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107. Probation is something we should fall more in love with and improve on.

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Mon Mar 2, 2015, 02:29 PM

Mar 2015

It is a wonderful yet basic system for monitoring and rehabilitating those who have caused harm to society in some way. Probation needs to be enhanced and more people need to be in some for of program(probation) than in jail. Sick of seeing so many non-violent people sleeping in jail.

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Can somebody explain to me.... and I have a degree in Justice Studies...what is probation about? [View all] sundevil2000 Feb 2015 OP

yep, that's what it's about, just another racket. notadmblnd Feb 2015 #1

Not just the money. Also the second-class citizen status. Cal Carpenter Feb 2015 #2

Amen. sundevil2000 Feb 2015 #15

State run or privatized? blueridge3210 Feb 2015 #3

county sundevil2000 Feb 2015 #6

Right. blueridge3210 Feb 2015 #10

do not leave out public prisons guillaumeb Feb 2015 #76

Right. blueridge3210 Feb 2015 #93

It is a way to monitor people after conviction... Evergreen Emerald Feb 2015 #4

Monitor? How? sundevil2000 Feb 2015 #5

Well for instance: Evergreen Emerald Feb 2015 #44

what? sundevil2000 Feb 2015 #56

Yeah... Evergreen Emerald Feb 2015 #60

and you missed my point as well sundevil2000 Feb 2015 #75

I don't think you understood the question, which was, "how is monitoring accomplished?" Scootaloo Feb 2015 #77

Probation is extremely helpful... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #7

Not in my case... sundevil2000 Feb 2015 #12

Would you rather be back in jail? HappyMe Feb 2015 #14

You dont even know what my offense was.... sundevil2000 Feb 2015 #17

Well, then complain. HappyMe Feb 2015 #19

what do I want? sundevil2000 Feb 2015 #25

Too bad. HappyMe Feb 2015 #26

wow sundevil2000 Feb 2015 #28

Wow what? HappyMe Feb 2015 #31

Feel sorry for me? Way passed that dude.... sundevil2000 Feb 2015 #35

Or it may be like a high school student complaining about pipoman Feb 2015 #50

Not. sundevil2000 Feb 2015 #53

lol...no, I think you have completely missed this point and several others in this thread... pipoman Feb 2015 #55

That's bullshit Cal Carpenter Feb 2015 #64

Good grief! HappyMe Feb 2015 #66

You said: Cal Carpenter Feb 2015 #68

If you read the whole thing, it seems to me HappyMe Feb 2015 #70

dont think its unfair at all sundevil2000 Feb 2015 #78

Sounds like an issue with your P.O. Everyone's situation and P.O. is different. haele Mar 2015 #108

No worries, we're on the same side. Cal Carpenter Feb 2015 #91

Good deal. HappyMe Feb 2015 #94

A waste of everybodies time JonLP24 Feb 2015 #71

You don't even have to go back that far JonLP24 Feb 2015 #67

Thank you and everyone else who sees clearly Tsiyu Feb 2015 #73

What was your offense?/NT DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #21

It's not about what is good for you. Codeine Feb 2015 #54

good answer sundevil2000 Feb 2015 #81

It shows that you have a minimum level of compliance with the terms of the court Gormy Cuss Feb 2015 #95

Did you get deferred prosecution? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #16

No. Got slammed in a podunk mid West town.... sundevil2000 Feb 2015 #18

If you fuck up, that's what happens. HappyMe Feb 2015 #23

transfer my probation sundevil2000 Feb 2015 #29

Are you posting on the right board? HappyMe Feb 2015 #33

I've only 4 months left.... sundevil2000 Feb 2015 #38

Well then, finish it off HappyMe Feb 2015 #41

Thanks Dad sundevil2000 Feb 2015 #43

I'm not your dad. HappyMe Feb 2015 #45

same difference sundevil2000 Feb 2015 #49

I didn't say anything that wasn't true. HappyMe Feb 2015 #51

No, but you certainly showed your true colors n/t Tsiyu Feb 2015 #72

How? HappyMe Feb 2015 #74

When your critical thinking skilz Tsiyu Feb 2015 #82

You offer nothing but smug HappyMe Feb 2015 #84

I'm the one being smug? Tsiyu Feb 2015 #90

Maybe you should talk to your lawyer? DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #34

I have a friend who got deferred prosecution in L A and did his "probation" in Miami DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2015 #24

So you have priors? Bobbie Jo Feb 2015 #62

I'm not going to answer that, cause too many people on this board sundevil2000 Feb 2015 #100

Cost containment and extended period supervision over the convicted leveymg Feb 2015 #8

Can you explain the "supervision" part? sundevil2000 Feb 2015 #13

What's your point? POs find violations of conditions of release all the time, resulting in leveymg Feb 2015 #22

They don't find them. sundevil2000 Feb 2015 #32

Is it "unsupervised probation"? JonLP24 Feb 2015 #36

Not in AZ right now, but sure wish I was! sundevil2000 Feb 2015 #42

Not sure where that it is JonLP24 Feb 2015 #59

I guess they dont teach things like that at ASU padfun Feb 2015 #9

nice.... sundevil2000 Feb 2015 #11

ASU padfun Feb 2015 #58

ASU has a better rep now.... sundevil2000 Feb 2015 #83

I know 538 has an excellent Parole article JonLP24 Feb 2015 #20

and that's bullshit... sundevil2000 Feb 2015 #27

Some states have a tiered supervision system blueridge3210 Feb 2015 #30

Full article is worth a read JonLP24 Feb 2015 #47

Discretion is a necessary component of the job blueridge3210 Feb 2015 #96

The person with long term experience dealing with the issues JonLP24 Feb 2015 #99

An option to keep a minimal eye on offenders... Oktober Feb 2015 #37

Waste of everybody's time and money. sundevil2000 Feb 2015 #39

Are you suggesting that there is no place.. Oktober Feb 2015 #40

Please explain this follow up.... sundevil2000 Feb 2015 #46

What's to explain? Oktober Feb 2015 #48

I deal with the punishment every day. sundevil2000 Feb 2015 #52

Why? Oktober Feb 2015 #57

I did commit the crime. sundevil2000 Feb 2015 #101

It helps you finish probation, Go Vols Mar 2015 #132

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It's better than jail treestar Feb 2015 #61

Did it ever occur to you Fla_Democrat Feb 2015 #63

lol! Yup. HappyMe Feb 2015 #65

just stop sundevil2000 Feb 2015 #85

How much value did the thread have to begin with? CreekDog Mar 2015 #106

i don't know sundevil2000 Mar 2015 #113

before I posted anything, you told the other poster their post didn't add anything to the thread CreekDog Mar 2015 #121

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Whatever? You should apologize to the first poster CreekDog Mar 2015 #126

thanks for your useless response sundevil2000 Feb 2015 #104

You're welcome Fla_Democrat Mar 2015 #115

Oh, so you can call a post "useless" but if someone questions the value of your post CreekDog Mar 2015 #134

For most cases, it's about the $$$$ Tsiyu Feb 2015 #69

It is very flawed & draconian JonLP24 Feb 2015 #79

It's applied arbitrarily Tsiyu Feb 2015 #88

Very JonLP24 Feb 2015 #97

Just takes one second in the wrong county Tsiyu Feb 2015 #98

Thank you. sundevil2000 Feb 2015 #87

It's an absolute waste of resources Tsiyu Feb 2015 #92

The idea is to provide an alternative to incarceration, allowing the person be productive/monitored. Shrike47 Feb 2015 #80

it is about continuing to punish people guillaumeb Feb 2015 #86

thanks sundevil2000 Feb 2015 #89

its about setting the conditions drray23 Feb 2015 #102

yep! ca$h! n/t wildbilln864 Feb 2015 #103

I think you pretty much got it right. malokvale77 Feb 2015 #105

Probation is something we should fall more in love with and improve on. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #107

To institutionalize people. RedCappedBandit Mar 2015 #109

What did you do? ismnotwasm Mar 2015 #110

Does the probation you're referring to have anything to do with this? CreekDog Mar 2015 #111

Nice catch. nt msanthrope Mar 2015 #114

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you only have 80-ish posts, it's under a minute to see all of them CreekDog Mar 2015 #120

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Great answer. CreekDog Mar 2015 #135

perhaps your PO is watching your boredom, impatience, fidgeting and yawning Kali Mar 2015 #112

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Here's what you should do Renew Deal Mar 2015 #118

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I find it funny that you are more upset about sitting in some guys office for an hour Renew Deal Mar 2015 #125

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You seem to be applying a personal peccadillo of your own parole office onto the system as a whole.. LanternWaste Mar 2015 #127

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Why do you think phil89 Mar 2015 #130

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After reading this entire thread, I still do not understand MineralMan Mar 2015 #119

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