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ProSense

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Tue May 1, 2012, 01:36 AM May 2012

Krugman debates Ron Paul [View all]

Don’t Know Much About (Ancient) History

The things I do for book sales. I debated, sort of, Ron Paul on Bloomberg.Video here. I thought we might have a discussion of why the runaway inflation he and his allies keep predicting keeps not happening. But no, he insisted (if I understood him correctly) that currency debasement and price controls destroyed the Roman Empire. I responded that I am not a defender of the economic policies of the Emperor Diocletian.

Actually, though, appeals to what supposedly happened somewhere in the distant past are quite common on the goldbug side of economics. And it’s kind of telling.

I mean, history is essential to economic analysis. You really do want to know, say, about the failure of Argentina’s convertibility law, of the effects of Chancellor Brüning’s dedication to the gold standard, and many other episodes.

Somehow, though, people like Ron Paul don’t like to talk about events of the past century, for which we have reasonably good data; they like to talk about events in the dim mists of history, where we don’t really know what happened. And I think that’s no accident. Partly it’s the attempt of the autodidact to show off his esoteric knowledge; but it’s also the fact that because we don’t really know what happened — what really did go down during the Diocletian era? — you can project what you think should have happened onto the sketchy record, then claim vindication for whatever you want to believe.

It’s funny, in a way — except that this sort of thinking dominates one of our two main political parties.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/30/dont-know-much-about-ancient-history/

Video: http://www.bloomberg.com/video/91689761/

Yikes!
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Krugman debates Ron Paul [View all] ProSense May 2012 OP
I think everybody is wrong. napoleon_in_rags May 2012 #1
That wasn't a debate... MrScorpio May 2012 #2
that's all he knows how to do... Blue_Tires May 2012 #29
Diocletian ended the crisis of the third century and let the Empire survive another century Recursion May 2012 #3
pwned joshcryer May 2012 #4
I might have Diocletian coinage. mmonk May 2012 #5
He just explained 80% of whatever Georege Will says too. JoePhilly May 2012 #6
debate politicaljunkie12 May 2012 #7
Do you support Ron Paul for president? cyberswede May 2012 #8
Ron Paul politicaljunkie12 May 2012 #10
I notice you don't say you're not anti-Obama Morning Dew May 2012 #11
or anti-obama politicaljunkie12 May 2012 #13
I guess you are stuck. Morning Dew May 2012 #14
Having An Unlimited Money Supply Is How We Pay for the Global Military Empire Yavin4 May 2012 #9
ballooning empire politicaljunkie12 May 2012 #15
Who spend locally? Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #16
Crickets. Ruby the Liberal May 2012 #24
... Son of Gob May 2012 #26
The Gold Standard was abandoned because it was a dismal failure and exacerbated the Depression Taitertots May 2012 #20
No Sane Person Will Argue for a Strict Return to the Gold Standard. However... Yavin4 May 2012 #23
But there are insane people who do, i.e. Ron Paul Taitertots May 2012 #25
Ofc the gold standard failed solely Dokkie May 2012 #28
I don't know how Krugman kept a straight face through TBF May 2012 #12
Read that too quick rufus dog May 2012 #17
Gotta feel sorry for Krugman gratuitous May 2012 #18
They're both in outer space. girl gone mad May 2012 #19
haha politicaljunkie12 May 2012 #21
I've heard Krugman say that austerity budgets (while they may reduce deficits) are bad pampango May 2012 #22
trash can HappyMe May 2012 #27
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