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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts) Fri Mar 6, 2015, 12:51 AM Mar 2015

Ok Practice Your Religion. But Keep Your DumbA Religion To Yourself. [View all]

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If I want to be saved I will come and ask for guidance. Otherwise people should keep their dumb ass religion to themselves. I do not care what your stone age god is all about. All I want is to be left alone. The churches should mind their own business and confess their sins and worship whatever tin god they want. As for the rest of us STFU.

Religions is a personal and private matter and should stay that way. The latest "religious freedom" frauds are just a way to discriminate using religion as a shield. As far as I am concerned I may start refusing to serve or help these radical Christians who want to make the country a theocracy. Sure way to start a cultural civil war. And secularists out number Christians.

These "religious freedom" laws are most un American and unpatriotic. What happens if Moslems decide they don't want to serve Christians in their businesses because of "conscience". Religious freedom conscience laws will balkanize society and lead to civil unrest in the end. And it will cost lives when "conscience trumps" medical treatment in dangerous situations.

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Ok Practice Your Religion. But Keep Your DumbA Religion To Yourself. [View all] TheMastersNemesis Mar 2015 OP

(IBTL) Did you encounter those people at DU? immoderate Mar 2015 #1

OK. practice your anti-religion but could you please CBGLuthier Mar 2015 #2

or in the Atheist & Agnostic group RussBLib Mar 2015 #53

They have twisted the 1st Amendment 'Separation Church and State' into ErikJ Mar 2015 #3

Where in the First Amendment YarnAddict Mar 2015 #25

LMGTFY... backscatter712 Mar 2015 #70

"Establishment" YarnAddict Mar 2015 #101

The Establishment Clause was what Jefferson was talking about... backscatter712 Mar 2015 #108

LOL I have NEVER seen that before NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #152

Go to http://lmgtfy.com/ backscatter712 Mar 2015 #160

thanks NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #163

like this NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #164

And what do you mean by that exactly? Do you think a young woman who is active pnwmom Mar 2015 #4

It certainly doesn't speak well for her intellectual capacity.... Oktober Mar 2015 #6

It has no bearing on her intellectual capacity, and shouldn't be a point against her. It's completely irrelevant. pnwmom Mar 2015 #7

So... Oktober Mar 2015 #8

Thaaaaaat would be a point not in their favor. Iggo Mar 2015 #24

I prefer to deal with reality, rather than some... stone space Mar 2015 #104

You don't have to jump threads... Oktober Mar 2015 #105

Why is my wife not worthy of respect? (nt) stone space Mar 2015 #107

She may be... I don't know her... Oktober Mar 2015 #111

Like how some folks who don't respect gays want to "cure" them? stone space Mar 2015 #113

Are you of the belief that being gay is a choice like religion is? Oktober Mar 2015 #114

Your bigotry seems a bit backwards for DU. (nt) stone space Mar 2015 #116

I think DU is ok with critical analysis... Oktober Mar 2015 #118

You aren't thinking critically nor logically. stone space Mar 2015 #120

I'll give you a free clue... Oktober Mar 2015 #123

How exactly does this work? stone space Mar 2015 #29

Do you mean the lack of religion? Oktober Mar 2015 #32

I'm an atheist. My wife is a Roman Catholic. stone space Mar 2015 #36

You are not superior... You merely don't have a specific failing... Neutral... Oktober Mar 2015 #43

Her religion is most certainly not an intellectual fault. stone space Mar 2015 #74

If her 'culture' told her that the crab people were keeping an eye on her... Oktober Mar 2015 #80

The bigotry that you express in this thread... stone space Mar 2015 #84

I admit it... Oktober Mar 2015 #88

Here's another Christian for you to judge. stone space Mar 2015 #93

An excellent example... Oktober Mar 2015 #98

I prefer to deal with reality, not... stone space Mar 2015 #99

You are so close... Oktober Mar 2015 #103

You don't have to tolerate anybody. stone space Mar 2015 #106

Challenge me all you like.... Oktober Mar 2015 #112

So if you think that the Republican agenda/philosophy is wrong and stupid, Arugula Latte Mar 2015 #91

Are you going so far as to express support for discrimination el_bryanto Mar 2015 #94

I was replying to a post calling criticism of religion "bigotry." Arugula Latte Mar 2015 #138

Except that the person making that argument made the argument above el_bryanto Mar 2015 #142

Or if her culture told her that national borders are real rather than make-believe LanternWaste Mar 2015 #139

Setting aside the fact.. Oktober Mar 2015 #144

Because truth comes from the barrel of a gun. stone space Mar 2015 #151

At least I can show that they exist... Oktober Mar 2015 #165

"Just what you are supposed to do..." Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #128

Says the folks... Oktober Mar 2015 #133

Who are these folks? Some COuncil of Cardinals or something? Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #135

Absolutely... Oktober Mar 2015 #141

How do you know what's in my self-interest? Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #145

You can advocate for the right to be a tool unto others... Oktober Mar 2015 #146

I'm not advocating. I wondering why it would be "wrong" particularly if Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #148

Not sure what you are going for... Oktober Mar 2015 #166

I Ws Raised Roman Catholic With 16 1/2 Years In Catholic Schools/That Does Not Bias Me In Public Are TheMastersNemesis Mar 2015 #46

depends on how fundie she is...first question would be- "how old do you think the earth is" snooper2 Mar 2015 #52

Yep. That for me is a full STOP. Do not pass GO. alphafemale Mar 2015 #109

I think the earth is 12 years old hfojvt Mar 2015 #157

A lot of people PRACTICE their religion... Ken Burch Mar 2015 #5

ITA about the "being saved" business. raccoon Mar 2015 #9

When they say they'll pray for you... haikugal Mar 2015 #11

How about when Mormons baptize posthumously? KansDem Mar 2015 #87

At least it isn't bothering the people being baptized Mariana Mar 2015 #96

I agree bring out religious nonsense in public it is fair game for anotojefiremnesuka Mar 2015 #10

"it is the busy bodies and in your face religious types that are a problem." Jamastiene Mar 2015 #58

Agree! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2015 #61

Fair enough. nt. Mc Mike Mar 2015 #12

Religionn is like a penis. It's OK to have one, even to be proud of it. But don't .... Scuba Mar 2015 #13

LOL! Fantastic way to phrase it! peacebird Mar 2015 #55

And there are some big dicks in religion! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2015 #63

Ooooh! 2naSalit Mar 2015 #68

Your two quips are both spot-on. Scuba Mar 2015 #169

They usually do the trick! 2naSalit Mar 2015 #172

Careful, they'll be screaming persecution if they can't pound you with their bible. B Calm Mar 2015 #14

this works both ways . . . right? DrDan Mar 2015 #15

Can you show me any secular people who are seeking the right to refuse service to the religious? Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #21

I was referring to the "But Keep Your DumbA Religion To Yourself" statement DrDan Mar 2015 #22

So of course you admit that LGBT groups do not travel the world seeking to limit religious freedoms Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #28

you are reading waaaaay too much in my posts . . . . but you knew that DrDan Mar 2015 #35

Actually I have no idea what you really mean, your posts are a bit passive aggressive and vague. Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #54

You are the one agressively promoting your religious bigotry here. (nt) stone space Mar 2015 #82

I'm sorry that you have atheists knocking on your doors and people standing up Arugula Latte Mar 2015 #86

in a free and democratic society a person has a right to be openly public about their religion or Douglas Carpenter Mar 2015 #16

Shout your religion from the mountaintop all you want. hobbit709 Mar 2015 #17

So much this, hobbit! hifiguy Mar 2015 #159

I'm not fond of the comparison of sexual orientation or other inborn characteristics to 'pet issues' Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #26

People don't always discard their culture. stone space Mar 2015 #33

That's nice. I did not say people 'always' do this, nor that I expect them to. I also did not speak Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #38

Religion is part of culture. A part of ones identity. stone space Mar 2015 #39

Religon is an aspect of some cultures, other cultures are not religious at all, some religions are Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #51

Seriously? stone space Mar 2015 #75

Race is not immutable. stone space Mar 2015 #77

Some of these folks will not be satisfied until... Adrahil Mar 2015 #18

"What happens if Moslems decide they don't want to serve Christians in their businesses" Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #19

What happens if some white people decide they want an all white lunch counter? I think I saw a Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #23

Define "permissable." Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #40

You failed to address my questions. Don't blame you, as you seem to be defending segregated Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #44

It's not a matter of thinking they should be allowed. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #48

The OP is opposed to the legislation sought by religious groups to allow them to discriminate Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #59

Do you want someone to treat you as an equal Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #79

But that's not gonna happen anytime soon. That's why we need laws to azmom Mar 2015 #121

"You're talking about changing hearts and minds, like that went really well in Iraq." Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #126

And that is why laws are needed. azmom Mar 2015 #129

To impose eliminationist policies? I'm not sure what you're saying. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #132

Holy shit. Big freaking Whoop? azmom Mar 2015 #125

Only if you choose to take it out of context. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #131

I don't know what you just said, but I alerted on your post. azmom Mar 2015 #134

Really? Does that sentence even make sense in your head? el_bryanto Mar 2015 #136

And I believe you that you alerted without understanding. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #137

FYI Alert: Jury Voted to Leave It. Divernan Mar 2015 #143

Thank-you. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #147

We're all grateful Juror # 3 is NOT on the mirt team! Divernan Mar 2015 #149

So was giving women the right to vote also a big freaking whoop to you? azmom Mar 2015 #154

If, by your own admission, you don't understand what it is I am saying then why Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #156

I alerted on your big freakin whoop comment. azmom Mar 2015 #150

You're only seeing half the statement. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #153

They will always exist. So what's your point? azmom Mar 2015 #155

Would you ever willing spend money at a bigot's establishment? Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #158

So we keep the CRA and we don't worry about the bigots, we just don't azmom Mar 2015 #161

I like your plan. But how are we going to azmom Mar 2015 #168

"How do we know who they are?" Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #171

Yep. 99Forever Mar 2015 #20

That is one thing that I hated when living in the hood. azmom Mar 2015 #27

They don't knock in my area... Oktober Mar 2015 #45

You are so lucky. Summertime was the worse time. azmom Mar 2015 #83

I'm the one who wants them to come... Oktober Mar 2015 #90

LOL. I was just a kid back then so I would just listen to them and take their literature. azmom Mar 2015 #97

I have to play nice with the missionaries in Africa for work... Oktober Mar 2015 #100

Had one of those outside the CVS last week. Iggo Mar 2015 #117

Now that I live in Arizona, I hear have a blessed day. azmom Mar 2015 #124

No mythical being is coming to save you, you are the responsible one to save your own self. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2015 #30

+1 FLPanhandle Mar 2015 #56

Well said!!! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2015 #67

Religious freedom laws are a cynical play, and that some DUers would like to el_bryanto Mar 2015 #31

Religion is a choice. Anyone from a missionary faith knows that faiths are chosen, missionaries seek Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #34

Yep - that's the argument. Thanks for presenting it. el_bryanto Mar 2015 #37

It is currently illegal in the US to discriminate on the basis of religion, as you know. Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #41

Where did I say that religion is an inborn characteristic? el_bryanto Mar 2015 #42

You equated religion to race and sexual orientation and proceeded to claim secular people are Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #47

So I didn't claim that religion is an inborn characteristic? el_bryanto Mar 2015 #50

Race is not an immutable or inborn characteristic. stone space Mar 2015 #78

My thoughts exactly. backscatter712 Mar 2015 #49

Religion! More politics IMO - power, control, money, and usually dominate male authority figures.n/t RKP5637 Mar 2015 #60

Or to quote from Seneca the Younger... backscatter712 Mar 2015 #62

Particularly the last one, "rulers as useful!" A powerful tool in controlling and exploiting RKP5637 Mar 2015 #64

"Dominant male authority figures" Arugula Latte Mar 2015 #89

It's an "Old Boy's Club" if there ever was one. I'm amazed women put up with the pompous and pious RKP5637 Mar 2015 #110

Patriarchal religion. Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2015 #167

Does the "A" in LGBTQIA Stand for Asexual? RedstDem Mar 2015 #71

Yes, exactly! backscatter712 Mar 2015 #72

If only they would Jamastiene Mar 2015 #57

you're damn right RedstDem Mar 2015 #65

Keep your dumb ass sky-spooks to your self rusty fender Mar 2015 #66

I always liked the term "Skydaddy" backscatter712 Mar 2015 #69

keep your dumbA anti-religion to yourself too. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #73

^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^ stone space Mar 2015 #85

The subject never really comes up Warpy Mar 2015 #170

Amen, brother. Iggo Mar 2015 #76

Very well said.... giftedgirl77 Mar 2015 #81

Religion is like war. It doesn't work unless you're dumping it on someone else. nt valerief Mar 2015 #92

Much to the consternation of the warmakers. stone space Mar 2015 #95

I'll take 'Things I Bet You Wouldn't Have Said to MLK's Face' for $1000, Alex. nt Dreamer Tatum Mar 2015 #102

LOL! stone space Mar 2015 #115

That s fine but by the same token keep your atheism or unbelief to yourself as well. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #119

And apply it equally to the dumbass shit that Native Americans, WIccans, and New Agers profess. nt Dreamer Tatum Mar 2015 #122

A timely article which I found useful. Skidmore Mar 2015 #127

That article is well worth reading. nt el_bryanto Mar 2015 #130

I just purchased the book it was excerpted from. Skidmore Mar 2015 #140

Believe whatever idiot Iron Age fairytales you want to hifiguy Mar 2015 #162

Locking this. It's better suited for the.. one_voice Mar 2015 #173