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15. this works both ways . . . right?

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Fri Mar 6, 2015, 08:00 AM

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Ok Practice Your Religion. But Keep Your DumbA Religion To Yourself. [View all] TheMastersNemesis Mar 2015 OP

(IBTL) Did you encounter those people at DU? immoderate Mar 2015 #1

OK. practice your anti-religion but could you please CBGLuthier Mar 2015 #2

or in the Atheist & Agnostic group RussBLib Mar 2015 #53

They have twisted the 1st Amendment 'Separation Church and State' into ErikJ Mar 2015 #3

Where in the First Amendment YarnAddict Mar 2015 #25

LMGTFY... backscatter712 Mar 2015 #70

"Establishment" YarnAddict Mar 2015 #101

The Establishment Clause was what Jefferson was talking about... backscatter712 Mar 2015 #108

LOL I have NEVER seen that before NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #152

Go to http://lmgtfy.com/ backscatter712 Mar 2015 #160

thanks NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #163

like this NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #164

And what do you mean by that exactly? Do you think a young woman who is active pnwmom Mar 2015 #4

It certainly doesn't speak well for her intellectual capacity.... Oktober Mar 2015 #6

It has no bearing on her intellectual capacity, and shouldn't be a point against her. It's completely irrelevant. pnwmom Mar 2015 #7

So... Oktober Mar 2015 #8

Thaaaaaat would be a point not in their favor. Iggo Mar 2015 #24

I prefer to deal with reality, rather than some... stone space Mar 2015 #104

You don't have to jump threads... Oktober Mar 2015 #105

Why is my wife not worthy of respect? (nt) stone space Mar 2015 #107

She may be... I don't know her... Oktober Mar 2015 #111

Like how some folks who don't respect gays want to "cure" them? stone space Mar 2015 #113

Are you of the belief that being gay is a choice like religion is? Oktober Mar 2015 #114

Your bigotry seems a bit backwards for DU. (nt) stone space Mar 2015 #116

I think DU is ok with critical analysis... Oktober Mar 2015 #118

You aren't thinking critically nor logically. stone space Mar 2015 #120

I'll give you a free clue... Oktober Mar 2015 #123

How exactly does this work? stone space Mar 2015 #29

Do you mean the lack of religion? Oktober Mar 2015 #32

I'm an atheist. My wife is a Roman Catholic. stone space Mar 2015 #36

You are not superior... You merely don't have a specific failing... Neutral... Oktober Mar 2015 #43

Her religion is most certainly not an intellectual fault. stone space Mar 2015 #74

If her 'culture' told her that the crab people were keeping an eye on her... Oktober Mar 2015 #80

The bigotry that you express in this thread... stone space Mar 2015 #84

I admit it... Oktober Mar 2015 #88

Here's another Christian for you to judge. stone space Mar 2015 #93

An excellent example... Oktober Mar 2015 #98

I prefer to deal with reality, not... stone space Mar 2015 #99

You are so close... Oktober Mar 2015 #103

You don't have to tolerate anybody. stone space Mar 2015 #106

Challenge me all you like.... Oktober Mar 2015 #112

So if you think that the Republican agenda/philosophy is wrong and stupid, Arugula Latte Mar 2015 #91

Are you going so far as to express support for discrimination el_bryanto Mar 2015 #94

I was replying to a post calling criticism of religion "bigotry." Arugula Latte Mar 2015 #138

Except that the person making that argument made the argument above el_bryanto Mar 2015 #142

Or if her culture told her that national borders are real rather than make-believe LanternWaste Mar 2015 #139

Setting aside the fact.. Oktober Mar 2015 #144

Because truth comes from the barrel of a gun. stone space Mar 2015 #151

At least I can show that they exist... Oktober Mar 2015 #165

"Just what you are supposed to do..." Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #128

Says the folks... Oktober Mar 2015 #133

Who are these folks? Some COuncil of Cardinals or something? Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #135

Absolutely... Oktober Mar 2015 #141

How do you know what's in my self-interest? Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #145

You can advocate for the right to be a tool unto others... Oktober Mar 2015 #146

I'm not advocating. I wondering why it would be "wrong" particularly if Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #148

Not sure what you are going for... Oktober Mar 2015 #166

I Ws Raised Roman Catholic With 16 1/2 Years In Catholic Schools/That Does Not Bias Me In Public Are TheMastersNemesis Mar 2015 #46

depends on how fundie she is...first question would be- "how old do you think the earth is" snooper2 Mar 2015 #52

Yep. That for me is a full STOP. Do not pass GO. alphafemale Mar 2015 #109

I think the earth is 12 years old hfojvt Mar 2015 #157

A lot of people PRACTICE their religion... Ken Burch Mar 2015 #5

ITA about the "being saved" business. raccoon Mar 2015 #9

When they say they'll pray for you... haikugal Mar 2015 #11

How about when Mormons baptize posthumously? KansDem Mar 2015 #87

At least it isn't bothering the people being baptized Mariana Mar 2015 #96

I agree bring out religious nonsense in public it is fair game for anotojefiremnesuka Mar 2015 #10

"it is the busy bodies and in your face religious types that are a problem." Jamastiene Mar 2015 #58

Agree! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2015 #61

Fair enough. nt. Mc Mike Mar 2015 #12

Religionn is like a penis. It's OK to have one, even to be proud of it. But don't .... Scuba Mar 2015 #13

LOL! Fantastic way to phrase it! peacebird Mar 2015 #55

And there are some big dicks in religion! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2015 #63

Ooooh! 2naSalit Mar 2015 #68

Your two quips are both spot-on. Scuba Mar 2015 #169

They usually do the trick! 2naSalit Mar 2015 #172

Careful, they'll be screaming persecution if they can't pound you with their bible. B Calm Mar 2015 #14

this works both ways . . . right? DrDan Mar 2015 #15

Can you show me any secular people who are seeking the right to refuse service to the religious? Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #21

I was referring to the "But Keep Your DumbA Religion To Yourself" statement DrDan Mar 2015 #22

So of course you admit that LGBT groups do not travel the world seeking to limit religious freedoms Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #28

you are reading waaaaay too much in my posts . . . . but you knew that DrDan Mar 2015 #35

Actually I have no idea what you really mean, your posts are a bit passive aggressive and vague. Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #54

You are the one agressively promoting your religious bigotry here. (nt) stone space Mar 2015 #82

I'm sorry that you have atheists knocking on your doors and people standing up Arugula Latte Mar 2015 #86

in a free and democratic society a person has a right to be openly public about their religion or Douglas Carpenter Mar 2015 #16

Shout your religion from the mountaintop all you want. hobbit709 Mar 2015 #17

So much this, hobbit! hifiguy Mar 2015 #159

I'm not fond of the comparison of sexual orientation or other inborn characteristics to 'pet issues' Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #26

People don't always discard their culture. stone space Mar 2015 #33

That's nice. I did not say people 'always' do this, nor that I expect them to. I also did not speak Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #38

Religion is part of culture. A part of ones identity. stone space Mar 2015 #39

Religon is an aspect of some cultures, other cultures are not religious at all, some religions are Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #51

Seriously? stone space Mar 2015 #75

Race is not immutable. stone space Mar 2015 #77

Some of these folks will not be satisfied until... Adrahil Mar 2015 #18

"What happens if Moslems decide they don't want to serve Christians in their businesses" Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #19

What happens if some white people decide they want an all white lunch counter? I think I saw a Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #23

Define "permissable." Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #40

You failed to address my questions. Don't blame you, as you seem to be defending segregated Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #44

It's not a matter of thinking they should be allowed. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #48

The OP is opposed to the legislation sought by religious groups to allow them to discriminate Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #59

Do you want someone to treat you as an equal Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #79

But that's not gonna happen anytime soon. That's why we need laws to azmom Mar 2015 #121

"You're talking about changing hearts and minds, like that went really well in Iraq." Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #126

And that is why laws are needed. azmom Mar 2015 #129

To impose eliminationist policies? I'm not sure what you're saying. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #132

Holy shit. Big freaking Whoop? azmom Mar 2015 #125

Only if you choose to take it out of context. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #131

I don't know what you just said, but I alerted on your post. azmom Mar 2015 #134

Really? Does that sentence even make sense in your head? el_bryanto Mar 2015 #136

And I believe you that you alerted without understanding. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #137

FYI Alert: Jury Voted to Leave It. Divernan Mar 2015 #143

Thank-you. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #147

We're all grateful Juror # 3 is NOT on the mirt team! Divernan Mar 2015 #149

So was giving women the right to vote also a big freaking whoop to you? azmom Mar 2015 #154

If, by your own admission, you don't understand what it is I am saying then why Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #156

I alerted on your big freakin whoop comment. azmom Mar 2015 #150

You're only seeing half the statement. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #153

They will always exist. So what's your point? azmom Mar 2015 #155

Would you ever willing spend money at a bigot's establishment? Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #158

So we keep the CRA and we don't worry about the bigots, we just don't azmom Mar 2015 #161

I like your plan. But how are we going to azmom Mar 2015 #168

"How do we know who they are?" Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2015 #171

Yep. 99Forever Mar 2015 #20

That is one thing that I hated when living in the hood. azmom Mar 2015 #27

They don't knock in my area... Oktober Mar 2015 #45

You are so lucky. Summertime was the worse time. azmom Mar 2015 #83

I'm the one who wants them to come... Oktober Mar 2015 #90

LOL. I was just a kid back then so I would just listen to them and take their literature. azmom Mar 2015 #97

I have to play nice with the missionaries in Africa for work... Oktober Mar 2015 #100

Had one of those outside the CVS last week. Iggo Mar 2015 #117

Now that I live in Arizona, I hear have a blessed day. azmom Mar 2015 #124

No mythical being is coming to save you, you are the responsible one to save your own self. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2015 #30

+1 FLPanhandle Mar 2015 #56

Well said!!! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2015 #67

Religious freedom laws are a cynical play, and that some DUers would like to el_bryanto Mar 2015 #31

Religion is a choice. Anyone from a missionary faith knows that faiths are chosen, missionaries seek Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #34

Yep - that's the argument. Thanks for presenting it. el_bryanto Mar 2015 #37

It is currently illegal in the US to discriminate on the basis of religion, as you know. Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #41

Where did I say that religion is an inborn characteristic? el_bryanto Mar 2015 #42

You equated religion to race and sexual orientation and proceeded to claim secular people are Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #47

So I didn't claim that religion is an inborn characteristic? el_bryanto Mar 2015 #50

Race is not an immutable or inborn characteristic. stone space Mar 2015 #78

My thoughts exactly. backscatter712 Mar 2015 #49

Religion! More politics IMO - power, control, money, and usually dominate male authority figures.n/t RKP5637 Mar 2015 #60

Or to quote from Seneca the Younger... backscatter712 Mar 2015 #62

Particularly the last one, "rulers as useful!" A powerful tool in controlling and exploiting RKP5637 Mar 2015 #64

"Dominant male authority figures" Arugula Latte Mar 2015 #89

It's an "Old Boy's Club" if there ever was one. I'm amazed women put up with the pompous and pious RKP5637 Mar 2015 #110

Patriarchal religion. Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2015 #167

Does the "A" in LGBTQIA Stand for Asexual? RedstDem Mar 2015 #71

Yes, exactly! backscatter712 Mar 2015 #72

If only they would Jamastiene Mar 2015 #57

you're damn right RedstDem Mar 2015 #65

Keep your dumb ass sky-spooks to your self rusty fender Mar 2015 #66

I always liked the term "Skydaddy" backscatter712 Mar 2015 #69

keep your dumbA anti-religion to yourself too. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #73

^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^ stone space Mar 2015 #85

The subject never really comes up Warpy Mar 2015 #170

Amen, brother. Iggo Mar 2015 #76

Very well said.... giftedgirl77 Mar 2015 #81

Religion is like war. It doesn't work unless you're dumping it on someone else. nt valerief Mar 2015 #92

Much to the consternation of the warmakers. stone space Mar 2015 #95

I'll take 'Things I Bet You Wouldn't Have Said to MLK's Face' for $1000, Alex. nt Dreamer Tatum Mar 2015 #102

LOL! stone space Mar 2015 #115

That s fine but by the same token keep your atheism or unbelief to yourself as well. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #119

And apply it equally to the dumbass shit that Native Americans, WIccans, and New Agers profess. nt Dreamer Tatum Mar 2015 #122

A timely article which I found useful. Skidmore Mar 2015 #127

That article is well worth reading. nt el_bryanto Mar 2015 #130

I just purchased the book it was excerpted from. Skidmore Mar 2015 #140

Believe whatever idiot Iron Age fairytales you want to hifiguy Mar 2015 #162

Locking this. It's better suited for the.. one_voice Mar 2015 #173