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HereSince1628

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19. This really seems to go in circles doesn't it?
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 11:37 AM
Mar 2015

Now you are saying just what I said Selective service registration has done nothing to prevent the last 5 Presidents from participating in or creating wars.

Selective service requires all men 18 and older to register. You can't have a deferment unless you register. So deferments aren't really the issue unless there is mobilization and conscription becomes real.

We have evidence conscription causes opposition to war. Conscription was enormously unpopular due to the ridiculously long and irrational anti-commie, fear of dominoes falling, Vietnam war.

REAL conscription results in opposition to pointless conflicts.

Registration as evidenced by decades of history does nothing to create widespread durable opposition to stupid conflicts.

On edit: The size of the American military and it's impact on the US budget is in large part a legacy of post WWII conscription. We created a large standing military filled it under coercive influence of conscription, and the American citizenry got accustomed to it's existence, cost to support, and use in interventions throughout the much of the northern hemisphere.

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This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Mar 2015 #1
+1000 SickOfTheOnePct Mar 2015 #4
I thought the best way to get people to consider war seriously is to have a draft again - hollysmom Mar 2015 #2
+1 daleanime Mar 2015 #3
The only way to make it fair is to enormously expand the military hack89 Mar 2015 #9
Does that count the privatize jobs in the military? There are a lot of what happens in a war now jwirr Mar 2015 #22
Yes. hack89 Mar 2015 #28
Thank you. jwirr Mar 2015 #29
No problem. Nt hack89 Mar 2015 #30
Couldn't disagree more. 99Forever Mar 2015 #5
How do you make it fair? hack89 Mar 2015 #10
A standing military is a terrible temptation HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #11
Is there some part of NO exceptions you don't understand? 99Forever Mar 2015 #12
I understand perfectly, what you don't get is IT IS UNLIKELY to the point of impossibility HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #13
Who said anything about a "standing army" besides you? 99Forever Mar 2015 #14
It's possible I'm conflating under the influence of other conscription threads HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #17
In case you haven't noticed... 99Forever Mar 2015 #18
This really seems to go in circles doesn't it? HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #19
Yes it does. 99Forever Mar 2015 #26
The current military was largely filled by jingoistic patriotism after 911, of course the economic HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #27
absolutely. if for no other reason, to take away the whine from men how UNFAIR life is seabeyond Mar 2015 #6
I would think that having sons would be enough reason to support the idea. n/t lumberjack_jeff Mar 2015 #15
hence... IF FOR NO OTHER REASON. there are lots of reasons i state consistently, to get rid of. seabeyond Mar 2015 #16
Men are whining about it? I never noticed that. elias49 Mar 2015 #20
no, not everything does. this does. you do not hear it? you are not listening. seabeyond Mar 2015 #21
I'll take your word for it. But, seriously, I don't. elias49 Mar 2015 #23
what a hoot of a post. take my word for it, not really, women are more sexist than men. seabeyond Mar 2015 #25
Okay. LWolf Mar 2015 #7
What is the annual cost of maintaining the selective service system as is? Kaleva Mar 2015 #8
Congrats on 50 posts! bigwillq Mar 2015 #24
skin in the game mikehiggins Mar 2015 #31
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