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HereSince1628

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27. The current military was largely filled by jingoistic patriotism after 911, of course the economic
Sun Mar 8, 2015, 12:33 PM
Mar 2015

environment for young men contributes to availability and choice to volunteer, which is certainly why so many of the people in the Army during my time were from places of poverty...but I think it's a package deal. Complex contexts facing similar black and white problem of accepting being conscripted/volunteering to avoid being drafted or defying the law. Defiance is tougher without financial support.

The dream of putting primarily rich kids of legislators on the ground first is just a dream. Those are kids who might show up later by volunteering or being drafted, but they are also kids most likely to be college.

The military wants officers to be college educated.

That was true during Vietnam as it is now. Expansion of the force, and shorter life expectancies of low ranking company grade officers back then required many OCS trained officers to meet the demand. But college educations were desired and if a officer didn't get one, he was usually mustered out before making field grade.

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This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Mar 2015 #1
+1000 SickOfTheOnePct Mar 2015 #4
I thought the best way to get people to consider war seriously is to have a draft again - hollysmom Mar 2015 #2
+1 daleanime Mar 2015 #3
The only way to make it fair is to enormously expand the military hack89 Mar 2015 #9
Does that count the privatize jobs in the military? There are a lot of what happens in a war now jwirr Mar 2015 #22
Yes. hack89 Mar 2015 #28
Thank you. jwirr Mar 2015 #29
No problem. Nt hack89 Mar 2015 #30
Couldn't disagree more. 99Forever Mar 2015 #5
How do you make it fair? hack89 Mar 2015 #10
A standing military is a terrible temptation HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #11
Is there some part of NO exceptions you don't understand? 99Forever Mar 2015 #12
I understand perfectly, what you don't get is IT IS UNLIKELY to the point of impossibility HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #13
Who said anything about a "standing army" besides you? 99Forever Mar 2015 #14
It's possible I'm conflating under the influence of other conscription threads HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #17
In case you haven't noticed... 99Forever Mar 2015 #18
This really seems to go in circles doesn't it? HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #19
Yes it does. 99Forever Mar 2015 #26
The current military was largely filled by jingoistic patriotism after 911, of course the economic HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #27
absolutely. if for no other reason, to take away the whine from men how UNFAIR life is seabeyond Mar 2015 #6
I would think that having sons would be enough reason to support the idea. n/t lumberjack_jeff Mar 2015 #15
hence... IF FOR NO OTHER REASON. there are lots of reasons i state consistently, to get rid of. seabeyond Mar 2015 #16
Men are whining about it? I never noticed that. elias49 Mar 2015 #20
no, not everything does. this does. you do not hear it? you are not listening. seabeyond Mar 2015 #21
I'll take your word for it. But, seriously, I don't. elias49 Mar 2015 #23
what a hoot of a post. take my word for it, not really, women are more sexist than men. seabeyond Mar 2015 #25
Okay. LWolf Mar 2015 #7
What is the annual cost of maintaining the selective service system as is? Kaleva Mar 2015 #8
Congrats on 50 posts! bigwillq Mar 2015 #24
skin in the game mikehiggins Mar 2015 #31
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