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leveymg

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Sat Mar 21, 2015, 04:37 PM Mar 2015

Last August, HRC used exactly the same words as Bibi to justify his No Two-State stand. [View all]

Netanyahu:

“There cannot be a situation, under any agreement, in which we relinquish security control of the territory west of the Jordan River.”

- Benjamin Netanyahu, Press Conference, July 11, 2014, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/18/benjamin-netanyahu-palest_n_5598997.html


HRC: “If I were the prime minister of Israel, you’re damn right I would expect to have control over security
,” Clinton said of the West Bank, citing the need to “protect Israel from the influx of Hamas or cross-border attacks from anywhere else.” - Interview with Jeffrey Goldberg, The Atlantic, Aug 10 2014,
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/08/hillary-clinton-failure-to-help-syrian-rebels-led-to-the-rise-of-isis/375832/

Full excerpt:

Clinton also seemed to take an indirect shot at administration critics of Netanyahu, who has argued that the rise of Muslim fundamentalism in the Middle East means that Israel cannot, in the foreseeable future, withdraw its forces from much of the West Bank. “If I were the prime minister of Israel, you’re damn right I would expect to have control over security, because even if I’m dealing with [Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud] Abbas, who is 79 years old, and other members of Fatah, who are enjoying a better lifestyle and making money on all kinds of things, that does not protect Israel from the influx of Hamas or cross-border attacks from anywhere else. With Syria and Iraq, it is all one big threat. So Netanyahu could not do this in good conscience.”
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So, are they right or wrong? Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #1
Regardless. Nobody seems particularly surprised that HRC is running with Bibi against Obama leveymg Mar 2015 #4
Now how did you vome to this conclusion from these statements. Maybe it is Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #6
He was the first to say by a few days, so I'll give him credit. leveymg Mar 2015 #7
Would you ever believe as SOS and Bibi would have gotten into a discussion before or just Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #9
What I believe isn't really important. What's clear is that she supports Bibi and is against Obama leveymg Mar 2015 #11
You don't have anything to support your thoughts and if it was in the pastshe did not attend the Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #19
I disagree with your spin on this. The plain-language of both statements is virtually identical. leveymg Mar 2015 #26
Good, you dont accept my spin, gotcha ya, doesnt make me wrong and I dont accept your spin. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #28
Let's hit that ball across the net another few times. leveymg Mar 2015 #30
Hillary will be much more supportive of Nuttyahu than Obama cali Mar 2015 #2
I want a President who passionately defends our country awake Mar 2015 #3
supporting Israel no matter what is NOT in the best interests of either Israel or the U.S. cali Mar 2015 #5
Psst Aerows Mar 2015 #10
Hillary was in DC on the Netanyahu speech day and was encouraged to attend Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #8
That would have put her in a position where she might be expected to comment. So she didn't attend. leveymg Mar 2015 #12
She still had the right to comment. Just pointing out she did not, perhaps in step with Obama. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #16
Her comment, in fact, was issued to Goldberg a month after Bibi's pronouncement. leveymg Mar 2015 #29
I see what you are saying, I disagree with your spin. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #31
Back at you. Spin away. leveymg Mar 2015 #32
here is more information Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #34
Thnak you for that. It provides context about collapse of talks over continued settlement leveymg Mar 2015 #36
Yes about a two state solution which has been Obama's agenda since he has been president, Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #37
Not the same at all, but word games are always fun distractions. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #13
you're an amazing mental contortionist when it comes to Hillary. cali Mar 2015 #14
That is why I will not vote for her ann--- Mar 2015 #15
Are you voting for the GOP? Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #17
No ann--- Mar 2015 #39
Eh, that is the two-state position. This is from 2014, it was a couple of weeks ago when comments Chathamization Mar 2015 #18
I didn't read any reference to "no Palestinian military" in that leveymg Mar 2015 #20
"non-militarized state" from the article. The Palestinian "state" not being allowed to have a Chathamization Mar 2015 #21
If you read the Atlantic intw, HRC is taking an even more hardline leveymg Mar 2015 #22
But like I said, that wasn't even considred opposition to two-states; last year, Netanyahu was Chathamization Mar 2015 #24
Please provide a link to Netanyahu's 2014 statement you reference. leveymg Mar 2015 #25
Thanks. The transcript shows Clinton in favor of a two-state solution, take a position that seems to Chathamization Mar 2015 #33
Actually, that excerpt shows that Bibi moved HRC's position in the end. leveymg Mar 2015 #35
No. That excerpt (which includes the quote from your OP) is from the 2014 interview. Hillary is Chathamization Mar 2015 #38
This whole dispute about a two state sadoldgirl Mar 2015 #23
Sadly, in the end, you may be right. Israel may never permit a Palestinian state leveymg Mar 2015 #27
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