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21. "non-militarized state" from the article. The Palestinian "state" not being allowed to have a

Reply to leveymg (Reply #20)

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 10:13 PM

Mar 2015

military has been an ongoing Israeli demand (amongst others). A fully sovereign state has never been on the table.

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Last August, HRC used exactly the same words as Bibi to justify his No Two-State stand. [View all] leveymg Mar 2015 OP

So, are they right or wrong? Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #1

Regardless. Nobody seems particularly surprised that HRC is running with Bibi against Obama leveymg Mar 2015 #4

Now how did you vome to this conclusion from these statements. Maybe it is Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #6

He was the first to say by a few days, so I'll give him credit. leveymg Mar 2015 #7

Would you ever believe as SOS and Bibi would have gotten into a discussion before or just Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #9

What I believe isn't really important. What's clear is that she supports Bibi and is against Obama leveymg Mar 2015 #11

You don't have anything to support your thoughts and if it was in the pastshe did not attend the Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #19

I disagree with your spin on this. The plain-language of both statements is virtually identical. leveymg Mar 2015 #26

Good, you dont accept my spin, gotcha ya, doesnt make me wrong and I dont accept your spin. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #28

Let's hit that ball across the net another few times. leveymg Mar 2015 #30

Hillary will be much more supportive of Nuttyahu than Obama cali Mar 2015 #2

I want a President who passionately defends our country awake Mar 2015 #3

supporting Israel no matter what is NOT in the best interests of either Israel or the U.S. cali Mar 2015 #5

Psst Aerows Mar 2015 #10

Hillary was in DC on the Netanyahu speech day and was encouraged to attend Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #8

That would have put her in a position where she might be expected to comment. So she didn't attend. leveymg Mar 2015 #12

She still had the right to comment. Just pointing out she did not, perhaps in step with Obama. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #16

Her comment, in fact, was issued to Goldberg a month after Bibi's pronouncement. leveymg Mar 2015 #29

I see what you are saying, I disagree with your spin. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #31

Back at you. Spin away. leveymg Mar 2015 #32

here is more information Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #34

Thnak you for that. It provides context about collapse of talks over continued settlement leveymg Mar 2015 #36

Yes about a two state solution which has been Obama's agenda since he has been president, Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #37

Not the same at all, but word games are always fun distractions. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #13

you're an amazing mental contortionist when it comes to Hillary. cali Mar 2015 #14

That is why I will not vote for her ann--- Mar 2015 #15

Are you voting for the GOP? Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #17

No ann--- Mar 2015 #39

Eh, that is the two-state position. This is from 2014, it was a couple of weeks ago when comments Chathamization Mar 2015 #18

I didn't read any reference to "no Palestinian military" in that leveymg Mar 2015 #20

"non-militarized state" from the article. The Palestinian "state" not being allowed to have a Chathamization Mar 2015 #21

If you read the Atlantic intw, HRC is taking an even more hardline leveymg Mar 2015 #22

But like I said, that wasn't even considred opposition to two-states; last year, Netanyahu was Chathamization Mar 2015 #24

Please provide a link to Netanyahu's 2014 statement you reference. leveymg Mar 2015 #25

Thanks. The transcript shows Clinton in favor of a two-state solution, take a position that seems to Chathamization Mar 2015 #33

Actually, that excerpt shows that Bibi moved HRC's position in the end. leveymg Mar 2015 #35

No. That excerpt (which includes the quote from your OP) is from the 2014 interview. Hillary is Chathamization Mar 2015 #38

This whole dispute about a two state sadoldgirl Mar 2015 #23

Sadly, in the end, you may be right. Israel may never permit a Palestinian state leveymg Mar 2015 #27