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bettyellen

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51. HA HA, just like it's women's fault less men are going to college these days. Women can't make any
Sun Mar 22, 2015, 10:12 PM
Mar 2015

gains without the resentment of some men, it seems. Too fucking bad for them. They use the same line of reasoning to keep POC in line- wait on the back of the bus till ALL are lifted. And that meas men first!

Women of all classes are pushing for more opportunities and fairer pay- and they damned well deserve it after centuries of being treated as second class citizens. It's bullshit to make excuses to set aside their concerns- and not progressive in the least.
Done here.

Why are women poor? Warpy Mar 2015 #1
TY! freshwest Mar 2015 #2
Welcome. sheshe2 Mar 2015 #3
first four reasons from the article Liberal_in_LA Mar 2015 #4
Yes! sheshe2 Mar 2015 #5
K&R! smirkymonkey Mar 2015 #6
So it would be better if poverty were more equal opportunity, is that the idea? How about just ND-Dem Mar 2015 #7
Did you read the friggin article? one_voice Mar 2015 #8
Yes, I read the article. It starts from this premise: "Poverty is sexist." And goes on: ND-Dem Mar 2015 #9
Well while you complain about the fact that it's based on women's issues... one_voice Mar 2015 #10
Maybe you believe that, but it hasn't worked out that way in practice. Ever. rather the opposite. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #13
So you're saying that helping lift women out of poverty makes men poorer? KitSileya Mar 2015 #15
I didn't make that claim. That's your spin. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #20
I am seeking clarification here. KitSileya Mar 2015 #21
I just gave you a post full of data. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #22
So I see. But what do American numbers have to do with world poverty? KitSileya Mar 2015 #24
so your theory of equality only applies to the third world? and what americans should do is ND-Dem Mar 2015 #26
Imperialism? KitSileya Mar 2015 #29
Microloans = bullshit failure. They put people into debt and that's the point. Schools for girls ND-Dem Mar 2015 #37
Women are half the world population and give birth to males and females. Both sexes benefit. freshwest Mar 2015 #66
I really do not understand your anger in this thread. sheshe2 Mar 2015 #46
His concern is with his own wallet, it would seem. Blames women for depressing wages.... bettyellen Mar 2015 #52
i came home from work and read that crap. sheshe2 Mar 2015 #53
As a female minimum wage worker, I already have pay parity with my male coworkers. And ND-Dem Mar 2015 #56
I don't know anything about that???? sheshe2 Mar 2015 #58
you weren't making minimum wage. i'm attacked everytime i come here. take a look ND-Dem Mar 2015 #59
I sent you mail. sheshe2 Mar 2015 #60
I've been a 'she' over 60 years now. I'm an unmarried female minimum wage worker, and have been ND-Dem Mar 2015 #55
not authority- just telling you like it is.Women and children so much worse off, here and on every bettyellen Mar 2015 #61
if, when you say "men," you mean folks like bruce rauner, I agree. If you mean the poor male ND-Dem Mar 2015 #65
The kind of nutrition they're talking about is, like the award recipients, linked to Gates, Monsanto ND-Dem Mar 2015 #54
It has been shown time after time that when poor women earn, they put most of their money to benefit the Luminous Animal Mar 2015 #11
What a bunch of sexist, classist crap. Yeah, poor men waste all their money -- only poor men ND-Dem Mar 2015 #12
They found exactly that happening among the Masai in Tanzania.... bettyellen Mar 2015 #31
yet middle class & rich men don't do that. only poor men. funny. but it's a useful finding if ND-Dem Mar 2015 #32
Not discussing the middle class- you're ignoring that supporting women helped everyone -boys and men bettyellen Mar 2015 #34
actually it's upper-class people derailing it, because they're the primary beneficiaries of ND-Dem Mar 2015 #35
"experts" say anything. depends on who pays them. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #36
Except when women earn- their resources tend to enrich everyone. bettyellen Mar 2015 #38
Women have always earned; poor women stay poor despite earning. I'd be willing to bet ND-Dem Mar 2015 #39
They are dramatically poorer than the poorest men worldwide- this starves the children bettyellen Mar 2015 #41
why don't you argue the point rather than impugning me personally? i haven't impugned you. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #43
Lol, wanting equal pay for women is divisive now? Not among progressives it isn't! bettyellen Mar 2015 #44
in theory it's not. in practice, it is. and it's also a means of racheting down wages for everyone ND-Dem Mar 2015 #50
HA HA, just like it's women's fault less men are going to college these days. Women can't make any bettyellen Mar 2015 #51
I've already told you, repeatedly, I'm a female mimimum wage worker, and an older one. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #57
It doesn't matter what sex you are if you blame women for depressing men's salaries. bettyellen Mar 2015 #62
I use that line too when a study invalidates my biases... LanternWaste Mar 2015 #63
i speak from experience in the field myself. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #64
It reminds me of the men who bemoan that poor guys can't get girlfriends KitSileya Mar 2015 #17
Lovely post. Thank you. Luminous Animal Mar 2015 #19
I second that emotion. nt raccoon Mar 2015 #27
"When poor men earn, they spend most their money on themselves (gambling, liquor, prostitutes…)" ND-Dem Mar 2015 #23
It was the reality that NGOs and relief workers found in many communities. Those that actually care bettyellen Mar 2015 #40
But just *poor* men -- not middle class or rich men, eh? So your plan is to leave poor men ND-Dem Mar 2015 #42
Poor men aren't at the bottom- it's children and women who are. bettyellen Mar 2015 #45
What? You're angry that spending effort on women is the best way to end poverty? KitSileya Mar 2015 #14
There is no changing of places on a rope WhiteTara Mar 2015 #30
there is if you knock the other guy off. and i'm pretty sure my position on the rope is a hell of a ND-Dem Mar 2015 #33
If women would empower other women, it would help greatly. Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #16
I agree, Major! sheshe2 Mar 2015 #47
I don't like to use the word hate, but . . . Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #49
Roughly speaking, it equates to the saying about educating women KitSileya Mar 2015 #18
K & R Thank you sheshe2 lovemydog Mar 2015 #25
A thread of awesome. sibelian Mar 2015 #28
K&R! Omaha Steve Mar 2015 #48
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