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nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
Thu May 3, 2012, 01:08 PM May 2012

Spectrum of eating disorders and society (Warning a couple possibly graphic photos) [View all]

Yup, this is one



Bulimia. It affects a lot of people, and it is the least obvious externally of these eating disorders. Those who suffer it can reach the "ideal" of what society expects to be healthy weight and looks. It is not healthy and it is an eating disorder.



This is a photo of the perceived self image and the real image of a kid suffering anorexia nervosa. Yes, it is shocking and these kids end at times dying a fairly early death. But lord are they thin, well beyond our standard of beauty, except that many have argued Seventeen and others have used borderline anorexic kids as the ideal that other kids should achieve. Yes there is literature on this.



This is the other extreme. Obesity. It is an eating disorder... one that is hard to overcome since a lot of the issues, like the other two, are emotional and psychological.

Here is the difference, and why I am bothering to post this... and yes I was morbidly obese... so to a point this comes from personal experience. The kid who is bulimic LOOKS normal... unless you want to check the teeth... the kid who is anorexic, especially not that advanced as the picture, ok they are a little thin. But the obese are called fattie and a few other terms of endearment. They are also told regularly "if you had self control." Which is bullshit.

So let me tell you what a Fat person should do with those comments. "FUCK YOU and mind your own business". But at the same time we as a society need to acknowledge that part of our obesity epidemic comes from food policy. Yup, what we chose to subsidize and make WIC eligible has a bit to do with it. Don't believe me? Go down to the supermarket, I have, and check on what is eligible for WIC. What is eligible for Food stamps, same deal. What we subsidize, and food deserts.

People want to feel full. It's just natural... and yes there are foods and better foods.

But people one reason why obese people really get frustrated is because we as a society are judgmental of them in ways that truly we never use with either bulimic or anorexic individuals. And now we are starting to do things like discriminate for jobs. And I get it, this gentleman cannot in any way, shape or form be a firefighter. Take my word done the job. But there are many other jobs he can, and he will face job discrimination because of how he looks.

Here is another little factoid here. Fun fact. the gentleman in that photo will never in his life become thin and svelte and maintain it. He would do well to lose and maintain some... but it is rare the person who can go from real morbidly obese to what society thinks is beautiful. Some do...

But you see, those three disorders are truly fraught with psychological issues too... and are in the spectrum of eating disorders. So time to start talking of them the way we should and leave our puritanical bullshit to the side.

As to excuses... yup, I've heard them all from all three types of people. I used to have mine to. It wasn't a moment of epiphany... nope, it was more finding what I could do about it and what would work for me. And yes, a healthy dose of FU to the society at large. So I will never meet your true ideal of beauty... so what?

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I know someone who is going through this. It all seems evidence that something profoundly patrice May 2012 #1
Employers dont discriminate abelenkpe May 2012 #2
but also on how they look nadinbrzezinski May 2012 #3
My best friend in high school and college was bulimic abelenkpe May 2012 #7
You were close to her nadinbrzezinski May 2012 #8
They discriminate on both rox63 May 2012 #5
Our society's constant equating of beauty and worth is so harmful Marrah_G May 2012 #4
"...be a firefighter. Take my word done the job." zappaman May 2012 #6
As long as we are consumers and not citizens Rex May 2012 #9
Eating disorders have zero to do with being a citizen nadinbrzezinski May 2012 #10
That was not my point. Rex May 2012 #58
I have had an eating disorder most of my life. a la izquierda May 2012 #11
Nope, but we need to learn as a society to treat it as what they are nadinbrzezinski May 2012 #12
moderation, moderation, moderation seabeyond May 2012 #14
Very true zappaman May 2012 #15
in the universal law area, i really do not believe it is so much about willpower. i have found seabeyond May 2012 #25
No, not really... read the OP nadinbrzezinski May 2012 #18
i will have to disagree with you. and could argue that it is NOT that simple because of all seabeyond May 2012 #23
I wish you were correct nadinbrzezinski May 2012 #24
I hope our society finally, one day, evolves. We really need to. seabeyond May 2012 #26
I have learned how to not let it control me. a la izquierda May 2012 #37
true. seabeyond May 2012 #40
What prompted this thread today? Skidmore May 2012 #13
the eating disorder associated with obesity is binge eating disorder Iris May 2012 #16
That is one form it can and does take indeed. nadinbrzezinski May 2012 #19
BED is also associated with anorexia. Drunken Irishman May 2012 #63
I have yet to see a scientifically controlled study hedgehog May 2012 #17
There are, and I even posted one yesterday nadinbrzezinski May 2012 #20
I am a bulimic JustAnotherGen May 2012 #21
Yes, I am familiar with the chemical dysfunction nadinbrzezinski May 2012 #22
Thanks so much for clearing it up! JustAnotherGen May 2012 #61
This is so full of half-truths and inaccuracies that it borders on the irresponsible. Brickbat May 2012 #27
I agree zappaman May 2012 #28
You know, you should just put me on ignore nadinbrzezinski May 2012 #35
Eating isn't the only thing that causes Obesity. Neoma May 2012 #29
wow zappaman May 2012 #30
I'm quite serious. Neoma May 2012 #31
I know you are and I agree zappaman May 2012 #33
I hate the argument itself though. Neoma May 2012 #38
You're right Neoma. polly7 May 2012 #46
Damn, I'm so lucky. Neoma May 2012 #48
Awww .... I'm sorry you have to take them, but I hope they're working for you. n/t polly7 May 2012 #49
They are. Neoma May 2012 #52
Actually no... there are vey rare cases nadinbrzezinski May 2012 #39
Or you could have your lymph nodes fucked up. Neoma May 2012 #41
Yes, there are very valid medical reasons nadinbrzezinski May 2012 #42
I guess I read what you said too fast. Neoma May 2012 #44
Yeah, I just removed the snark. nadinbrzezinski May 2012 #47
"But I am sure you probably did not know that." zappaman May 2012 #43
I'm used to it. Neoma May 2012 #45
Get over it ...fat girls are cool. L0oniX May 2012 #32
Firefighter. Cop. Nuclear expert. Codeine May 2012 #34
Just finished jury duty on this one. pintobean May 2012 #51
1-5 to LEAVE IT pintobean May 2012 #53
I want to marry juror #6 and have his or her babies. nt Codeine May 2012 #54
Not cool. zappaman May 2012 #36
My first thought when I saw this image was: LetTimmySmoke May 2012 #50
I came close to being obese Canuckistanian May 2012 #55
And when you innevitably plateau nadinbrzezinski May 2012 #56
I DID plateau Canuckistanian May 2012 #57
My wife has been diagnosed sarisataka May 2012 #59
Congrats on finding a program nadinbrzezinski May 2012 #60
The image of the anorexic makes me want to cry varelse May 2012 #62
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