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Fred Sanders

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62. Get out the capers and lox! This is going to be a messy bagel Israel got themselves in.

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Tue Mar 24, 2015, 11:27 AM

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If this turns out to be true...holy shit. [View all] WilliamPitt Mar 2015 OP

Grabbing my popcorn and soda for this one. wyldwolf Mar 2015 #1

NO NO NO NO leftieNanner Mar 2015 #106

I will bring the Stoli, and some chip and dip. pennylane100 Mar 2015 #109

Excellent! leftieNanner Mar 2015 #126

This message was self-deleted by its author markpkessinger Mar 2015 #170

Laphroaig or Lagavullin for me! n/t markpkessinger Mar 2015 #171

Laphroaig, aye, that's the stuff, lad! hifiguy Mar 2015 #185

Like drinking a glass of peat! markpkessinger Mar 2015 #189

I'm more of a MacAllan 18, Highland Park, or Balvenie girl myself leftieNanner Mar 2015 #205

Won't say no to any of those! markpkessinger Mar 2015 #229

IPA's unionthug777 Mar 2015 #175

How about a couple of bottles of Glengoole? Initech Mar 2015 #196

Yes on the popcorn! yuiyoshida Mar 2015 #124

We need to call grand jury to see if crimes have been committed. lewebley3 Mar 2015 #198

Please ... Cosmocat Mar 2015 #215

There could be a case for treason here Matt_in_STL Mar 2015 #2

Doubtful because of the relevations of this article Fearless Mar 2015 #67

If it was due to incompetence Aerows Mar 2015 #141

Agreed. Fearless Mar 2015 #148

Someone from the Republican party Aerows Mar 2015 #224

All of them IMHO Fearless Mar 2015 #225

Every single 47 of them. n/t Aerows Mar 2015 #228

+1,000 n/t malaise Mar 2015 #213

Being Dumb? cynzke Mar 2015 #211

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #75

Maybe Boner can discuss it during his upcoming visit with Bibi over there? George II Mar 2015 #78

I am sure Bonerman will have stern words with Bibi about this! yellowcanine Mar 2015 #92

if the 47 were connected though PatrynXX Mar 2015 #136

Maybe you look up the definition of treason. former9thward Mar 2015 #169

We need a recording SickOfTheOnePct Mar 2015 #183

No one is going to get charged with treason. Hell war criminals are welcomed with open arms and rhett o rick Mar 2015 #173

Does anyone know YarnAddict Mar 2015 #3

No, and no, and thank the Lord. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #18

Think you'll feel the same way YarnAddict Mar 2015 #46

I do not think that way, you can have the glass half empty if you like. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #47

What way?? YarnAddict Mar 2015 #48

Diplomacy & negotiating treaties w/foreign govts is reserved to the Executive Branch. Demit Mar 2015 #81

It has to do with the Constitutional division of powers, that's all Hekate Mar 2015 #83

These talks are aimed at an "executive agreement" not a treaty that Congress must approve brush Mar 2015 #96

Consistently I believe. TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #163

Um, I hate to mention this but, whathehell Mar 2015 #60

nice catch .... (nt) sunnystarr Mar 2015 #177

Thanks. whathehell Mar 2015 #193

Since these talks are INTERNATIONAL involving five other major powers, all on the same page sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #86

No there should not. HERVEPA Mar 2015 #101

Israel spying on the US? I am shocked. shocked! Its never ever happened before! marble falls Mar 2015 #4

and conspiring with congress to derail the presidents policies...i am shocked. spanone Mar 2015 #5

Just wait until AIPAC finds out about this! hootinholler Mar 2015 #12

Remember Doug Feith, Wurmser, & Franklin down at the Pentagon Office of Special Plans? leveymg Mar 2015 #115

And before that there was poker nights with Cunningham hootinholler Mar 2015 #131

Yep, remember when Franklin got arrested, noticing what appeared to be orchestrated coverups then... cascadiance Mar 2015 #214

Yes, I've noticed similar pattern where google searches turn up NYT articles months after they leveymg Mar 2015 #218

That is not the point at all. Put things in topical perspective rather than using stock thinking. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #19

And that perspective would be what? That Israel honors its relationship with the US selectively? marble falls Mar 2015 #28

The issue is Israel spying on China, France, Russia, Germany all at the same time!! On a very Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #33

I think the perspective is Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #34

Best Friends Forever do not spy on the most delicate Five Nation talks and then complain they do not Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #38

These are not the 'Best Friends Forever' I would want. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #39

+1 BeanMusical Mar 2015 #104

How much more will it take before Americans realize that Israel... bvar22 Mar 2015 #201

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Seems like Obama is laying the groundwork for withholding the UNSC veto LittleBlue Mar 2015 #6

Obama is preparing nothing but the logical consequence of the groundwork Israel and Republicans dug up. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #35

I hope that's the case, or, at least, the outcome. mountain grammy Mar 2015 #50

That would be fantastic. harun Mar 2015 #210

Some spanking is in order ...maybe cut allowance for a month too. L0oniX Mar 2015 #7

That would actually be a reasonable reaction. marble falls Mar 2015 #30

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Absolutely. BeanMusical Mar 2015 #105

Cutting Israel's allowance is not possible. truedelphi Mar 2015 #179

US Americans first ...should be a campaign slogan., L0oniX Mar 2015 #182

You got it Mnpaul Mar 2015 #191

Israel should be sending us aid. bvar22 Mar 2015 #202

Our very own government are fracturing before our very eyes!!! TRoN33 Mar 2015 #8

No one is losing credibility except Republicans. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #20

Not just Republicans. The Democrats who entertained Bibi while he was attempting to undermine sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #140

Correct. Elizabeth Warren & Bernie Sanders were some of the few who opted out. n/t whathehell Mar 2015 #195

Part of the issue, IMO, is that almost NO Republican in Congress served in the military closeupready Mar 2015 #23

Could the actions actions on Iran diplomacy finally splinter off the remaining old time Republicans? karynnj Mar 2015 #56

this progress makes the chance of a false flag operation.... grasswire Mar 2015 #112

Not a fucking chance Cosmocat Mar 2015 #216

"Fractured" is the word the woman journalist Thom Hartmann has on weekly used NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #102

The Senate mercuryblues Mar 2015 #9

This may go on all the time with our allies-especially with Israel. Baitball Blogger Mar 2015 #10

Not surprising or shocking. Countries spy, particularly on issues that are important to their stevenleser Mar 2015 #11

Does the Mossad always share what they find with Republicans as well? n/t Oilwellian Mar 2015 #15

Yes, I hit save by mistake before adding that part. That is what is special here. stevenleser Mar 2015 #27

Missing the point is that Israel does not get a "get out of spying" free card, do they? Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #24

In 99.999% of cases, countries get a "get out of spying" free card. stevenleser Mar 2015 #26

So you went with it.....because it happens?....collusion is the reason for the treason laws! Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #29

You're criticizing me for noting reality as it is? I think that says it all. stevenleser Mar 2015 #32

Same criminal penalties if I am not mistaken, whatever the name, spy versus spy. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #36

How can one country commit treason Codeine Mar 2015 #89

When your BFF, person or country, spies on you and gives info. to whomever, it is treason. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #117

Treason does not mean what you think it means. Codeine Mar 2015 #121

If any of that information was provided to any member of our Congress, leading to Boehner sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #146

Of course. Codeine Mar 2015 #147

I agree. Treason only applies to the citizens of a particular country. I'm just wondering if sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #151

How can a sovereign state commit treason against another? TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #164

The State of Israel is not a US citizen. stone space Mar 2015 #166

The people most likely to use that word Codeine Mar 2015 #184

You say the important part isn't the spying whatchamacallit Mar 2015 #138

Rationalizing and justifying immoral behavior is precisely what has gotten this whole world in the Dont call me Shirley Mar 2015 #61

Oh please. There are 190 countries on this planet, virtually all spy. stevenleser Mar 2015 #65

Refer back to my prior post. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2015 #72

Refer back to my prior post. nt stevenleser Mar 2015 #80

When bad behavior is the norm, as it is today, bad results are all that can be expected. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2015 #87

+ 1 rusty fender Mar 2015 #139

My thoughts are along those lines Sanity Claws Mar 2015 #94

Thank you. We have got to start making nice in the world to counter all the mean. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2015 #97

Exactly! It's like a bad parent when a child misbehaves, 'oh, s/he's just being a kid'. And when the sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #226

Well, then it's time to make sure that it doesn't 'go on all the time'. But supposing it does, do sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #144

If Boehner and his merry Republicans have seceded from the US, let's treat them as such world wide wally Mar 2015 #13

Will be interesting to see Duval Mar 2015 #14

K & R !!! WillyT Mar 2015 #16

Israel probably has a lot of dirt on the congress people it's "persuading" too. hunter Mar 2015 #17

Good point. A little blackmail between friends? erronis Mar 2015 #25

I'm certain that's what holds the Republican Party together; not just a little blackmail... hunter Mar 2015 #45

Just another symptom of many in Congress who believe they are above the laws they create CanonRay Mar 2015 #21

Unfortunately the last few years have proven that there are a great many above the law Dragonfli Mar 2015 #174

Question: can spying on Iran be distinguished onenote Mar 2015 #22

there is nothing surprising about this JI7 Mar 2015 #31

Right...nothing to see...look away at Israel spying on four of it's friends......powerful friends. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #40

NO WAY, these guys are our BEST ALLIES and totally interested in a peaceful solution. AtheistCrusader Mar 2015 #37

WSJ Has It Too: WillyT Mar 2015 #41

Big K & R Thespian2 Mar 2015 #42

A congressional investigation maindawg Mar 2015 #43

Nah, they will just blame Obama Iliyah Mar 2015 #73

BINGO! Cosmocat Mar 2015 #217

"Israel, you are SO UnFriended" - America, France and Germany. One month timeout to investigate. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #44

What if it does? What happened the last time we caught Israel spying on us? WhoIsNumberNone Mar 2015 #49

Stay topical...no more matter how many examples of spying one posts - is still the death penalty. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #51

U.S.S. Liberty gordianot Mar 2015 #52

Technically that wasn't spying. WhoIsNumberNone Mar 2015 #53

Yes in 1968 someone had the gall to suggest they be told when certain ships were in the area. gordianot Mar 2015 #59

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when is the last time they shared their intel with members of our senate magical thyme Mar 2015 #165

I heard this morning that a "Senior Israeli Official" responded ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #54

Get out the capers and lox! This is going to be a messy bagel Israel got themselves in. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #62

Wow. one_voice Mar 2015 #150

Yup, that was my reaction to that comment MrBig Mar 2015 #153

I updated... one_voice Mar 2015 #155

Yup, still agree with you MrBig Mar 2015 #156

Some of the bigotry that's allowed to.. one_voice Mar 2015 #160

Agreed MrBig Mar 2015 #162

Not unusual for this poster. 840high Mar 2015 #203

You may as well have went Fuzzy Zoeller and busted out watermelon and fried chicken TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #167

What a complete misser of satire some folks are..your comparison is a comprehension error. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #192

Satire of what? Did you actually think that was some kind of cutting humor? TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #221

Misread? Like "All Is Forgiven", and accompanying narrative? The fake Paris "March of Leaders"? Shouldn't we Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #222

Popcorn indeed... Firebrand Gary Mar 2015 #55

Natanyahu=Shylock albino65 Mar 2015 #57

Not sorry they did it, sorry they got caught and will blame Obama for finding them out. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #63

poor choice of words...you should change it Sheepshank Mar 2015 #84

Wow. You may want to rethink that word. Codeine Mar 2015 #91

I should be shocked MrBig Mar 2015 #99

Semitic refers to ALL the people of the middle east albino65 Mar 2015 #108

By any definition, it's still anti-Semitic MrBig Mar 2015 #110

many DUers have pointed out the slur you used. Rather than trying to deflect, how about doing the uppityperson Mar 2015 #128

Probably cannot. Posting privileges revoked. For now (nt) question everything Mar 2015 #223

A jury actually alloweed this to stay? tishaLA Mar 2015 #114

...but Admins disagree cyberswede Mar 2015 #178

well, that's a mitzvah. tishaLA Mar 2015 #180

Yeah - I hope juror #3 sees that Admins banned that poster as an Anti-Semite. cyberswede Mar 2015 #181

Beyond the simple fact that that should have been hidden, Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #120

Nice way to introduce an Anti-Semitic sentiment question everything Mar 2015 #122

Netanyahu is a nasty, dangerous piece of shit. And that has nothing to do with his ethnicity. enki23 Mar 2015 #143

Shylock.. one_voice Mar 2015 #152

Hard to believe. 840high Mar 2015 #204

Netanyahu is an ass. herding cats Mar 2015 #168

It made it past a jury so there are 4 others here who think it's fine. nt Mosby Mar 2015 #200

I'm hoping it was just a sad testament to knowing so little about antisemitic language herding cats Mar 2015 #208

Maybe. I remember first hearing the term when I saw "Get Shorty," and didn't understand what they Chathamization Mar 2015 #220

K&R! - nt KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #58

Whoop!! tomsaiditagain Mar 2015 #64

So you're OK with a foreign power using the proceeds of espionage on our country Maedhros Mar 2015 #90

Well, then, that makes it OK! BillZBubb Mar 2015 #133

and what do you think of 47 members of congress magical thyme Mar 2015 #188

Has a member of Congress ever been charged for something like this? Omaha Steve Mar 2015 #66

With allies like this..... blackspade Mar 2015 #68

Rouge state father founding Mar 2015 #69

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #85

Would love for something to come of this. Nothing will. n/t yodermon Mar 2015 #70

Clearly a change provoking discovery. Alkene Mar 2015 #71

Candidate for This Year's "You Call This NEWS?" award rocktivity Mar 2015 #74

CNN has also reported it! George II Mar 2015 #77

if this was a surprise to the Obama Team, I would be shocked. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2015 #88

This will turn out to be either a big nothing-burger or a nothing-burger will done about it. MSNBC ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2015 #93

Just watch this disappear into the background Android3.14 Mar 2015 #95

Israel did probably spy on the talks and we found out about it by spying of Israel. (n/t) spin Mar 2015 #98

Perhaps, but did Obama go to Israel and plot with members of Bibi's opposition in their government sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #149

There are rumors that Obama did try to undermine Bibi's election. ... spin Mar 2015 #176

self delete. posted by mistake in wrong forum. spin Mar 2015 #230

The money quote is at the end of the article. GliderGuider Mar 2015 #100

If it turns out to be true nothing will happen. zeemike Mar 2015 #103

Israel spies on us as much as china pasto76 Mar 2015 #107

Which proves the Republicans give lousy reports. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2015 #116

So how much did AIPAC pay Sen. Cotton this time workinclasszero Mar 2015 #111

I hope my president jomin41 Mar 2015 #113

Not to worry, Chuck Todd will be on it momentarily. tavernier Mar 2015 #118

Actually the spying is NOT the problem. All countries do it against their friends and foes. The still_one Mar 2015 #119

What will happen because of Israel spying and passing their "intel" to the GOP? DaveT Mar 2015 #123

The US and Israel both spy on one another oberliner Mar 2015 #125

Yes, but do we pass secrets over to Netanyahu's political enemies in an effort to undermine his leveymg Mar 2015 #127

just a side note questionseverything Mar 2015 #129

No, Snowden revealed we are paying for the spying done on us by our own government magical thyme Mar 2015 #190

If the US felt its security was being put in jeopardy by an ally oberliner Mar 2015 #130

Any Snow-Wald comment on this one? Blue_Tires Mar 2015 #132

I'm shocked. awoke_in_2003 Mar 2015 #134

Israel has always done whatever it wants postatomic Mar 2015 #135

Israel denies it. Of course, they deny having nuclear weapons too. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2015 #137

Israel does not deny having nuclear weapons oberliner Mar 2015 #142

Have they been inspected yet? Will there be sanctions if not? Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2015 #145

I was also told by a neighbor who has Israeli ties that Palestinians are treated Cleita Mar 2015 #154

I have a Palestinian optometrist who disagrees with your neighbor's assessment. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2015 #157

My neighbor is a moron. He's like a Jewish version of a Tea Bagger. He has drank Cleita Mar 2015 #158

There is no error so monstrous that it fails to find defenders among the ablest men. Lord Acton Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2015 #159

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Mar 2015 #161

per WSJ article, Israeli officials practically admit to using the intel to lobby congress magical thyme Mar 2015 #172

The the Senator Cotton and his klan aided and abet them... Historic NY Mar 2015 #186

Would not be ONE BIT surprised. hifiguy Mar 2015 #187

None dare call it treason, except for progressives. Rex Mar 2015 #194

Bibi is a facist, and the GOP are traitors!!!! lewebley3 Mar 2015 #197

I would be surprised if it wasn't true. cheapdate Mar 2015 #199

Well holy Toledo marym625 Mar 2015 #206

I thought everyone wanted peace in the Middle East. Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #207

If true, I'm not surprised DFW Mar 2015 #209

The Other Shoe.... cynzke Mar 2015 #212

Justin Raimondo just published an article now that highlights the history of Israeli spying on us. cascadiance Mar 2015 #219

Will somebody tell me the truth?? !! mstinamotorcity2 Mar 2015 #227