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Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)
35. Very, very good point.
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 03:41 PM
Mar 2015

In this case, it strikes me that mental illness could by no means cover the degree of malice evinced by the perpetrator, the co-pilot, in this instance. Far from it.

Yet it seems to be that journalists can't rush swiftly enough to blame such malice on mental illness. I suppose it is at least a logical consequence of the relativism that holds sway over our lives today. Relativism is the belief that there is no divine arbiter of right and wrong. And since there is no divine arbiter of right and wrong, why, we must just make up our own morality, the thinking goes; no right or wrong, as such. To think otherwise is just unscientific, and extremely foolish. All our thoughts and decisions are just the product of inanimate matter, chunks of meat that we are: a bunch of molecules racing around. Some call it dirt-worship. To me, they are prophetic self-described 'meat-heads'.

I remember a program on British TV about a man with paranoid schizophrenia. He was so concerned at the thoughts that he might kill someone, that he kept asking (unsuccessfully) to be returned, at least for treatment, to the mental institution he'd been in.

He went to a department store and ran the blade of a knife across one of the female assistants' throats - the blunt edge. Now, I suspect that it was no accident that he used the blunt edge - it's not rocket science to use the sharp edge, but more importantly he had stated that he was torn. He did not want to harm anyone, but fought against voices and the impulse to kill someone.

Yet the reporter, surely highly educated, as they tend to be in the TV and journalism business, trying to dramatize it further, was confusing his schizophrenia with psychopathy, which is completely different. Apart from being total devoid of conscience - perhaps partly because of it - psychopaths tend to be extremely well-adjusted, and are masters at learning how normal individuals react in different situations.

They are so well adjusted seemingly in every way, and most people so loathe to believe ill of them, that there is a relatively very high percentage of psychopaths among CEOs of large corporations. Their white-collar violence is immeasurably more subtle and diffuse than the violence of the street-level physical killer. Of course, sometimes a a person might combine paranoid schizophrenia and psychopathy, but there was no reason to believe it in that instance.

Well said, my dear uppityperson... CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2015 #1
Recommend! inanna Mar 2015 #2
I often feel like those that are WELL-adjusted to the ridiculous society we live in... stillwaiting Mar 2015 #3
Well said. n/t inanna Mar 2015 #5
I think you have an excellent point. niyad Mar 2015 #7
I LOVE Erich Fromm's thinking on the matter. stillwaiting Mar 2015 #13
Plus sixty-million! Dont call me Shirley Mar 2015 #22
Aldous Huxley: Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #23
Aldous Huxley was amazing. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #39
Depression in the gifted azmom Mar 2015 #25
hear, hear! mountain grammy Mar 2015 #48
Just thinking about that tonight! How some that have never known want or need Rex Mar 2015 #49
+1 Pooka Fey Mar 2015 #64
Thank you gwheezie Mar 2015 #4
Very, very good point. Joe Chi Minh Mar 2015 #35
and me. KMOD Mar 2015 #6
hugs from bro steve2470 Mar 2015 #29
k and r for this excellent OP niyad Mar 2015 #8
What a beautiful statement... Tom_Foolery Mar 2015 #9
Excellent OP. riqster Mar 2015 #10
Problem with the name Roy Rolling Mar 2015 #11
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ uppityperson Mar 2015 #12
i also hate that it's call mental illness fizzgig Mar 2015 #14
Well, that makes three of us Roy Rolling Mar 2015 #16
THanks, Roy.... bvar22 Mar 2015 #43
Thanks bvar Roy Rolling Mar 2015 #63
I stand educated. Thank you. byronius Mar 2015 #18
thank you. you beat me to it. mopinko Mar 2015 #20
I'm with you Fairgo Mar 2015 #40
I can only speak for myself. My intent in posting a couple of threads Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #15
The desire is understandable. kcr Mar 2015 #50
The over-riding focus of both countries' investigations Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #53
"going mental" Cooley Hurd Mar 2015 #54
It may have originated back then, but it's in current use in Britain... Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #55
It's offensive here in the states... Cooley Hurd Mar 2015 #56
OK, how about 'blow a fuse' as they say here in France... Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #57
How about something less disparaging to those w/ Mental Illness? Cooley Hurd Mar 2015 #58
See original post. Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #59
Thanks! Cooley Hurd Mar 2015 #60
such as? treestar Mar 2015 #62
"had a breakdown" works much better than "went mental". Thanks for asking. uppityperson Mar 2015 #66
Excellent post get the red out Mar 2015 #17
My immediate family has various issues ismnotwasm Mar 2015 #19
Thanks Roy Rolling Mar 2015 #65
uppityperson... Dont call me Shirley Mar 2015 #21
It sucks that you feel the need to even say it. Daemonaquila Mar 2015 #24
Here I thought that you were referring to general postings that get misinterpeted. hedgehog Mar 2015 #26
So true MissDeeds Mar 2015 #27
"look for a precipitating reason to prevent it from happening again." Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2015 #28
I think reactions are mixed but there's certainly scapegoating ... Fumesucker Mar 2015 #45
+ a billion and... steve2470 Mar 2015 #30
Truth is, the "mentally ill" are no more prone to violence truebluegreen Mar 2015 #31
Thank you. F4lconF16 Mar 2015 #32
My heart goes out to the killer of all those people, too, danclinger1000 Mar 2015 #33
Seriously?? sunnystarr Mar 2015 #42
Thank you for proving my point. You make a lot of assumptions based on very little fact uppityperson Mar 2015 #47
8 minutes dolphinsandtuna Mar 2015 #61
The code can be used right away sunnystarr Mar 2015 #67
K&R! Tarheel_Dem Mar 2015 #34
An excellent OP worthy of a thousand recs. Cooley Hurd Mar 2015 #36
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Mar 2015 #37
Thank you for saying it! ColesCountyDem Mar 2015 #38
thank you. I cannot thank you enough. Raine1967 Mar 2015 #41
Beautifully stated, uppityperson. raven mad Mar 2015 #44
kick Liberal_in_LA Mar 2015 #46
Mental health issues are overlooked and pushed to the back. Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #51
Amazing post. Thank you. LeftOfWest Mar 2015 #52
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