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rhett o rick

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133. I will be glad to debate that with you.

Sun Mar 29, 2015, 09:54 AM

Mar 2015

A person isn't progressive if they support:

The Iraq War
Continued war in the Middle East
not cutting the defense budget
the Patriot Act
indefinite detention and rendition
being soft on torturers
an uncontrolled NSA/CIA Security State
Fracking
so called "Free" Trade Agreements like NAFTA and the TPP
rolling back Glass Steagall

How does that differ from your definition?

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Not ONE word from the POTUS period! [View all] Omaha Steve Mar 2015 OP

And that is scary.... daleanime Mar 2015 #1

Time after time he let's us in on another secret - he is not one of the 99 percent. WillTwain Mar 2015 #25

Im sure I will not agree with all elements,,,, but Obama will make,,, Cryptoad Mar 2015 #33

Based on what actions? lark Mar 2015 #37

No Chance WillTwain Mar 2015 #38

What a Quantum Leap it is Cryptoad Mar 2015 #43

Lemmings die in large numbers while eagles soar alone. WillTwain Mar 2015 #47

Are you really denying he endorsed Rhambo and Summers is a valued consultant - Really? WillTwain Mar 2015 #51

Dont start making shit up on me, now Cryptoad Mar 2015 #70

I never accused Obama of Being a progressive. He does not call himself one. WillTwain Mar 2015 #77

In 2008, he ran as a Populist. bvar22 Mar 2015 #92

I think you should post this video every day. appal_jack Mar 2015 #100

I said he never claimed to be a progressive..... Cryptoad Mar 2015 #104

He did a spectacular job fighting his tail off to save unions in WI. WillTwain Mar 2015 #113

Why would expect him to do more than he did? Cryptoad Mar 2015 #119

I think he should have gone to Wisconsin many times. WillTwain Mar 2015 #120

Didn't he promise that wherever UNIONS are forbidden, bvar22 Mar 2015 #129

He isn't progressive and there is no reason to think the outcome will be "progressive". nm rhett o rick Mar 2015 #117

Agreed that he is not a Progressive Democrat. Cryptoad Mar 2015 #118

" breaking his progressive vows when in fact he has never proclaimed any." denial Dragonfli Mar 2015 #121

Sorry if I couldnt be here for you becon call,,, Cryptoad Mar 2015 #123

It has everything to do with the quote of yours that I supplied Dragonfli Mar 2015 #126

you are arguing with yourself. Cryptoad Mar 2015 #127

As a candidate he distanced himself from H. Clinton by pretending to be progressive. rhett o rick Mar 2015 #122

May have prtended to be more Liberal than HRC Cryptoad Mar 2015 #124

His stand on transparency, closing GITMO and rolling back the Patriot Act were progressive. nm rhett o rick Mar 2015 #130

I see what your problem is now..... Cryptoad Mar 2015 #131

I will be glad to debate that with you. rhett o rick Mar 2015 #133

I dont think they are either,,, Cryptoad Mar 2015 #134

It's amazing to me marym625 Mar 2015 #103

ROFLMAO!!!! bowens43 Mar 2015 #80

ALEC and similar special interests are nto the nation as a whole. merrily Mar 2015 #101

Not sure where you are getting that. So far we've seen zero indications of that. nm rhett o rick Mar 2015 #116

I disagree, all he has demonstrated is that his sympathies do not lie with the 99%. malthaussen Mar 2015 #49

That is a very good point SusanCalvin Mar 2015 #110

No no no----He loves us, I KNOW he does!!!! nikto Mar 2015 #108

why? what are any of us gonna do about it? MisterP Mar 2015 #36

Call your Senators, Representatives and Whitehouse to express your opposition to this global Dont call me Shirley Mar 2015 #53

POTUS has already pretty much said we should sit down and shut up. djean111 Mar 2015 #2

When did HRC speak out "strongly" for TPP? OKNancy Mar 2015 #6

To me, that is strong, if she was speaking to anyone in her capacity as SOS. djean111 Mar 2015 #7

So, according to you, Hillary should have been more like Dick Cheney? leftofcool Mar 2015 #9

No, that is a ridiculous charge and attempt to marginalize. djean111 Mar 2015 #10

Sec of State is supposed to speak the administration's policies, not their own. That's the job. Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #11

She is backing away from the TPP, despite anything years ago. Rex Mar 2015 #99

you're saying he's fast tracking it in order to kill it? can you explain to me how that would ND-Dem Mar 2015 #106

Wouldn't THAT be something! Buns_of_Fire Mar 2015 #107

Could you please supply links that show where and how Hillary helped to architect the TPP? leftofcool Mar 2015 #8

... bunnies Mar 2015 #13

Thanks. Thread-jacking and thread-burying usually does consist of demanding links. djean111 Mar 2015 #15

I knew Id be needing that link eventually. bunnies Mar 2015 #16

You can always ask Woo ...has a store house of facts and links. Woo rocks the house. L0oniX Mar 2015 #75

That's a claim and not proof uponit7771 Mar 2015 #19

You know what? It doesn't matter if you believe it. It really does not. djean111 Mar 2015 #21

Doesn't matter if I believe a claim?! OK, I don't ... don't believe claims of WMDs or Hillary Clinto uponit7771 Mar 2015 #23

Well... there seems to be no shortage of people making that claim. bunnies Mar 2015 #39

Why,that sounds reasonable... Fairgo Mar 2015 #86

I've heard similarly asinine responses to Android3.14 Mar 2015 #48

So a claim =proof?! Really?! FUD is working hard here no? tia uponit7771 Mar 2015 #59

...the day after his 2008 election. They can choose: Money or my vote. They won't get both from me. L0oniX Mar 2015 #74

They are trying to bury it's existence. They know a denial from POTUS would make it newsworthy. GoneFishin Mar 2015 #3

Bingo! Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding. 2banon Mar 2015 #55

True, hide for now, wait to get the buy-partisan TPP passed to spread more to the 1% and to appalachiablue Mar 2015 #85

"Buy-partisan". I don't know if that was on purpose, but it fits perfectly. nt GoneFishin Mar 2015 #93

In the context of this discussion it's ok. A real duzy the TPP- appalachiablue Mar 2015 #94

The President doesn't acknowledge wikileaks stuff in general geek tragedy Mar 2015 #4

Even more telling... Fumesucker Mar 2015 #5

All that GOP fury directed at Obama is fake, IMO. FiveGoodMen Mar 2015 #12

Probably. The left has been screwed so consistently by POTUS that when he finally GoneFishin Mar 2015 #95

I bet you're right SusanCalvin Mar 2015 #111

Only one part of a treaty currently in negotiations. randome Mar 2015 #14

Because aspirant Mar 2015 #46

+1 SkyDaddy7 Mar 2015 #52

He is working to fast-track it. nt woo me with science Mar 2015 #17

He also hasn't commented on how much wood would a wood chuck chuck..... uponit7771 Mar 2015 #18

Resident Obama bashers will be quite upset that Obama will not react to this BS. tridim Mar 2015 #20

So you're calling all the DUers stupid who don't agree with free trade policies Elwood P Dowd Mar 2015 #26

Nope. tridim Mar 2015 #30

"...don't agree..." typically means arguing from an equal vantage point. randome Mar 2015 #40

So aspirant Mar 2015 #50

That's what I'm saying he's doing. randome Mar 2015 #62

The People's employees aspirant Mar 2015 #73

Show me a post outside of TPP where I bash the POTUS Omaha Steve Mar 2015 #28

You're not a resident Obama basher. tridim Mar 2015 #31

Thanks Omaha Steve Mar 2015 #34

+1 uponit7771 Mar 2015 #61

How do you define "Obama basher"? n/t Dawgs Mar 2015 #65

anyone who doesn't swoon over Obama 100% of the time Skittles Mar 2015 #91

BINGO! SammyWinstonJack Mar 2015 #115

You can do your part by alerting on all bashers. L0oniX Mar 2015 #71

PROSENSE is that you? Skittles Mar 2015 #90

This leak is a total mindfuck. GliderGuider Mar 2015 #22

You have nightmares about trade regulation? tridim Mar 2015 #24

Why don't you try making a guess at it? nt Zorra Mar 2015 #27

ODS? tridim Mar 2015 #32

Did you mean OCD? GliderGuider Mar 2015 #35

Make that nightmares over Trade DE-regulations. 2banon Mar 2015 #57

You have no problem with a race to the bottom in the form of a trade agreement? MrMickeysMom Mar 2015 #112

Hard to tell who is selling snake oil and who is buying,,,,,,,, nt Cryptoad Mar 2015 #29

K & R ctsnowman Mar 2015 #41

Obama to his voters about TPP: "Fuck off !" L0oniX Mar 2015 #42

Someone alerted... Agschmid Mar 2015 #58

Figures ...and I don't care anymore. L0oniX Mar 2015 #63

Jury results: Auggie Mar 2015 #66

"This board has been taken over by center-right a-holes..." Luv Juror #1 & #4. L0oniX Mar 2015 #68

I was juror #2... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2015 #82

Seriously? I thought we were all adults. Dawgs Mar 2015 #64

He can't say anything-it's against the law. Corporate law that is. jalan48 Mar 2015 #44

Yep MissDeeds Mar 2015 #45

Thank you again whistleblowers. Especially those in prison or exile. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2015 #54

+10000000000 woo me with science Mar 2015 #67

They are the real patriots for the people. L0oniX Mar 2015 #69

.... bigwillq Mar 2015 #88

No shit! I sent a letter to the editor of our paper saying that Hillary murdered Vince Foster... Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #56

You are comparing Democratic Complaints about the secrecy and fast tracking of the TPP SomethingFishy Mar 2015 #79

Not at all. I am saying, QUITE CLEARLY!, that a lack of response is not an admission of guilt. Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #81

He would not be denying guilt. He would simply be saying that the report has it wrong. salib Mar 2015 #128

not on'y that look at all the recs uponit7771 Mar 2015 #109

we were promised awoke_in_2003 Mar 2015 #60

Re Trade, Penny Pritzker, Hilton Hotel heir, now Secy. of Commerce, main donor to the Pres. campaign appalachiablue Mar 2015 #72

Wait.... anything that someone puts on the internet, that Obama does not expressly deny, Nye Bevan Mar 2015 #76

The TPP= Toilet Paper Party AND Trans Pacific Partnership appalachiablue Mar 2015 #78

K & R !!! WillyT Mar 2015 #83

I'm still waiting for my birthday card!! JoePhilly Mar 2015 #84

K and R bigwillq Mar 2015 #87

Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Mar 2015 #89

K & R Thespian2 Mar 2015 #96

You really expect the President of the United States to address each and every rumor, "leak".... George II Mar 2015 #97

Well the TPP is supposed to be ultra secret right? So if he says anything Rex Mar 2015 #98

Oh no! marym625 Mar 2015 #102

I'm glad it got released. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2015 #105

If you wan't to keep something truly secret, don't define what it's NOT demwing Mar 2015 #114

White House says it's been public since April 2012. They say that one is accurate, current and pampango Mar 2015 #125

It is difficult for him to explain this: woo me with science Mar 2015 #132