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JHB

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34. Fair enough, but what has been his response to the people who lied to him...
Fri May 4, 2012, 07:05 AM
May 2012

Last edited Fri May 4, 2012, 07:55 AM - Edit history (4)

...and used his reputation to advance their war plans?

Powell was seen as the reasonable respectable guy on the Bush team, the one who was a linchpin in convincing people to acquiesce to their push to invade. The career military man who wouldn't support putting troops in harm's way unless it was necessary. The man whose "Powell doctrine" would keep it short and avoid a decade-long quagmire. They needed to convince people that there was a compelling reason to go on the offensive right away, when the best outside information saw no compelling connection between Saddam and al Queda (and plenty of hostility), nor any convincing evidence that Saddam was planning any attacks himself, nor that he had any capability to carry anything out.

Colin Powell was Mr. Integrity, and his testimony conviced some and sewed enough doubt in enough other quarters that few were willing to dig in their heels and oppose the Bushites push for war. Without getting into what Powell did or didn't know to be true at the time, it was his ass and his reputation left hanging out and twisting in the wind when the truth finally got its boots on, caught up, and revealed what a pile of horseshit it was.

Powell resigned and endorsed Obama. Well, that's better than going the other way, it still falls miles short. Cheney, Rummy, and Bush* used him to take this country on a half-assed neoconservative joyride that killed thousands of the soldiers that had once been under his command, wounded tens of thousands, wasted over a trillion dollars (and the Iraqis we were supposed to be liberating from a dictator got far worse).

And that's the best case, that he'd been duped. The alternative was that he was on board with the plan.

A resignation after the damage is done and a quiet cross-party endorsement don't quite balance that out. If he wants his "blot" removed, he's going to have to be more active in expunging the factors that put it there. He didn't lose his reputation, it is exactly where he sent it.

On edit: The very same neocons who wanted the invasion of Iraq -- with their colossal underestimates of the human, material, and political costs to the country -- are now pushing for attacks on Iran, and if anything are low-balling the possible consequences to an even greater degree. Where is Powell on this? Is he just going to quietly meander the lecture circuit while they try to do it again?

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Whoa. "Colin Powell's Blot" [View all] babylonsister May 2012 OP
No props. He forgot the troops. He allowed his ambitions to come ahead of the troops. peacebird May 2012 #1
Bullshit. He didnt throw anything under the bus. "fealty"?! forget his endorsement in 2008? pasto76 May 2012 #11
colin powell was the young army officer who was charged with iemitsu May 2012 #15
Powell has been a career lying sack of sh!t. His endorsement of Obama EFerrari May 2012 #26
Powell is lying when he says he was fooled by the information given to him. Much has been written sabrina 1 May 2012 #23
Fair enough, but what has been his response to the people who lied to him... JHB May 2012 #34
ambitions?? grasswire May 2012 #29
piss on Colin Powell KG May 2012 #2
Its like not smelling shit when you're in the outhouse. undeterred May 2012 #3
+1 Canuckistanian May 2012 #8
Great analogy lunatica May 2012 #33
millions of others had better instincts than Powell on this one. Whisp May 2012 #4
Erroneous? Iggo May 2012 #5
Dang. I wonder what happened at Mai Lia hootinholler May 2012 #6
Three strikes Colin .. underpants May 2012 #7
Man, I didn't know about the Guernica thing. That, along with covering the Statue of Lady Justice TrollBuster9090 May 2012 #10
Are you sure about that third item? Sanity Claws May 2012 #14
there is a tapestry reproduction at the UN justabob May 2012 #19
What is #2 a reference to? I share your assessment of Powell, but I'm coalition_unwilling May 2012 #24
Iran-Contra underpants May 2012 #32
Yeah, the point is, they sent Powell to the UN *BECAUSE* the world community believed him to be TrollBuster9090 May 2012 #9
Powell Can't Get Away With This DallasNE May 2012 #12
A "blot"? I'd say that's just a little bit of an understatement. Crunchy Frog May 2012 #13
It's like the Powell Doctrine never existed.. Fumesucker May 2012 #16
it was a terminal blot on the lives of how many thousand soldiers? spanone May 2012 #17
A blot? "Oh my, I appear to have gotten a drop of spaghetti sauce on my tie." tclambert May 2012 #18
"Before the smoking gun becomes a mushroom cloud." jerseyjack May 2012 #20
A blot? What about the blood on your hands, mr. powell? Skip Intro May 2012 #21
Eight years and 11 months later gratuitous May 2012 #22
Before he answers for those crimes, there's the little matter of survivors coalition_unwilling May 2012 #25
He's talking like he's on trial lutefisk May 2012 #27
He is a coward and a liar JFN1 May 2012 #28
Boy, did you ever open yourself up to a hailstorm for expressing a simple opinion...While I didn't Rowdyboy May 2012 #30
Really! Good thing I've developed a thick skin... babylonsister May 2012 #31
That's quite a blot given that it helped destroy thousands of American families ... GOTV May 2012 #35
"It worked for Me". GeorgeGist May 2012 #36
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