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Jim Lane

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38. I reject your criterion of "mention of your preferred candidate"

Sun Mar 29, 2015, 11:40 PM

Mar 2015

The situation right now is that no one has officially declared, but Clinton has a polling lead that's quite unusual for a nonincumbent at this stage.

The latter fact means that anyone unhappy with the prospect of a Clinton nomination has more incentive to criticize her than to criticize anyone else. That's just practical politics, not Clinton-hating.

The former fact means that we have no preferred candidate who's unequivocally in the race and whom we can tout. (You may have noticed that any favorable mention of Elizabeth Warren is just about guaranteed to draw the response that she's said she isn't running.)

For my part, I'm undecided about how I'll vote if both Sanders and O'Malley are on my primary ballot. I know that I'd vote for either over Clinton. There's no reason that my disagreement with Clinton over some issue has to be ascribed to Clinton-hating just because I haven't picked a candidate yet.

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Explain To Me...The Rest Of Us... How Resisting A Hillary Clinton Candidicay... Is Hating Hillary... [View all] WillyT Mar 2015 OP

i'm not a big fan of Hillary and there ARE people who HATE Hillary here JI7 Mar 2015 #1

Oh... I'm Sure There Are Here Who Hate The Policies They've Chosen To Emphasize... WillyT Mar 2015 #3

I'm pretty sure there were people that ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #29

They Are Intertwined And Inseperable... That's Why MLK... WillyT Mar 2015 #33

No, they hate the person Hillary. They loathe HER. n/t pnwmom Mar 2015 #48

You Really Believe That ??? WillyT Mar 2015 #49

Yes. I don't believe it of you, but there are plenty of others who are happy to tell anyone pnwmom Mar 2015 #51

Give Me Approximated Percentages... I Have It, At DU... 5%... Most Likely Less... WillyT Mar 2015 #53

I have no idea. But I see these posts on a daily basis. nt pnwmom Mar 2015 #54

Who referred to you as a Hillary hater? nt Cali_Democrat Mar 2015 #2

I Don't Have The Time To Cut And Paste That Stuff... WillyT Mar 2015 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Mar 2015 #5

I admire your tenacity marym625 Mar 2015 #6

excellent line guillaumeb Mar 2015 #8

Thank you marym625 Mar 2015 #9

Another I Found Recently... "There Is No Way For A Rational Person, To Argue..." WillyT Mar 2015 #44

Good one! marym625 Mar 2015 #47

The people who insist that DUers HATE Hillary, bvar22 Mar 2015 #82

"I have seen it said that the only reason we would dislike or disagree with anything President Obama pampango Mar 2015 #17

yes. right here on DU marym625 Mar 2015 #19

It's happened to me on two occasions. One is on ignore for me now. stillwaiting Mar 2015 #79

Yep. DeSwiss Mar 2015 #42

Please forgive me marym625 Mar 2015 #46

You are less cynical than I. I am convinced they do see perfectly well. merrily Mar 2015 #56

Why did you make me watch that? marym625 Mar 2015 #69

Oh, mary, I meant no criticism of you whatever. You do just fine. merrily Mar 2015 #72

No, not at all! marym625 Mar 2015 #73

We ALL do those things and we ALL need to work on them. merrily Mar 2015 #74

I don't know about that. marym625 Mar 2015 #76

I'll look forward to your efforts to shepherd me to the correct direction. merrily Mar 2015 #77

"You can not win a discussion against dishonesty" woo me with science Mar 2015 #59

Cool marym625 Mar 2015 #70

Suddenly the Hillary bashers are the ones being persecuted? JaneyVee Mar 2015 #7

are any of the 20 to 1 posters presenting plausible arguments guillaumeb Mar 2015 #10

Fine point ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #30

I reject your criterion of "mention of your preferred candidate" Jim Lane Mar 2015 #38

No one's saying there aren't people with legitimate criticisms of Hillary. The issue is pnwmom Mar 2015 #52

Well Yeah... I Suppose With The Thousands (Millions ?) Of Posters Here Over The Years... WillyT Mar 2015 #13

Not supporting Hillary does not 840high Mar 2015 #25

THANK YOU !! WillyT Mar 2015 #41

I agree! What really turns my stomach is how they side with the republicans on Benghazi B Calm Mar 2015 #57

Nothing sudden about it. Also, you fail to distinguish between criticizing a politician and merrily Mar 2015 #60

No one is being persecuted. Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #63

Misuse and abuse of the word "hate" LWolf Mar 2015 #11

Thanks... WillyT Mar 2015 #14

Those who bring accusations of hate into the conversation just show their weakness in defending Hillary on the merits of her politics and her record... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2015 #55

Do you... write... for... Scandal? OilemFirchen Mar 2015 #12

In Honor Of My Father's Friend... Dad Was A Journalist... So Was His Friend... Can You Guess ??? WillyT Mar 2015 #15

You are in their class marym625 Mar 2015 #16

Thanks... WillyT Mar 2015 #20

I have to hug back marym625 Mar 2015 #27

You're right . . . it does. Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #18

ROFLMAO !!! WillyT Mar 2015 #21

Okay. OilemFirchen Mar 2015 #26

It Is... WillyT Mar 2015 #31

Herb Caen yuiyoshida Mar 2015 #66

while I understand what you are saying Skittles Mar 2015 #22

Oh... No Doubt... But Like The Little Boy Crying "Wolf"... It Loses It's Seriousness... Rapidly... WillyT Mar 2015 #23

I doubt she thinks so Skittles Mar 2015 #24

I doubt there are many people who hate Hillary. Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #34

Are they posting she's mean, ugly, etc. Or are they posting about her public deeds, words and merrily Mar 2015 #61

you cannot tell me the utter hostility towards Hillary is based solely on her deeds Skittles Mar 2015 #62

Try addressing what I already did tell you, rather than telling me what I can't tell you next time. merrily Mar 2015 #64

...^ that 840high Mar 2015 #86

Thank you, WillyT. elleng Mar 2015 #28

I'm Not Trying To Create Controversy... I'm Just Exposing What Exists... WillyT Mar 2015 #35

Exactly. elleng Mar 2015 #36

You Have To Have An Inital Agreement That Enough People Go With... Then You Plan... WillyT Mar 2015 #37

I don't think those of you that want someone else hates her or are not real Dems. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #32

You are my favorite pro-Hillary poster on this forum. stillwaiting Mar 2015 #80

You are very kind. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #81

The simple answer is With Us or Against us. zeemike Mar 2015 #39

It's not just Hillary though. It is either you vote for Democrats every time in every election liberal_at_heart Mar 2015 #40

No, no no.... It's if you don't want Hillary you hate ALL women.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2015 #43

WillyT, WillyT, WillyT........ DeSwiss Mar 2015 #45

Just Tryin To Get A Discussion Goin... WillyT Mar 2015 #50

Yeah, but you burned down the house when you drug that barbecue inside. Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #65

It's just the usual "kill the messenger" defense when her flaws are pointed out. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2015 #58

Until Hillary even joins the campaign, I'm not even resisting at this point... Joe the Revelator Mar 2015 #67

I get armchair psycho-analyzed, as well as flat-out misrepresented, in other threads on this, and Warren DeMontague Mar 2015 #68

Because 'resistance' too often comes across as 'bashing'. randome Mar 2015 #71

Nope, I'm going to tear down what I don't want and break it into a million pieces so there is some TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #85

phlem. nt. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #75

Because this is DU and everything is hyperbole and hysteria... Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #78

I want her to have a challenge. mstinamotorcity2 Mar 2015 #83

Hate is irrational. If it's not hate, then people must have a rational reason to not want HRC. winter is coming Mar 2015 #84

Reasons not to support her 840high Mar 2015 #87