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starroute

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13. Cointelpro also went after individuals
Fri May 4, 2012, 11:05 AM
May 2012

I just read something at AmericaBlog (http://www.americablog.com/2012/05/why-occupy-movement-should-explicitly.html) complaining that Occupy "fetishishes" leadershiplessness and that the movement really needs leaders to condemn violence and set a moral tone.

But the lesson of the past is that as soon as someone appears to be a credible spokesperson for the movement, they will be attacked, discredited, or generally hounded into ineffectiveness.

This is already happening in a small way -- with the cops seizing on any available pretext (like arresting somebody's roommate on a six-year-old misdemeanor charge) to question people perceived as Occupy leaders.

But the abuses of the original Cointelpro went much further than this -- from spying on people to discover facts about their sex lives to messing up their employment and personal relationships and generally destroying their lives. And although the original Cointelpro was disbanded as part of the post-Watergate reforms, there was a second wave of Cointelpro-like operations in the 1980s directed against anti-Contra activists in the US.

So although Occupy may need to figure out a way to coordinate around certain moral standards, adopting a leadership system probably isn't it. Presenting a moving target is going to be a much higher priority.

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LOL the cops aren't our friends? I got flamed for saying that. Zalatix May 2012 #2
:) Anyone who has stood up for their 1st Amendment rights recently KNOWS Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #3
Thanks for posting all of these videos! countryjake May 2012 #16
God bless America deutsey May 2012 #18
And they are coordinated hootinholler May 2012 #19
Proof of undercover cops trying to fuck things up: Fire Walk With Me May 2012 #4
Thanks for the Bucky quote! Magoo48 May 2012 #6
Best thread ever. Peter King is a criminal whose actions for the IRA ...... marble falls May 2012 #5
Kick xchrom May 2012 #7
donut eating dorks Generic Other May 2012 #8
Bookmarking for later deutsey May 2012 #9
You say Mosaic May 2012 #10
Meh. Do you really think we have no deranged a-holes on our side? (nt) Recursion May 2012 #11
The other side is the *government*, in this case....not exactly evenly matched. Lars39 May 2012 #12
Yes, there are assholes on our side, but they aren't all armed and with "the law on their side". Magoo48 May 2012 #14
We know what side you are on when it comes to Occupy. U4ikLefty May 2012 #15
"We" do? How? Was being part of Occupy K Street not enough? Recursion May 2012 #17
Your posts are speaking for themselves. nt TBF May 2012 #20
Cointelpro also went after individuals starroute May 2012 #13
+1. No doubt. Mc Mike May 2012 #21
Unfortunately, this is all very true, it seems......And...... AverageJoe90 May 2012 #22
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