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153. RE: "no ethical cat owner would confine their cat if he or she lived out in the country. "

Reply to Android3.14 (Reply #140)

Tue Mar 31, 2015, 04:10 PM

Mar 2015

Well, unless they 1) like the cat and 2) don't want to feed the coyotes.

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Name one major environmental AND pet welfare organization that supports keeping pet cats outdoors [View all] CreekDog Mar 2015 OP

Ask a cat allforone Mar 2015 #1

Ah, you don't have an answer CreekDog Mar 2015 #2

Like I said open your door and watch allforone Mar 2015 #7

My dog tries to eat tons of shit that would kill her RedCappedBandit Mar 2015 #11

Post removed Post removed Mar 2015 #15

I had a cat that would recycle.. Feron Mar 2015 #87

I didn't ask what you endorse CreekDog Mar 2015 #13

Experts on cats allforone Mar 2015 #17

i'd settle for some expertise on DU CreekDog Mar 2015 #20

Wow, and that post got hidden Politicalboi Mar 2015 #25

Do you believe in the theory of evolution? el_bryanto Mar 2015 #28

It's not natural for cats to be in the US. ZombieHorde Mar 2015 #56

That is exactly correct. eom JEB Mar 2015 #111

they damage our ecosystem when the are left inside too! snooper2 Mar 2015 #145

Funny video. nt ZombieHorde Mar 2015 #147

I agree. Chemisse Mar 2015 #81

Why was that post hidden? 840high Mar 2015 #106

i have an indoor cat. one day she went outside when i entered. Liberal_in_LA Mar 2015 #22

One of my rescued cats had been an outdoor cat Warpy Mar 2015 #80

yep. They are fine with an indoor life as long as they have access to a window Liberal_in_LA Mar 2015 #90

Yep. They need to look out and see life out there without wanting to experience it physically. BlueCaliDem Apr 2015 #176

Fleas and ticks love cats.. yuiyoshida Mar 2015 #118

The only thing to do about fleas is nuke them from orbit Warpy Mar 2015 #119

I adopted a cat who had been abandoned in winter. hifiguy Mar 2015 #148

Cats often realize the natural life is overrated Warpy Mar 2015 #149

I think Max's theory was simple. hifiguy Mar 2015 #151

Cats are intelligent creatures! Of course Max knew the score! eom BlueCaliDem Apr 2015 #177

Been there, done that and you're wrong. smokey nj Mar 2015 #37

Treating our pets well means allowing them to run out and get killed? kcr Mar 2015 #76

I will, if it ever comes home. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2015 #16

Ask our neighborhood coyotes. hunter Mar 2015 #103

The NAFC Orrex Mar 2015 #3

. CreekDog Mar 2015 #5

+1, I replied before scrolling down to see yours. hunter Mar 2015 #107

I saw a coyote warning sign posted in a residential area R B Garr Apr 2015 #175

The coyotes around here are invisible most of the time. hunter Apr 2015 #182

It's time for the annual argument already? ScreamingMeemie Mar 2015 #4

Next up Santa Claus... ileus Mar 2015 #39

I've got a Ninja Cat Bettie Mar 2015 #72

Bella runs to hang out on the waterfall by the pool, and she likes me to chase her ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #171

Yeah, I have one that THINKS she wants to go out Bettie Apr 2015 #181

Alley Cat, Neighborhood Cats, ASPCA, USHS all support feral cats and TNR. sinkingfeeling Mar 2015 #6

No, the ASPCA recommends keeping pet cats indoors CreekDog Mar 2015 #8

You didn't specify 'pet cats'. sinkingfeeling Mar 2015 #9

updated! CreekDog Mar 2015 #12

In what sense does one "keep" a feral cat? lumberjack_jeff Mar 2015 #84

I have two that were feral when I adopted them. My other two were also rescues, but never feral. nt tblue37 Mar 2015 #91

ASPCA: "Keep your cats indoors" CreekDog Mar 2015 #10

https://www.aspca.org/pet-care/virtual-pet-behaviorist/cat-behavior/stray-and-feral-cats sinkingfeeling Mar 2015 #19

I don't know the back story. pipoman Mar 2015 #14

You could save a shitload of time and money sharp_stick Mar 2015 #18

yeah, that works in a house, not so much in 3000 square feet of pipoman Mar 2015 #42

what are you attempting to poison? CreekDog Mar 2015 #88

You mean 'what are you poisoning'? pipoman Mar 2015 #93

People who live in town haven't a clue about Jim Beard Mar 2015 #121

I keep some bar bait in a feed room and a couple old refrigerators pipoman Mar 2015 #122

Im actually kind of horrified at your post riderinthestorm Mar 2015 #26

I've not one time brought a cat onto this farm...in 12 years pipoman Mar 2015 #32

Neither have I, in 30 + years. You can and should be doing better riderinthestorm Mar 2015 #92

well..probably 80% of the 80% are eaten by coyotes pipoman Mar 2015 #96

The coyotes at my farm come within 10 feet of the barns riderinthestorm Mar 2015 #161

I have farm cats too. cwydro Mar 2015 #152

how are you acquiring these cats? CreekDog Mar 2015 #30

they just show up...people drop off litters on the road every summer pipoman Mar 2015 #36

So you're using these cats for your own benefit (rodent control) CreekDog Mar 2015 #43

see post 32 above...maybe I should just shoot them? what the hell am pipoman Mar 2015 #55

Wow, your post just reeks with compassion doesn't it? hamsterjill Mar 2015 #58

They've been around for generations pipoman Mar 2015 #67

Thank you for at least agreeing to leave them alone and not harm them. hamsterjill Mar 2015 #136

I don't know where I have stated anything else... pipoman Mar 2015 #141

My issue was with your post # 55 hamsterjill Mar 2015 #143

Yeah, that was a response to #43...that poster is full of pipoman Mar 2015 #144

Great. hamsterjill Mar 2015 #146

He feeds the, uses flea control. Better 840high Mar 2015 #108

Lots of cats get left in our neck of the woods, also. Inkfreak Mar 2015 #62

He feeds them. morningfog Mar 2015 #65

I'm glad I'm a dog person get the red out Mar 2015 #21

Oh yeah? Do you like pit bulls? pintobean Mar 2015 #23

I have a preference get the red out Mar 2015 #41

That an ES? XemaSab Mar 2015 #89

Border Collie get the red out Mar 2015 #124

You might google English Shepherd XemaSab Mar 2015 #162

They are lovely dogs! get the red out Apr 2015 #183

I have an ES about that size XemaSab Apr 2015 #184

Yes get the red out Apr 2015 #188

I am a dog person and love pitbulls. RebelOne Mar 2015 #59

Do you like wiener dogs? Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #74

I like all dogs pintobean Mar 2015 #77

All of our buddies are indoors. Glassunion Mar 2015 #24

I've always kept my cats indoors pretty much, Blue_In_AK Mar 2015 #27

I tried just this with my cat Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #29

The American Coyote Society? KamaAina Mar 2015 #31

I live in a residential neighborhood and coyotes come for the cats Major Nikon Mar 2015 #95

Or Animal Control should try to chase away the coyotes KamaAina Mar 2015 #101

Um, wut? XemaSab Mar 2015 #102

If they're preying on pets, they're a nuisance! KamaAina Mar 2015 #116

So you propose killing a native species XemaSab Mar 2015 #123

Who said anything about killing? KamaAina Mar 2015 #138

Where do you propose to release them XemaSab Mar 2015 #163

If they must behave like ALF, KamaAina Apr 2015 #170

One of my neighbors complained the city won't do anything about them Major Nikon Mar 2015 #115

Back in the 1980's I became friends with an old Sac and Fox pipoman Mar 2015 #135

My old beloved kitty loved going outside. ileus Mar 2015 #33

I've always kept my cats indoors at night too. Chemisse Mar 2015 #82

All of my barn kitties are in overnight. I purposefully do this riderinthestorm Mar 2015 #98

The Goathouse Refuge here in NC makes adoptions for indoor, outdoor, or indoor/outdoor mnhtnbb Mar 2015 #34

I dunno, but it wouldn't matter one way or another. Inkfreak Mar 2015 #35

Aw, he is beautiful! sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #40

Thanks! He brings a lot of joy to our house. Inkfreak Mar 2015 #45

Orange tabbies are the best kitties. Cleita Mar 2015 #54

Couldn't agree more! Inkfreak Mar 2015 #64

Fun Fact: Ginger/orange cats are usually toms. Divernan Mar 2015 #128

One of mine was a tom and the other a girl. Cleita Mar 2015 #142

Actually . . . . Divernan Mar 2015 #154

I almost didn't mention either for that reason, but we Cleita Mar 2015 #157

Wow! A male Calico. That's very rare. Calicos are always female but now I read there ARE male Calico BlueCaliDem Apr 2015 #179

He looks awesome CreekDog Mar 2015 #104

I would agree with you. Inkfreak Apr 2015 #178

Interesting that some cats JEB Mar 2015 #114

Mr. Butters is one Boss kitty! R B Garr Apr 2015 #174

Our animals, dog and cats, go in and out whenever they please, through the doggie door. sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #38

yes, but who should i listen to? CreekDog Mar 2015 #44

I htink the point is that people who let their cats out aren't telling you anything... brooklynite Mar 2015 #50

You should listen to whoever you want to listen to. I was just over at the barn again sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #51

I should listen to whomever I want to listen to? CreekDog Mar 2015 #53

Yes, you should listen to those who are right. So, since you asked, listen to me. sabrina 1 Mar 2015 #61

maybe you should investigate personally and reach your own conclusions.... mike_c Mar 2015 #73

Listen to yourself. 840high Mar 2015 #109

Why should I? brooklynite Mar 2015 #46

The reason you won't is because you can't. CreekDog Mar 2015 #48

The reason I won't is because I don't need to... brooklynite Mar 2015 #49

the thread isn't to talk about your pet care, it's to talk about recommendations based on: CreekDog Mar 2015 #52

"a cat door for when the staff aren't available" foo_bar Mar 2015 #97

Fuckinay! tabasco Mar 2015 #47

Outdoor house cats should be rounded up as an environmental menace. ZombieHorde Mar 2015 #57

I have three indoor pet cats. tammywammy Mar 2015 #70

Yes, my point was for people to raise any new cats they acquire to be indoor cats CreekDog Mar 2015 #71

I agree, pets indoors. tammywammy Mar 2015 #79

What about roaming semi-feral dog packs? Those too right? Rex Mar 2015 #160

Any introduced species, other than humans, that is proven to be harmful to the enviroment ZombieHorde Apr 2015 #164

LOL! flvegan Apr 2015 #166

I don't like to see cats outside. Especially cats that have dyed. BlueJazz Mar 2015 #60

That was funny Redford Mar 2015 #94

Thank you. BlueJazz Mar 2015 #99

Couldn't agree more...what an affront to the proud feline psyche! Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #127

My cat does his... one_voice Mar 2015 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author Inkfreak Mar 2015 #66

The Organization of Homeowners that Thinks Kitties Should Have Access to Nature, that's who Hekate Mar 2015 #68

It sounds great until.. Feron Mar 2015 #86

I live in the city now and there are tons of ferals/strays Marrah_G Apr 2015 #168

Cats may make this decision for you. Little buggers Pathwalker Mar 2015 #69

+1 HuckleB Mar 2015 #85

my two are indoor only shanti Mar 2015 #75

you know who else wants to keep cats indoors? dogs. foo_bar Mar 2015 #78

The "Eff the Starlings Benevolent League". n/t lumberjack_jeff Mar 2015 #83

I promise to keep our agreement on something a secret CreekDog Mar 2015 #105

My cat likes being indoors in the winter and outside the rest of the year. B Calm Mar 2015 #100

It is against the law to kill songbirds, JEB Mar 2015 #110

Mine likes to go outside Aerows Mar 2015 #112

All of mine are strays - they go 840high Mar 2015 #113

I have heard of a Woman in Los Angeles... yuiyoshida Mar 2015 #117

The RSPCA says that you can do either, BUT explicitly recommends against keeping a cat indoors if it LeftishBrit Mar 2015 #120

And the Cats Protection League says roughly the same muriel_volestrangler Mar 2015 #126

My cat, a kitten of stray cats, is solely kept indoors. NutmegYankee Mar 2015 #125

Post removed Post removed Mar 2015 #129

Could Not Disagree More (nt) ProfessorGAC Mar 2015 #131

Well, at least we found the limits to which you disagree Android3.14 Mar 2015 #137

Did You Bother To Read Your Own Post? ProfessorGAC Mar 2015 #139

Well, let's look at my post again Android3.14 Mar 2015 #140

RE: "no ethical cat owner would confine their cat if he or she lived out in the country. " Bonx Mar 2015 #153

Freedom = injury and early death,so no thanks bettyellen Mar 2015 #133

My cat LWolf Mar 2015 #130

Our back yard in the states is enclosed by a very tall privacy fence. Puglover Mar 2015 #132

Why? dumbcat Mar 2015 #134

I've never met a cat that did not pine for the fields. Rex Mar 2015 #150

I never met a Beagle that didn't either CreekDog Mar 2015 #155

Cats and dogs are not the same at all. Cats rely on predatory instinct and dogs rely on belly rubs. Rex Mar 2015 #156

and the topic of the thread is not why cats and dogs are different CreekDog Mar 2015 #158

Then why did you bring up a dog in your last reply? Rex Mar 2015 #159

Why? flvegan Apr 2015 #165

the environmental organizations know a lot about the environment, that's the point CreekDog Apr 2015 #167

So, as well as the RSPCA for pet welfare, you can have the RSPB for environmental muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #169

Anything from the western hemisphere? XemaSab Apr 2015 #173

Do cats behave differently west of an arbitrary meridian? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #180

The birds do XemaSab Apr 2015 #185

I've never seen a humane argument made about the animals that die for the cat food XemaSab Apr 2015 #172

What is your alternative approach to feeding a cat? brooklynite Apr 2015 #186

My alternative approach XemaSab Apr 2015 #187