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True Blue Door

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30. It is, absolutely.

Thu Apr 2, 2015, 08:00 PM

Apr 2015

But your comment closely follows patterns identified as Russian troll tactics - specifically, immediately trying to change the subject to criticisms of the US whenever negative information about Russia is mentioned. Immediately going on the offensive against the accuser.

You offer no connecting perspective, no meaningful thought on the general subject, you just instantly reply to a story about Kremlin propaganda by saying "Americans do it too!" exactly like Russian trolls are required to do.

And citing a website just this side of Stormfront for feverish right-wing dementia on a Democratic forum does not inspire confidence.

I'm not the Thought Police - I'm an individual with thoughts living in a country where I can express them without fear. Vladimir Putin's Lie Machine is not a threat to that, but it is an insult to it. And so is your comment.

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Guardian exposes Russian "troll center" where paid trolls spew Putin web propaganda. [View all] True Blue Door Apr 2015 OP

This explains a lot... R3druM Apr 2015 #1

Yup, that's the M.O. right there. True Blue Door Apr 2015 #3

Well, at least they've moved on from Turbineguy Apr 2015 #126

"Take an offensive stance to avoid having to be defensive." stillwaiting Apr 2015 #5

They are undoubtedly taking notes from Putin True Blue Door Apr 2015 #7

Very much Kindred spirits Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2015 #47

Disturbing stuff. Putinistas seriously are descending into Nazi pathology. True Blue Door Apr 2015 #61

Russia is late to the game. Corporations and State Dept leveymg Apr 2015 #86

They're not late to the game at all. They were doing it on a grand scale True Blue Door Apr 2015 #90

There was an internet in the Soviet Union? leveymg Apr 2015 #97

This specific sub-thread is about the ideology behind their military aggression in Ukraine. True Blue Door Apr 2015 #98

If you say so, boss. leveymg Apr 2015 #102

Guess you didn't read the article he was responding to. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2015 #110

why would you think they need to take notes from putin? it's laughable. all these ND-Dem Apr 2015 #114

And some of our Democratic friends, you might notice. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #77

Go West Young Elvis Signal was the most most obvious. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #2

no. I think there is 'another' one who is even more obvious nt arely staircase Apr 2015 #4

LOL. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2015 #6

We definitely still have a few around. Perhaps we should be flattered at the attention. Hekate Apr 2015 #15

It's never flattering to be pissed on, no matter who's doing the pissing. True Blue Door Apr 2015 #18

You're pretty liberal with your conjections. IDemo Apr 2015 #28

i find the dopplegangers just as interesting CreekDog Apr 2015 #46

And the tag-team commenting is also obvious and annoying. True Blue Door Apr 2015 #57

Has a user with the word ''nuclear" in their username showed up betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #60

Hi! NuclearDem Apr 2015 #62

Why? Is the Kremlin operating a "Colmes squad" to Straw Man their opposition? True Blue Door Apr 2015 #65

Guardian is late as hell to the party Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #8

Seamus Milne does't work for Russia betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #10

What "NATO war" would that be? True Blue Door Apr 2015 #11

I would suggest you read some of the independent criticism of his work Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #12

I have no doubt about this but I also have no doubt neocon betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #9

Neocons adore Russia. True Blue Door Apr 2015 #13

Pat Buchanan types are paleocons not neocons. n/t betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #19

Oh, so you're going to pretend I didn't say most of what I just said. True Blue Door Apr 2015 #22

How nice we have an example of what your OP is reporting .. right on this very thread. Cha Apr 2015 #67

Say the name of the pestilence and suddenly it appears. True Blue Door Apr 2015 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author woo me with science Apr 2015 #20

I won't believe this story edhopper Apr 2015 #14

They probably won't hire anyone outside of Russian territory. True Blue Door Apr 2015 #16

Darn edhopper Apr 2015 #17

and if all their trolls get PPR'd, their families get sent to Siberia CreekDog Apr 2015 #49

The depth of corruption of our own nation is revealed by its incessant propaganda aimed at Americans woo me with science Apr 2015 #21

So you're literally going to do what was just described as the Kremlin troll playbook: True Blue Door Apr 2015 #24

No. The point is that the U.S is OUR country RufusTFirefly Apr 2015 #36

But you didn't try to make such a point. True Blue Door Apr 2015 #39

I think I just did make that point. Did you miss it? RufusTFirefly Apr 2015 #43

Well said. woo me with science Apr 2015 #48

Wait a minute! That's not part of the script!! RufusTFirefly Apr 2015 #51

Guy1 .... Guy2 ... Trajan Apr 2015 #66

Yup. Soliloquies under multiple names worthy of a Woody Allen skit. True Blue Door Apr 2015 #71

Oh the irony ND-Dem Apr 2015 #117

I miss Hannah Bell on threads like this. Don't you? nt msanthrope Apr 2015 #118

you must, you're always saying it. ND-Dem Apr 2015 #119

Actually, swarms. woo me with science Apr 2015 #76

... NuclearDem Apr 2015 #80

So the Guardian story is a "paranoid fantasy" now? True Blue Door Apr 2015 #69

If Cass Sunstein and those of his ilk Aerows Apr 2015 #64

He's a propaganda minister aiming lies at the people our govt. is supposed to be representing. woo me with science Apr 2015 #70

Obama's behavior is confusing betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #85

Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #23

Maybe this week you'll talk about the subject of this article. True Blue Door Apr 2015 #25

I thought the subject was government-paid internet trolls nichomachus Apr 2015 #26

It is, absolutely. True Blue Door Apr 2015 #30

Are you accusing nichomachus of being a Russian troll?! RufusTFirefly Apr 2015 #34

I'm not the one citing radical right-wing sources to derail a conversation about Kremlin trolling True Blue Door Apr 2015 #37

My sources weren't from any Alex Jones outfit. n/t betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #42

An inconvenient truth, to be sure. RufusTFirefly Apr 2015 #53

Oh, I'm certain of that. Unless RT has hired him. True Blue Door Apr 2015 #58

Results... Major Nikon Apr 2015 #100

Thank you for that, MN Cha Apr 2015 #105

LOL.. you got Alerted on by someone who was offended by "Russian Trolls"! 7-0 LEAVE! Cha Apr 2015 #104

There are a dozen other places that give the same information nichomachus Apr 2015 #29

You are seriously desperate to not talk about Kremlin trolling, aren't you? True Blue Door Apr 2015 #31

Misdirection is a pathetic, despicable tactic RufusTFirefly Apr 2015 #32

Yes, it is a despicable tactic. Stop doing it and address the OP True Blue Door Apr 2015 #35

People in glass houses RufusTFirefly Apr 2015 #38

I assume breaking windows is much harder if one works in a concrete basement. True Blue Door Apr 2015 #45

If the poster was in their parents basement betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #55

You didn't even read the Guardian article, did you? True Blue Door Apr 2015 #72

The original post and the article it is based on are propagandistic betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #41

See, now you're actually putting in some credible effort. This is how to do it. True Blue Door Apr 2015 #50

This sort of personal attack in response to the thread not betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #54

You "cry fowl," do you? Well, I cry fish. True Blue Door Apr 2015 #81

"Cry fowl"? blue neen Apr 2015 #101

It's more the other way around--this thread is not going the way R B Garr Apr 2015 #120

+1. LOL, they'll all be hitting alert now. Be careful, jury notices will be flying FSogol Apr 2015 #59

Right.. my last Hide which is dissolved now was for cussing out Putin! Cha Apr 2015 #74

No one should be hidden for calling that murdering Nazi fuckwad what he is. True Blue Door Apr 2015 #93

I know.. the little putinistas' sensibilities were mightily offended. Must be punished. Cha Apr 2015 #94

Bringing their sickly byzantine political lifestyle onto an American liberal website... True Blue Door Apr 2015 #96

No doubt. It's shameful we've allowed things to get this far. True Blue Door Apr 2015 #75

The big red boogie man is going to corrupt your mind Oilwellian Apr 2015 #111

And apparently the entire Western media is in on the "wild conspiracy theory." True Blue Door Apr 2015 #123

Employer's script? JonLP24 Apr 2015 #78

Apparently, yes...seems everyone who does not agree 100% with the poster is a troll...what does that say about the poster? Fred Sanders Apr 2015 #99

Infowars? Really? FSogol Apr 2015 #40

Yeah, someone obviously didn't attend the briefing about the vagaries of American internet politics. True Blue Door Apr 2015 #52

IKR!? Rex Apr 2015 #116

Oh does the OP offend your sensibilities.. you have to try and distract with INFO WARS! Cha Apr 2015 #107

Who is 'they'? Are you saying RT is secretly Alex Jones!? Rex Apr 2015 #115

In the US, we have FOX News liberal N proud Apr 2015 #27

Analogous to RT in terms of toxic lying. True Blue Door Apr 2015 #33

True if you have created a new meaning for "analogous". Fox the same as RT...NOT! Fred Sanders Apr 2015 #79

Because Fox is already under control. True Blue Door Apr 2015 #82

Fox has no influence outside their hard core viewers, you opine? Sorry, end of discussion for me with you. Fred Sanders Apr 2015 #83

Enjoy your coffee(vodka?) break. True Blue Door Apr 2015 #87

Truthfully your wall to wall insults are destroying your entire OP credibility....I got no problem with Internet insults. Fred Sanders Apr 2015 #92

Insults are easier to take when one is being paid for the trouble. True Blue Door Apr 2015 #95

Yes, fox "news" is for the neocons/kochroaches/teabaggers, et cetera. RT is for the Russian Cha Apr 2015 #106

Yes, fox "news" is for the neocons/kochroaches/teabaggers, et cetera. RT is for the Russian Cha Apr 2015 #103

. CreekDog Apr 2015 #44

and water is wet DonCoquixote Apr 2015 #56

Wildly disproportionate equivalence. True Blue Door Apr 2015 #84

Godwins Law betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #112

If it's Godwin's Law to equate a murderous tyrant who invades other countries True Blue Door Apr 2015 #121

"..with remarks praising the president, Vladimir Putin, and raging at the depravity and injustice Cha Apr 2015 #63

While he's murdering journalists and political opposition figures True Blue Door Apr 2015 #88

And, hurting Gay People in Russia.. but, oh Putin! Cha Apr 2015 #91

I posted a story about this a couple of months ago BainsBane Apr 2015 #73

I want to know when we can finally ban these rodents, from this website at least? True Blue Door Apr 2015 #89

one has been banned BainsBane Apr 2015 #108

The longer we allow this to go on, the more of them will become "long-term members" True Blue Door Apr 2015 #122

I find the position every bit as odious as you do BainsBane Apr 2015 #124

Sometimes it's very hard not to wonder if this site's title is some kind of joke. True Blue Door Apr 2015 #125

however many there are or were CreekDog Apr 2015 #127

Yet they always ignore this BainsBane Apr 2015 #128

thanks again for that, BB Cha Apr 2015 #109

Leave Pootin alone! Rex Apr 2015 #113