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In reply to the discussion: Guardian exposes Russian "troll center" where paid trolls spew Putin web propaganda. [View all]BainsBane
(53,027 posts)73. I posted a story about this a couple of months ago
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026279986
and some of Putin's lickspittle when berserk. But then when some of us posted the leaked Kremlin document showing that the invasion of the Ukraine had been planned even before the fall of the government in Kiev, they ignored the evidence. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026288703 (I think that thread had one of the paid trolls make a brief, incoherent appearance before being PPR'd). We've seen less of their transparent BS since, but I did see a recent surreal comment claiming those who question the Russian takeover of the Ukraine are "pro-war," all while stumping for war and bloodshed on behalf of Putin. You know, because being dead just really doesn't matter if it's not at the hands of Americans. When Russian guns kill you, you've been saved from the far worse fate of being subject to IMF loans. That doesn't count as war because the dead are being liberated from a life connected to the West, clearly a fate worse that death.The complete hypocrisy and utter immorality of the Putin faction is something else.
At least the paid trolls are earning some money from it, and of course they are Russian. The colossal stupidity of some sections of the American public has proven fruitful for Putin. His paid trolls have been influential, and we see their propaganda aped back to us by the unpaid and uncritical who for whatever reason will latch on to anything that they see as in opposition to the US. (There is some bizarre self-loathing at work there that is beyond my capacity to understand). I can only imagine their admiration for Putin in part relates to his knowing how to keep the ghey in line--by locking them up.
There is all kinds of stupid in the world, but that particular brand is marshaled to promote an empire built around racism and homophobia.
And yes, I know the US is an empire that does all kinds of damage in the world. The difference between me and the Putin fan club is that I don't use that as an excuse to justify similar actions by other powers. If imperial takeover of sovereign countries is wrong for the US, it is also wrong when done by Russia, and vice versa. That would seem basic to any anti-war, anti-empire principle. Principle is something entirely lacking in the defense of Russian takeover of the Ukraine.
and some of Putin's lickspittle when berserk. But then when some of us posted the leaked Kremlin document showing that the invasion of the Ukraine had been planned even before the fall of the government in Kiev, they ignored the evidence. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026288703 (I think that thread had one of the paid trolls make a brief, incoherent appearance before being PPR'd). We've seen less of their transparent BS since, but I did see a recent surreal comment claiming those who question the Russian takeover of the Ukraine are "pro-war," all while stumping for war and bloodshed on behalf of Putin. You know, because being dead just really doesn't matter if it's not at the hands of Americans. When Russian guns kill you, you've been saved from the far worse fate of being subject to IMF loans. That doesn't count as war because the dead are being liberated from a life connected to the West, clearly a fate worse that death.The complete hypocrisy and utter immorality of the Putin faction is something else.
At least the paid trolls are earning some money from it, and of course they are Russian. The colossal stupidity of some sections of the American public has proven fruitful for Putin. His paid trolls have been influential, and we see their propaganda aped back to us by the unpaid and uncritical who for whatever reason will latch on to anything that they see as in opposition to the US. (There is some bizarre self-loathing at work there that is beyond my capacity to understand). I can only imagine their admiration for Putin in part relates to his knowing how to keep the ghey in line--by locking them up.
There is all kinds of stupid in the world, but that particular brand is marshaled to promote an empire built around racism and homophobia.
And yes, I know the US is an empire that does all kinds of damage in the world. The difference between me and the Putin fan club is that I don't use that as an excuse to justify similar actions by other powers. If imperial takeover of sovereign countries is wrong for the US, it is also wrong when done by Russia, and vice versa. That would seem basic to any anti-war, anti-empire principle. Principle is something entirely lacking in the defense of Russian takeover of the Ukraine.
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Guardian exposes Russian "troll center" where paid trolls spew Putin web propaganda. [View all]
True Blue Door
Apr 2015
OP
Disturbing stuff. Putinistas seriously are descending into Nazi pathology.
True Blue Door
Apr 2015
#61
They're not late to the game at all. They were doing it on a grand scale
True Blue Door
Apr 2015
#90
This specific sub-thread is about the ideology behind their military aggression in Ukraine.
True Blue Door
Apr 2015
#98
why would you think they need to take notes from putin? it's laughable. all these
ND-Dem
Apr 2015
#114
We definitely still have a few around. Perhaps we should be flattered at the attention.
Hekate
Apr 2015
#15
It's never flattering to be pissed on, no matter who's doing the pissing.
True Blue Door
Apr 2015
#18
Why? Is the Kremlin operating a "Colmes squad" to Straw Man their opposition?
True Blue Door
Apr 2015
#65
How nice we have an example of what your OP is reporting .. right on this very thread.
Cha
Apr 2015
#67
The depth of corruption of our own nation is revealed by its incessant propaganda aimed at Americans
woo me with science
Apr 2015
#21
So you're literally going to do what was just described as the Kremlin troll playbook:
True Blue Door
Apr 2015
#24
He's a propaganda minister aiming lies at the people our govt. is supposed to be representing.
woo me with science
Apr 2015
#70
I'm not the one citing radical right-wing sources to derail a conversation about Kremlin trolling
True Blue Door
Apr 2015
#37
LOL.. you got Alerted on by someone who was offended by "Russian Trolls"! 7-0 LEAVE!
Cha
Apr 2015
#104
You are seriously desperate to not talk about Kremlin trolling, aren't you?
True Blue Door
Apr 2015
#31
I assume breaking windows is much harder if one works in a concrete basement.
True Blue Door
Apr 2015
#45
See, now you're actually putting in some credible effort. This is how to do it.
True Blue Door
Apr 2015
#50
+1. LOL, they'll all be hitting alert now. Be careful, jury notices will be flying
FSogol
Apr 2015
#59
No one should be hidden for calling that murdering Nazi fuckwad what he is.
True Blue Door
Apr 2015
#93
I know.. the little putinistas' sensibilities were mightily offended. Must be punished.
Cha
Apr 2015
#94
Bringing their sickly byzantine political lifestyle onto an American liberal website...
True Blue Door
Apr 2015
#96
And apparently the entire Western media is in on the "wild conspiracy theory."
True Blue Door
Apr 2015
#123
Apparently, yes...seems everyone who does not agree 100% with the poster is a troll...what does that say about the poster?
Fred Sanders
Apr 2015
#99
Yeah, someone obviously didn't attend the briefing about the vagaries of American internet politics.
True Blue Door
Apr 2015
#52
Oh does the OP offend your sensibilities.. you have to try and distract with INFO WARS!
Cha
Apr 2015
#107
True if you have created a new meaning for "analogous". Fox the same as RT...NOT!
Fred Sanders
Apr 2015
#79
Fox has no influence outside their hard core viewers, you opine? Sorry, end of discussion for me with you.
Fred Sanders
Apr 2015
#83
Truthfully your wall to wall insults are destroying your entire OP credibility....I got no problem with Internet insults.
Fred Sanders
Apr 2015
#92
Yes, fox "news" is for the neocons/kochroaches/teabaggers, et cetera. RT is for the Russian
Cha
Apr 2015
#106
Yes, fox "news" is for the neocons/kochroaches/teabaggers, et cetera. RT is for the Russian
Cha
Apr 2015
#103
If it's Godwin's Law to equate a murderous tyrant who invades other countries
True Blue Door
Apr 2015
#121
"..with remarks praising the president, Vladimir Putin, and raging at the depravity and injustice
Cha
Apr 2015
#63
I want to know when we can finally ban these rodents, from this website at least?
True Blue Door
Apr 2015
#89
The longer we allow this to go on, the more of them will become "long-term members"
True Blue Door
Apr 2015
#122
Sometimes it's very hard not to wonder if this site's title is some kind of joke.
True Blue Door
Apr 2015
#125