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Showing Original Post only (View all)The right’s “cake” insanity: You won’t believe how it’s trying to deflect the Indiana backlash [View all]
How absurd have Republicans gotten in their defense of "religious freedom" laws? They now argue "cake is speech"JOAN WALSH
Cake is speech.
Thats what Indiana Baptist pastor Tim Overton told NPRs Steve Inskeep Thursday morning, defending his states controversial religious freedom law. I thought it was so funny, I immediately tweeted it.
But as the day went on, it became clear that Overtons argument wasnt some fringe theory: Its shaping up as a core tenet of one compromise approach to religious freedom laws thats under consideration, in the wake of the backlash to the Indiana law, which Overton fervently supported as written. Its at the heart of the fix to the law Jeb Bush pushed Wednesday night with pro-gay rights Republican donors.
Heres how the pastor tried to explain it: Critics who say Indianas Religious Freedom Restoration Act would let businesses routinely deny service to LGBT Americans are wrong. I dont think any RFRA anywhere would say, Im not gonna give you a hotel room, Im not gonna give you a hamburger, or gasoline or groceries, Overton told Inskeep. Thats outside the bounds.
But just as a religious leader should be able to decide, according to the tenets of his or her faith, whether to preside over gay marriages, Overton argued, so should a florist or a baker get to decide whether his or her artistic ability should be part of a gay wedding.
I think most Americans would agree that a pastor like myself should not be compelled by the government to use my speech to support someone elses perspective. I think that has parallels to the cake maker. The cake maker is using his or her artistic ability to make a cake and that cake communicates something. I think that cake is speech, that says we celebrate this union. I just dont think they should be forced by the government to use their speech to support someone elses perspective .I would like the line to be drawn in services that involve speech.
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http://www.salon.com/2015/04/03/the_rights_cake_insanity_you_wont_believe_how_its_trying_to_deflect_the_indiana_backlash/
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The right’s “cake” insanity: You won’t believe how it’s trying to deflect the Indiana backlash [View all]
DonViejo
Apr 2015
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Summary... We get to be bigoted assholes... well... because... freedom of expression!
boston bean
Apr 2015
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So they're fine with being 'forced' to give you a hamburger, but not a cake?
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Apr 2015
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