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101. If I accept that your white friends use that word with you

Sun Apr 5, 2015, 04:28 PM

Apr 2015

Then I also have to accept Harrisons apology to explain that he and Frank are just "good friends", so he was just kidding when he said it.

Can that argument be turned around? Would Frank Kaminsky be getting this same treatment if HE had said it? After all you claim your white friends say it to you all the time.

Do you honestly think that Frank Kaminsky would be considered a NBA prospect this morning, had he said it?

I kind of doubt it, You know as well as I do that the media, and social media would be calling for his head. They would be petitioning the NBA not to draft him, for Madison to kick him out of school, etc. The outcry would have been the same as the Indiana pizza makers was this past week.

Again, I am not disagreeing with you, I am just trying to understand how you can calmly state that "I use it with my white friends all the time and they use it with me." yet not know what the outcome would be if the tables were reversed. Harrison stated that Frank was his "good friend" and that's why he said it, so Frank could use the same argument back at you.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] oberliner Apr 2015 OP

Loser GeorgeGist Apr 2015 #1

It was wrong for him to say it and quite unsportsmanlike Cirque du So-What Apr 2015 #2

This is such a loaded word... 3catwoman3 Apr 2015 #3

The video doesn't show the Harrison comment, on discussion about it. Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #4

Where can I find Michael Wilbon's thoughts? oberliner Apr 2015 #8

I am waiting. They will emerge, guaranteed. Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #19

I finally found the context of the quote. Harrison said it anger. So... don't need Wilbon for this. Buzz Clik Apr 2015 #90

So...what if you call a straight guy cwydro Apr 2015 #27

Not the same thing at all. bravenak Apr 2015 #32

Ok. cwydro Apr 2015 #43

Thats unusual treestar Apr 2015 #5

The difference is that the new freely-used variation replaces the "-er" with "-a". This variation ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2015 #9

Interesting treestar Apr 2015 #10

As much as I hated it as their step-father, I learned that it is indeed a way of rendering the ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2015 #11

It's as big a deal as people want to make it. IMO no big deal Teamster Jeff Apr 2015 #6

It's Kaminsky's fault for displeasing Harrison. He had it coming, and worse. nt Dreamer Tatum Apr 2015 #7

DT, I think you are right. The N-word may be casting off the requirement that the target be NCjack Apr 2015 #121

It just empowers the white racists who want to openly use the term as much as possible.(nt) Paladin Apr 2015 #12

Exactly forthemiddle Apr 2015 #97

Well put. (nt) Paladin Apr 2015 #109

Many on the Kentucky team showed little class when they refused to congratulate Wisconsin . . . Journeyman Apr 2015 #13

It's a free country, Mr Harrison is free to make an ass of himself on national TV any time tularetom Apr 2015 #14

So is a white woman at the University of South Carolina exboyfil Apr 2015 #135

I wouldn't care if Harrison got kicked out of UK for what he did tularetom Apr 2015 #137

My thoughts... OK... Ohio Joe Apr 2015 #15

How does that relate? oberliner Apr 2015 #29

See Paladin's comment JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #84

I believe he apologized for it Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2015 #16

The Oklahoma frat boys apologized too philosslayer Apr 2015 #92

Good grief! bravenak Apr 2015 #94

Agree Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2015 #122

my 15 y/o white nephew seems dowright proud and homey when his black friends Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2015 #17

I worked with a majority of black women cwydro Apr 2015 #47

yes, the people I work with are not professional or educated. I think it does make a difference. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2015 #48

I agree with you. cwydro Apr 2015 #61

I never use the word. it is not MY word to use. I did use it in a poem I wrote one time Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2015 #64

yeah, me either. cwydro Apr 2015 #81

Give me a break! bravenak Apr 2015 #18

Now there ya go with the context again! Dontcha know that context is bettyellen Apr 2015 #20

I know, right? bravenak Apr 2015 #21

You're talking about other people treestar Apr 2015 #39

I'm talking about how too many people here pretend racism and sexism is random instead of systemic.... bettyellen Apr 2015 #57

It's neat how a guy like Mr. Harrison treestar Apr 2015 #60

its okay for people discussing the issue to ignore the context? bettyellen Apr 2015 #86

Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #136

OK, fair enough oberliner Apr 2015 #23

Thanks. bravenak Apr 2015 #30

Thank you for fighting for the opressed, downtrodden white male Cali_Democrat Apr 2015 #72

Huh? oberliner Apr 2015 #145

If you think it is an insult treestar Apr 2015 #34

I use it with my white friends all the time and they use it with me. bravenak Apr 2015 #52

I would never use that word cwydro Apr 2015 #95

It is. bravenak Apr 2015 #96

Yes indeed. cwydro Apr 2015 #98

I know. bravenak Apr 2015 #100

If I accept that your white friends use that word with you forthemiddle Apr 2015 #101

So ridiculous. The word does not carry the same connotations when said by black people about white bravenak Apr 2015 #102

You brought up the comparison forthemiddle Apr 2015 #106

We are not on TV. I and my friends do not play b ball for a college team. bravenak Apr 2015 #110

OK forthemiddle Apr 2015 #112

Happy Easter! bravenak Apr 2015 #113

When it gets said in every sentence it just make people realize the person didn't graduate snooper2 Apr 2015 #155

Omg, you too? I feel the same way. bravenak Apr 2015 #160

It is used differently based on company around, that is for sure :) snooper2 Apr 2015 #162

I've said shit like that myself. bravenak Apr 2015 #164

Have you ever been around women who call their friends"bitches". glowing Apr 2015 #134

Or just stop doing it. But Maybe impossible. nt Logical Apr 2015 #104

You don't get to tell anybody how to live. You need to just do you. bravenak Apr 2015 #105

I get to tell people how they should live. They can ignore it and keep doing bad things. nt Logical Apr 2015 #108

Do tell. I'm just DYING for your sage wisdom. bravenak Apr 2015 #111

I assume you don't really want any wisdom. nt Logical Apr 2015 #114

I assume you think you have enough to spare for me. bravenak Apr 2015 #115

So you are fine with it? Not a story? nt Logical Apr 2015 #103

I'm more upset by the fuck part. Unsportsman like behaivior. Better to just say 'good game'. bravenak Apr 2015 #107

Oh, just say what you're thinking. Brickbat Apr 2015 #22

Not what I'm thinking at all oberliner Apr 2015 #25

Isn't it in the least amusing/interesting treestar Apr 2015 #35

Not to me. Brickbat Apr 2015 #38

Well then was it wrong of Mr. Harrison? treestar Apr 2015 #40

It was certainly rude, and he apologized. Brickbat Apr 2015 #41

Of course I realize that. treestar Apr 2015 #44

In this specific instance, he was talking about a peer. Brickbat Apr 2015 #45

We don't really know what he thinks treestar Apr 2015 #49

I'd consider it pretty "intense" when it's the first thing I hear when I get up ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #24

Not trying to say anything - just asking what folks thought oberliner Apr 2015 #26

I guess I'll be blunt in the face of vague. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #28

OK oberliner Apr 2015 #31

if the races were reversed Man from Pickens Apr 2015 #36

I didn't get obsessed over a pizzeria. Did you? ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #46

nope Man from Pickens Apr 2015 #54

But it was in no way indicative of DU as a whole. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #55

I'll let the facts speak for themselves Man from Pickens Apr 2015 #78

Has all of DU posted in those threads? ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #80

I didn't either but 840high Apr 2015 #138

All pizza, all the time. NaturalHigh Apr 2015 #150

What is predictable is that a good number will treestar Apr 2015 #56

If the races were reversed... NaturalHigh Apr 2015 #149

I was called a "nigga with good handles" during a pickup game in the 1990's as a white-boy. U4ikLefty Apr 2015 #33

^this^ honestly ... I do believe it is high compliment coming that way. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2015 #50

You must got mad skills! bravenak Apr 2015 #59

But can they jump ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #154

LOL! bravenak Apr 2015 #156

Watch It, 1SBM ProfessorGAC Apr 2015 #171

Was "Fuck that n***r was intended as a compliment? merrily Apr 2015 #63

Maybe he had inadequate handles. Orrex Apr 2015 #65

It was fuck that ni@@a. bravenak Apr 2015 #66

He was not insulting him? (I didn't see the video.) merrily Apr 2015 #69

Definately upset that he got handled. More like unsportsmanlike conduct. bravenak Apr 2015 #71

I probably should just stay off threads have anything to do with sports. merrily Apr 2015 #74

No problem. I'm watching the games right now. I love sports. bravenak Apr 2015 #76

Nah, it wasn't an insult. I was there hanging out, smokin out, and being part of an apparent "scene" U4ikLefty Apr 2015 #70

He was saying nigga with an "a" at the end, not an "r" Reter Apr 2015 #82

I didn't say "racist." I said "insult." See my reply 68 please. merrily Apr 2015 #83

Hey, this is another trashed thread! valerief Apr 2015 #37

In translated context he meant, "man, fuck that dude" KeepItReal Apr 2015 #42

that is the way I took it, too. eom. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2015 #51

Signifying a serious lack of class and grace. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2015 #67

Agreed. KeepItReal Apr 2015 #170

So... philosslayer Apr 2015 #93

Let's stick to what actually happened KeepItReal Apr 2015 #169

Amazing, the things that concern you. Starry Messenger Apr 2015 #53

I guess it means a lot more to you than the two men in question. Rex Apr 2015 #58

I thought we were supposed to be called honkies Revanchist Apr 2015 #62

He was not being a good sport or classy, but not particularly because of the N word. merrily Apr 2015 #68

sounds like unsportperson-like conduct. Could see organization keeping player off court KittyWampus Apr 2015 #73

The n word has almost lost its meaning to young people like Harrison LittleBlue Apr 2015 #75

It was the "f" word, not the "n" word, that I found offensive tularetom Apr 2015 #77

In his context, all it means is guy Reter Apr 2015 #79

I just wish that ugly word would go away!!! noella17 Apr 2015 #85

i am sooo offended i don't think he should be able to play for the national championship dembotoz Apr 2015 #87

Interesting thread for you to have started, oberliner Scootaloo Apr 2015 #88

Thanks oberliner Apr 2015 #91

Surely the OP condemned Netanyahu's racist comments about Arabs voting in the Israeli election. Cali_Democrat Apr 2015 #129

I don't think I did oberliner Apr 2015 #146

People have been fired or expelled for less XemaSab Apr 2015 #89

But no star athletes IIRC (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2015 #99

I'm sure that some people around here didn't get what went on there... MrScorpio Apr 2015 #116

Best post of the thread. Lonusca Apr 2015 #167

I like waffles. Katashi_itto Apr 2015 #117

This may come as a shock to some people but "nigga" just means "dude" or "guy" now. PeteSelman Apr 2015 #118

I'm not sure why it's such big news Matrosov Apr 2015 #119

If Harrison is one of those "one-and-done" players. . . DinahMoeHum Apr 2015 #120

.... Number23 Apr 2015 #123

Why do you think it's the worst thread ever? oberliner Apr 2015 #125

The OP was weird at best but a bunch of the responses are what it took it over the cliff Number23 Apr 2015 #131

We should be offended as much as Frank Kaminsky is. egduj Apr 2015 #124

Which is kind of cool if you think about it. NaturalHigh Apr 2015 #148

Eh, who cares? Jocks aren't noted for brains or tact. Warpy Apr 2015 #126

To me, it's context. I would never use the word. riqster Apr 2015 #127

They are saying Nigga... Catherine Vincent Apr 2015 #143

I would say that it was classless in that he said "fuck that guy" in s sense. Inkfreak Apr 2015 #128

I agree. bravenak Apr 2015 #132

Harrison is a fool for saying it. romanic Apr 2015 #130

X+10 840high Apr 2015 #139

I agree with you. nt cwydro Apr 2015 #163

It was no big deal. If he has said "Fuck Kaminski" it would have been about the same. Vattel Apr 2015 #133

I'm not sure everyone is on the right track?? kentuck Apr 2015 #140

he should not have said it but it's not the same thing as a white person saying it to a black person JI7 Apr 2015 #141

He should change his vocabulary Catherine Vincent Apr 2015 #142

No one should use the N word, it is despicable! akbacchus_BC Apr 2015 #144

Sore loser, just like a lot of the other UK players. NaturalHigh Apr 2015 #147

Context is all. Orsino Apr 2015 #151

Just my 2 cents . . . Ms. Yertle Apr 2015 #152

But they get to use that word! Capt. Obvious Apr 2015 #153

My thought is ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #157

Agreed oberliner Apr 2015 #159

With today's youth ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #165

I do empathize with all the other white guys who are pretending to be historically oppressed by this LanternWaste Apr 2015 #158

Never heard of any such people oberliner Apr 2015 #161

The sub-literate often feed on non-issues. LanternWaste Apr 2015 #166

Translation: one_voice Apr 2015 #168

I think I'd take it as a complement chemenger Apr 2015 #172