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KT2000

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90. just a reminder -

Mon Apr 6, 2015, 09:00 PM

Apr 2015

the spraying that is done in your yard enters the air that is breathed by your neighbors. I consider that more of an encroachment than leaves or cardboard boxes.

Ask for the MSDS on the sprays used in your yard - then do not believe the level of hazard noted in the MSDS (they are made up by the legal department). Do your own research.
gyphosate - carcinogen. If they are using commercial grade it is even stronger than consumer grade
hormone mimicking chemicals -= prostate cancer, testicular cancer, breast cancer, ovarian cancer, uterine cancer, endometriosis, impaired brain development in the fetus, neurological disorders in children such as learning disorders.
2,4-D, banned in Europe but not the US.

Know that when your yard is sprayed you have the potential to impair a child's brain, contribute to cancer and immune disorders, affect the health of pets around you etc.
Perfect lawns are toxic.

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city tells father to remove cardboard fort he built for kids in front yard [View all] Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 OP

Ah....yeah that has to go yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #1

I see the authoritarian mindset is strong within you hobbit709 Apr 2015 #2

Whats authoritarian? treestar Apr 2015 #6

There is no mention of an HOA in the article. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2015 #12

If an ordinance is duly passed treestar Apr 2015 #45

"Mindless enforcement" often being little more than "enforcement of regulations I myself dislike..." LanternWaste Apr 2015 #150

There is no HOA involved here jberryhill Apr 2015 #14

I'd make a party out of tearing it down. Invite neighbors, have a grill going. KittyWampus Apr 2015 #23

Replace it every two weeks with new boxes jberryhill Apr 2015 #25

the poster mentioned them treestar Apr 2015 #46

Laws are not written in stone. In an evolved society people are able to be flexible. sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #127

They are close to it treestar Apr 2015 #148

yes i must withstand whatever pile of crap someone decides to pile up in the front yard Romeo.lima333 Apr 2015 #20

you're an authoritarian if you believe all rules must always be followed to the letter of the law hobbit709 Apr 2015 #21

Why is that authoritarian treestar Apr 2015 #47

If you gotta ask you will never know why. hobbit709 Apr 2015 #49

Who gets to break them? treestar Apr 2015 #113

so if someone steals your car you'd be cool with that cause hey rules were made to be broken Romeo.lima333 Apr 2015 #141

Ever been passed by a cop when you were driving 2 or 3 or 5MPH over the limit? A HERETIC I AM Apr 2015 #77

How slight is this? treestar Apr 2015 #114

What do you personally feel justified in doing about it? TampaAnimusVortex Apr 2015 #92

HUH? treestar Apr 2015 #115

Your kidding right? TampaAnimusVortex Apr 2015 #146

We're talking about a cardboard box here treestar Apr 2015 #173

So, because a group of dip-weed pols put something on paper we're supposed to genuflect? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2015 #151

Seriously? treestar Apr 2015 #172

Law passed by elected official or not there is nothing in this incident that merits a response from Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2015 #174

If it violates an ordinance treestar Apr 2015 #176

Laws and whatnot are meant to give us a civil society for the benefit of the people. Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2015 #178

If you want to make your stand over cardboard in a front yard treestar Apr 2015 #180

That's not what an authoritarian is. Advocating adherence to laws arrived at through the democratic process pnwmom Apr 2015 #120

a few days or a week would be ok. let them have their fun Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 #94

Your welcome to have that ugly monstrosity in your yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #52

Why do I get the feeling you're one of those people hobbit709 Apr 2015 #55

Lol. I am very easy going actually yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #57

just a reminder - KT2000 Apr 2015 #90

I have never asked the lawn service what they use yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #97

So the line of work you chose after college was ignorance? jberryhill Apr 2015 #121

It is a company they know what is legal for the state yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #129

Is it legal in your state to smoke cigarettes? Do you smoke them? jberryhill Apr 2015 #160

You take care of your state. I will take care of mine yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #161

The bay waters flow right through the canal in my state jberryhill Apr 2015 #162

I know enough to write a check every month to the company yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #164

Yo, man--you seriously object to trees and leaves? How, exactly, do you get your neighbors... Hekate Apr 2015 #56

No the lawn service takes care of it for me yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #59

How lovely for you. But most families USE their houses and yards for their KIDS... Hekate Apr 2015 #64

Of course I am in a gated community. yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #83

Of course you are. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2015 #98

Most people are. I am not special. yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #102

Me? No. I live in a small old (1885) house on a small lot The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2015 #107

It actually sounds really nice. yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #108

It is, for me; but a HOA would never allow it. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2015 #109

I live in a middle-class, small town neighborhood Bettie Apr 2015 #110

Most people are?!?!? Coventina Apr 2015 #124

Ok 8 million and growing fast yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #133

"I couldn't afford the million dollar homes in the open concept that you live in." Coventina Apr 2015 #152

I thought you did by your posts. yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #153

Wow! I'm super curious! What did you see in my posts that made you think that? Coventina Apr 2015 #154

Most people do not live like that. What the heck are you afraid of that you need a gate and walls? Hekate Apr 2015 #128

There must be an awful lot of folks you don't count as "people," then n/t Scootaloo Apr 2015 #134

I exaggerated. It's 8 million and growing. yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #135

So about 2% of the population. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2015 #165

I know. I know. I fessed up that I exaggerated yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #167

Spraying fertilizer on the lawn is what is bad... Blanks Apr 2015 #76

Yes but we have to have it here. yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #80

It can be done environmentally... Blanks Apr 2015 #86

And don't let anyone get away with that "crab grass" execuse goldent Apr 2015 #87

Thank you so much for the tip yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #96

Happy to help. goldent Apr 2015 #132

I'm curious... haikugal Apr 2015 #177

You're not your. panader0 Apr 2015 #72

Thanks. I always do that typing. yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #79

Oh, you are one of those. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2015 #73

You wouldn't last in my neighborhood yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #78

Wow, a gated community with no trees allowed over the house!! With a guard! panader0 Apr 2015 #85

Lol. Good thing we picked appropriate neighborhoods for each of us yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #95

Our house is about 45 feet high. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2015 #99

Hey you kids! Get off your lawn too! n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2015 #74

So how, exactly, do you propose to stop that tree from shedding its leaves in your yard? The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2015 #75

This one apparently got yelled at too much; A HERETIC I AM Apr 2015 #81

Psychoanylize it. That tree has boundary issues, I can tell. nt Hekate Apr 2015 #131

It is pretty ghastly. alphafemale Apr 2015 #9

Really? Cardboard boxes made into a kid's fort are "ghastly"? Comrade Grumpy Apr 2015 #18

It'd look freaking awesome if it was painted gray with "grout lines" to make it look like real brick KittyWampus Apr 2015 #24

Yes. It is trash. And cardboard attracts cockroaches for another thing. alphafemale Apr 2015 #26

You sound like a lot of fun. panader0 Apr 2015 #71

It's trash. And cardboard is notorious for attracting roaches. alphafemale Apr 2015 #36

Leftover house paint seals and preserves cardboard a treat. I should know. Hekate Apr 2015 #60

Roaches outdoors? That's a new one on me. LiberalElite Apr 2015 #61

I don't know how cold the winter was in Utah this year truebluegreen Apr 2015 #70

If this had been done in the back yard, it's likely no one would have said a word. MADem Apr 2015 #34

It was just a prototype. Some brainstorming with his neighbors and I bet ... Hekate Apr 2015 #136

Yeah. I was thinking he should either move it or rebuild it in the back yard. WillowTree Apr 2015 #42

Yeah 2naSalit Apr 2015 #140

that is why drray23 Apr 2015 #40

That will last until the first good rain and the rain will "melt" the boxes. Let the kids enjoy them shraby Apr 2015 #43

Shush. Gormy Cuss Apr 2015 #48

It's likely to rain or snow there this Wednesday struggle4progress Apr 2015 #50

Seriously Hekate Apr 2015 #66

Really, I was thinking the same thing.. mountain grammy Apr 2015 #88

Oh come on - "every day"?The first good rain and the cardboard turns to soggy mush - problem solved. Kashkakat v.2.0 Apr 2015 #63

Who fucking cares? It's kids having fun. tabasco Apr 2015 #101

I did and live where it would NEVER happen yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #103

Where I live it could happen, and I wouldn't mind. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2015 #111

"You're" n/t tabasco Apr 2015 #170

Ugh....I am trying... yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #171

That was my thought... Bettie Apr 2015 #104

their 'law' he has 15 days and then case closed. in my neighborhood, it's instant fine & 1k a day. Sunlei Apr 2015 #159

No biggie. Let the kids enjoy it for a couple of weeks, Ron Green Apr 2015 #3

IMO you're right treestar Apr 2015 #7

amen demigoddess Apr 2015 #37

Step One: Leave it up for 14 days GreatGazoo Apr 2015 #4

Lets assume there is 10 lbs of cardboard in the fort. 11 Bravo Apr 2015 #41

10 pounds or 1 ton, what's the difference? FSogol Apr 2015 #53

If I was looking to buy a home, it would increase the value - Ms. Toad Apr 2015 #93

Crowdsource the fines and keep it up as long as it stays dry. tridim Apr 2015 #5

What's the harm? It's temporary, he didn't build it with concrete blocks. Avalux Apr 2015 #8

What HOA? jberryhill Apr 2015 #17

Sorry - it was the city not an HOA. n/t Avalux Apr 2015 #19

I'd expect a good rainstorm to take care of the problem in that time... LiberalElite Apr 2015 #62

That's a badass cardboard fort. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #10

Geez...it will probably rain in a day or two anyway. BlueJazz Apr 2015 #11

What's the harm Politicalboi Apr 2015 #13

There's a Gladys Kravitz on every street. hobbit709 Apr 2015 #15

The city is nuts. When I was in kindergarten our school used cardboard boxes to build a child size jwirr Apr 2015 #16

He should have built it in the backyard... joeybee12 Apr 2015 #22

Exactly. The front yard is pretty regulated as far as what you can do for the sake of all eyes. alphafemale Apr 2015 #29

I mean, it's neat that he did it for his kids... joeybee12 Apr 2015 #33

Was he even planning on keeping the fort up for 15 days? JVS Apr 2015 #27

I once installed a whole bunch of kitchen cabinets, all in different sized cardboard boxes. panader0 Apr 2015 #28

That sounds so cool Hekate Apr 2015 #68

yep out back dembotoz Apr 2015 #30

That's just great. Boxes from big appliances are the BEST. nt Hekate Apr 2015 #69

I miss the days when you could go to the loading dock at Sears Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #168

Boo! Hiss! AtomicKitten Apr 2015 #31

town sphincter police LOLOLOLOL KittyWampus Apr 2015 #35

Set this little fella's fort free! AtomicKitten Apr 2015 #39

IT'S BEAUTIFUL!!! Quantess Apr 2015 #32

Be nice to your neighbors - use the backyard MaggieD Apr 2015 #38

There shall be ORDER in that city. Trillo Apr 2015 #44

If he leaves that stuff on his lawn more than a couple days it will kill the grass tularetom Apr 2015 #51

If he lives where it rains, the grass will grow back. Or so I've heard. It never rains in California Hekate Apr 2015 #137

There's no mention of an HOA. This isn't a condo or gated community. Someone griped to the City... Hekate Apr 2015 #54

The first rain storm will take it down. I'd just leave it up for a few days riderinthestorm Apr 2015 #58

The pantie-wadding is strong in this thread. Throd Apr 2015 #65

Frankly, given the state of the world right now..... Smarmie Doofus Apr 2015 #67

Can you say "First World Problem"? I knew you could!! Coventina Apr 2015 #82

send in the SWAT team guillaumeb Apr 2015 #84

I told my realtor to not bother showing us any more homes that had an HOA Contrary1 Apr 2015 #89

Yep, NEVER AGAIN will I EVER have an HOA. Coventina Apr 2015 #91

This isn't a HOA issue, it's a city ordinance. n/t tammywammy Apr 2015 #100

In some cities, the ordinances and the inspectors are almost as bad as HOAs. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2015 #112

You have to wonder if the spread of HOAs has in turn Trillo Apr 2015 #118

I hate them too. alarimer Apr 2015 #143

ahh, HOAs--Lord Acton was wrong: people get crazier the less power they have MisterP Apr 2015 #105

Some of you members forgot what it's like to be a kid johnnysad Apr 2015 #106

exactly. Great dad for building this. maybe he can move it to backyard Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 #116

Not the most... one_voice Apr 2015 #117

Is there a reason they didn't build it in the back yard? Could it be moved there? n/t pnwmom Apr 2015 #119

Yes. Chellee Apr 2015 #126

How disgusting! KMOD Apr 2015 #122

Won't someone PLEASE think of the grumpy old men!! Coventina Apr 2015 #123

seriously!!!! uppityperson Apr 2015 #169

I have not yet read any of the responses to Jenoch Apr 2015 #125

Well, have you read them yet? Chellee Apr 2015 #130

I feel sorry for the kids davidsilver Apr 2015 #138

You don't frighten us, English pig dogs. Go and boil your bottoms, you sons of a silly person. Monk06 Apr 2015 #139

Fetchez la vache!!...nt SidDithers Apr 2015 #142

My HOA was not registered correctly as an HOA when the development Puglover Apr 2015 #144

You lucky, lucky thing... ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #147

Oh believe me. Puglover Apr 2015 #155

Fucking Obama. Orsino Apr 2015 #145

lol treestar Apr 2015 #149

Really cute idea but even knowing it's a "fort" I still think it looks too much like yard trash Mike Daniels Apr 2015 #156

local govs are the most oppressive of all, even on your own land. don't break the leash law for cats Sunlei Apr 2015 #157

I suspect pipi_k Apr 2015 #158

Yet another big difference between being a kid in the 70s/80s and today JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #163

So the city gave it 15 days to rain and render the matter moot. n/t PoliticAverse Apr 2015 #166

I both love it and hate it. Glassunion Apr 2015 #175

The only conclusion I can reach from the OP & some responses... DeadLetterOffice Apr 2015 #179