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Ichingcarpenter

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9. I don't understand either post

Reply to xchrom (Reply #7)

Sat May 5, 2012, 11:16 AM

May 2012

Marx wanted tyrants..... then.... told you so.

OK......LOL.... no wait....still don't get it....

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Karl Marx: 10 great quotes on his birthday [View all] xchrom May 2012 OP

The 10th ,proves he was an existentialist orpupilofnature57 May 2012 #1

K&R Brickbat May 2012 #2

K&R bahrbearian May 2012 #3

If he hadn't lived in England he couldn't have observed Ichingcarpenter May 2012 #4

IIRC, he also put bread on the table by working coalition_unwilling May 2012 #21

i'll give this 1 kick. nt xchrom May 2012 #5

Here's another. Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #74

How about noting just what a horse's ass Karl Marx was. Archae May 2012 #6

... xchrom May 2012 #7

I don't understand either post Ichingcarpenter May 2012 #9

i ribbing him -- because marx was right. xchrom May 2012 #10

Marx's view of human nature is a failure. Archae May 2012 #11

Thanks Archaic never thought I'd have such an understanding Ichingcarpenter May 2012 #13

Name just one success Marx had. Archae May 2012 #14

Unions, women's vote, socialistic Teddy Roosevelt's national parks Ichingcarpenter May 2012 #17

You attribte all those to Marx? former9thward May 2012 #24

130 years after he died, people are posting his ideas on an internet message board, Zorra May 2012 #18

On the internet you will find people posting the ideas of Stalin, Hitler, Lenin and Mao former9thward May 2012 #23

And Marx has nothing in common with any of them Bjorn Against May 2012 #28

Well, I do think Lenin and Marx share the commonality of dialectical materialism. Lenin turned coalition_unwilling May 2012 #79

Alright, I suppose I can accept some similarities with Lenin as far as ideology goes Bjorn Against May 2012 #87

Dialectical materialism and historical materialism only have one outcome, imo. joshcryer May 2012 #95

Thank you, Zorra. hifiguy May 2012 #43

You do realize that he was one of the key founders of modern social science? Bjorn Against May 2012 #32

hahahaha obamanut2012 May 2012 #103

You are so full of shit as to stagger belief. Are you seriously coalition_unwilling May 2012 #20

Every regime you just mentioned is/was bad for the people. UnrepentantLiberal May 2012 #29

I was replying to post #11's general incoherence and coalition_unwilling May 2012 #52

And you would be wrong. But believe whatever you want. UnrepentantLiberal May 2012 #53

Your mere assertion does not make it so. But you believe whatever you want - n/t coalition_unwilling May 2012 #81

Absolutely nothing would convince you. UnrepentantLiberal May 2012 #85

There are no utopias in Marx. He was an analyst of capitalism, not a designer of utopias. HiPointDem May 2012 #35

castro's cuba is a much better place than batista's nt arely staircase May 2012 #49

Not for the pimps and 1%ers (jk :) - n/t coalition_unwilling May 2012 #82

Castro's Cuba has an incarceration rate that rivals the US's. joshcryer May 2012 #94

i am not an apoligist for castro's human rights record arely staircase May 2012 #99

As we watch Cuba slowly return to a free marked economy hack89 May 2012 #97

that's what they said when the USSR collapsed. nt arely staircase May 2012 #100

Without nuclear weapons, Russia would be nothing hack89 May 2012 #107

Russia was held up by the Eastern Bloc which they occupied for decades (Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact). joshcryer May 2012 #111

i think you misunderstood me arely staircase May 2012 #121

Sorry - got it now. nt hack89 May 2012 #122

Cuba is on the verge of political revolution, and Capriles will not cut them off. joshcryer May 2012 #108

So the people of Veneuzula have no say in the matter? hack89 May 2012 #110

Capriles, the likely next President of Venezuela, will be elected by the people. joshcryer May 2012 #112

"Gattungswesen" is not "human nature." Marx's view of "human nature" was fine. joshcryer May 2012 #93

How do you expect to get there, then? white_wolf May 2012 #109

You go around capitalism. joshcryer May 2012 #113

Actually, Marx was most definitely NOT a Utopian. OrwellwasRight May 2012 #114

Fatally wrong. hifiguy May 2012 #41

I don't disagree w/ you. Nt xchrom May 2012 #45

Oh yeah, things are SOOOO different now.......... socialist_n_TN May 2012 #16

What was the true intent and philosophy of Karl Marx? scatalogical May 2012 #26

what was marx chief aim? scatalogical May 2012 #30

Engels was stated as saying Marx was a "monster" ??? LAGC May 2012 #38

If so, I'm sure the comment was completely taken out of context. white_wolf May 2012 #44

from the sources I have read scatalogical May 2012 #63

Source that, please. white_wolf May 2012 #64

Post removed Post removed May 2012 #65

Seriously? white_wolf May 2012 #66

A bit unsettling isnt it? scatalogical May 2012 #67

The only thing unsettling is that you actually seem believe it. white_wolf May 2012 #68

whether I choose to believe it does not really matter. scatalogical May 2012 #70

Where are the article's citations? Bjorn Against May 2012 #78

The authoritative source is "Moody Church Media Ministries". lol. HiPointDem May 2012 #86

Wow how could you find a more authoritive source than Moody Church Media Ministries! Bjorn Against May 2012 #90

Moody is crazy obamanut2012 May 2012 #104

Yeah, Christian dominionist garbage is pretty unsettling to find on a democratic chatboard. HiPointDem May 2012 #88

the sources you've read like fake quotes. as i already demonstrated re the "monster" quote. HiPointDem May 2012 #83

I find no such quote in the most complete database of Marx/Engels work that exists. HiPointDem May 2012 #51

Marx was a 'reactionary'????? Hunh???? You might want coalition_unwilling May 2012 #19

Not everyone can be a furry. nt. Starry Messenger May 2012 #25

The very first sentence of your main post discredits you. white_wolf May 2012 #31

"The very first sentence of you main post discredits you" - LOL. apocalypsehow May 2012 #36

Is that all you've got? white_wolf May 2012 #39

He was certainly right about what was wrong then and now eridani May 2012 #91

That word doesn't mean what you think it means obamanut2012 May 2012 #101

K & R. snagglepuss May 2012 #8

k&r Starry Messenger May 2012 #12

marx was a terrible prognosticator (history not being a science but a humanity) arely staircase May 2012 #15

Entire university faculties of history will take issue with your coalition_unwilling May 2012 #22

and i would humbly disagree wih each and every one arely staircase May 2012 #27

Well, I was mainly joking, but typically history is coalition_unwilling May 2012 #50

oh i read everything from feminist social historians to traditional military historians arely staircase May 2012 #54

Yes, indeed they do. janx May 2012 #48

his prognostications being? HiPointDem May 2012 #56

that the failures of capitalism and class arely staircase May 2012 #58

that's one prognostication. nothing to say about any others? HiPointDem May 2012 #59

not at the arely staircase May 2012 #60

um, because there were some preconditions....and preconditional prognostications? HiPointDem May 2012 #69

ok, well give me some arely staircase May 2012 #73

don't want to give you anything, just sounding you out on marx's prognostications. you sounded HiPointDem May 2012 #76

so no interest in enlightening me? arely staircase May 2012 #77

you claimed marx's prognostications failed. just wanted to see what you were talking about. HiPointDem May 2012 #80

and you asked for an example, i gave you one and asked for contrary examples and you had nothing. arely staircase May 2012 #98

i didn't ask for "examples", i asked: "his prognostication*s* being?" so no, it doesn't. HiPointDem May 2012 #106

and you still have nothing nt arely staircase May 2012 #118

and you never had anything but what you read in the mainstream media -- other people HiPointDem May 2012 #119

and given your reluctance (or inability) to enlighten us arely staircase May 2012 #120

you made the claim. i asked you to back it up. you can't, you just have boilerplate. HiPointDem May 2012 #123

lol nt arely staircase May 2012 #124

lol yourself. you don't know bupkis about marx or his prognostications. HiPointDem May 2012 #125

K&R Odin2005 May 2012 #33

why do you guys have be to so disrespectful josephslaton May 2012 #34

Post #11 represents ignorance, shrillness and slander, all coalition_unwilling May 2012 #84

Great discussion steve2470 May 2012 #37

Wasn't Napoleon always painted like that? white_wolf May 2012 #40

I think he was, yes nt steve2470 May 2012 #42

That was a usual pose then obamanut2012 May 2012 #105

Not only did Lincoln and Marx correspond, hifiguy May 2012 #46

I celebrate Marx's, Lennons, Socrates and Jeffersons's birth Ichingcarpenter May 2012 #47

Socrates Cave and the Communist Manifesto orpupilofnature57 May 2012 #55

Wasn't the cave Plato's idea? white_wolf May 2012 #57

yes it was arely staircase May 2012 #61

It's all Plato mathematic May 2012 #62

Materialist ???? Behaviorist orpupilofnature57 May 2012 #96

you've got nothing to lose but a DURec, comrade. KG May 2012 #71

You forgot..... whistler162 May 2012 #72

What I first noticed lordsummerisle May 2012 #75

K&R....n/t unkachuck May 2012 #89

I loves me my Marxist fire department. eridani May 2012 #92

Note this is from the Christian Science Monitor, not Pravda obamanut2012 May 2012 #102

No thanks, not going to celebrate Marx usregimechange May 2012 #115

His analysis of capitalism is being proven true everyday... white_wolf May 2012 #116

k/r Dawson Leery May 2012 #117