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Tsiyu

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86. There are studies indicating some medical benefits

Sat May 5, 2012, 01:00 PM

May 2012

from moderate ingestion of alcohol.

There is a mammoth pile of evidence that cannabis relieves or minimizes the pain and other symptoms of various diseases and treatments.

Cannabis activists have changed laws in almost a third of the states.

The federal government - along with many judgmental, authoritarian voters - has its head up its ass on this issue.

Some are arguing for full legalization, as it should be. They want the War on a Plant ended completely. That is their right, whether it pesters you or not.

Others merely want the ability to use it as treatment legally and/or to grow it and/or hemp for industrial use. That's the least an intelligent society can do for the sick and for the farmer (considering we import all hemp products now and we allow pharmco to sell cannabisish shit), yet many defend criminalizing the sick and denying the farmer until the free access side frames the argument in such a way that you find personally acceptable.

How cruel and petty and self-absorbed can you get!

Land of the free doesn't cut it for you, I see, but you are the one who perhaps is missing the boat.

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Marijuana is not a single-issue issue. [View all] RadiationTherapy May 2012 OP

rec SammyWinstonJack May 2012 #1

by that measure just about all single issues aren't single issues. cali May 2012 #2

That's correct. Life and philosophy and industry and politics are all interconnected webs. RadiationTherapy May 2012 #6

In that sense, I agree with you, and I am one who criticized someone yesterday.... Scuba May 2012 #13

Yes, I also will vote for Obama despite his MJ philosophy RadiationTherapy May 2012 #20

+1 Scuba May 2012 #21

+1 freshwest May 2012 #38

I think that's the position for most people RainDog May 2012 #33

I'm curious about what Obama has said on the issue. The Doctor. May 2012 #83

I agree on all points. Autumn May 2012 #3

REC, def. REC fuddyduddy May 2012 #4

Thank you. Well said. n/t DLevine May 2012 #5

Yes it is treestar May 2012 #7

This isn't a "legalize drugs" post. RadiationTherapy May 2012 #8

It will rapidly become a 'legalize drugs' thread. randome May 2012 #17

Except for the ridiculous number of lives ruined, this is a minor issue. Fumesucker May 2012 #22

I agree. eggplant May 2012 #29

No argument here, either. randome May 2012 #32

Can you explain the logic JackInGreen May 2012 #48

I'm not on anyone's side on this issue. randome May 2012 #57

You might want to double check your statement that marijuana has not been in use as long as alcohol Bjorn Against May 2012 #59

I agree its use should not be criminalized. randome May 2012 #67

You do not have to smoke mj roody May 2012 #66

I am aware of that. randome May 2012 #82

You have no study to back up this claim Tsiyu May 2012 #84

Tell the 858,408 who were prosecuted for it in 2009 how minute an issue it is. bluedigger May 2012 #11

Ask that student who got locked up and tortured for four days if he thinks this is Hissyspit May 2012 #25

'Tortured'? randome May 2012 #31

Yes, I'm sure if that had happened to you obxhead May 2012 #36

Hyperbole never helps a discussion. randome May 2012 #40

drinking one's own urine to stay alive feels more like torture than hyperbole DisgustipatedinCA May 2012 #47

Not to continually counter you JackInGreen May 2012 #49

No umbrage is taken. randome May 2012 #58

You make it sound MORE macabre by trying to minimize it. This is a PERSON'S LIFE. Romulox May 2012 #41

Um, yeah. Hissyspit May 2012 #44

He spent 5 days in the hospital recovering Aerows May 2012 #52

you might want to read up on the effects of dehydration.. frylock May 2012 #61

right stupidicus May 2012 #62

It's only a single issue if someone makes it one. MineralMan May 2012 #9

I live in Humboldt County, California... mike_c May 2012 #10

the funny thing is that if weed is legalized Mosby May 2012 #26

oh yeah, we have a strong local contingent opposing legalization... mike_c May 2012 #28

big 'ol fuckin' Rec. KG May 2012 #12

Hear, hear! K&R nt Mnemosyne May 2012 #14

I couldn't agree with you more. My observation is that there are no "single issue" issues, only WheelWalker May 2012 #15

My reason for legalizing hemp... Javaman May 2012 #16

Also . . . Richard D May 2012 #34

perhaps when oil becomes less available... Javaman May 2012 #43

Excellent framing! patrice May 2012 #18

k to the r frylock May 2012 #19

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2012 #23

Thank you! I am sure that this in backlash Bennyboy May 2012 #24

+1 K&R. n/t Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #27

I am not sure from where it is coming, but it sounds like RadiationTherapy May 2012 #30

I saw that.... fascisthunter May 2012 #60

Thank you RT felix_numinous May 2012 #35

People who say that are really saying they favor the War on Drugs. It's passive aggressive. Romulox May 2012 #37

K&R Vidar May 2012 #39

Lets not forget Dokkie May 2012 #42

Thank you, Dokkie duhneece May 2012 #46

I apologize for forgetting such a critical part of the picture. Dammit. RadiationTherapy May 2012 #53

That's about as sucienctly and efficiently as you can put it. Reptilublican May 2012 #45

Agreed, but it's not a make or break when it comes to supporting President Obama. n/t cynatnite May 2012 #50

Definately not. blackspade May 2012 #56

He's still the lesser of evils - but he's definitely evil (corrupt) on this issue. polichick May 2012 #77

Hear, hear!! intheflow May 2012 #51

+1000 blackspade May 2012 #54

I respect this opinion.... dhood8083 May 2012 #55

Marinol, Big Pharms's Expensive drug with synthetic cannabis ingredients.. crunch60 May 2012 #63

Thanks for that info. polichick May 2012 #76

I Question The Integrity Of The Data In That Link ProfessorGAC May 2012 #89

K & R Better Believe It May 2012 #64

This seems like it contains many logical fallacies. HuckleB May 2012 #65

Frankly, I think . . . caseymoz May 2012 #68

There are studies indicating some medical benefits Tsiyu May 2012 #86

A third of the states, huh? caseymoz May 2012 #88

okay Tsiyu May 2012 #90

K&R! countryjake May 2012 #69

K&R SunSeeker May 2012 #70

yep. nt limpyhobbler May 2012 #71

Election year donations are needed from the liquor Industry... lib2DaBone May 2012 #72

Let me be clear on my Waahhhh thread---one more time. trumad May 2012 #73

Imagine you had put up an OP saying Waaah! about anti choice, forced birth policies.. Fumesucker May 2012 #74

The thread was actually locked by a host... trumad May 2012 #75

Yes, I'm aware of that now.. Fumesucker May 2012 #78

"Imagine you put up an OP" all you want to but the fact remains... stlsaxman May 2012 #79

I'd be interested in your opinion regarding an OP of mine.. Fumesucker May 2012 #80

Welp- it would be hard to put it better than Bonobo did... stlsaxman May 2012 #81

Are people supposed to ignore the amazing level of hypocrisy and lack of self reflection? Fumesucker May 2012 #87

Very well put. Thank you. n/t 99Forever May 2012 #85