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WillTwain

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35. I would love to see the list.

Thu Apr 16, 2015, 04:21 PM

Apr 2015

Reached out to Cuba - wow.

Reached out to Iran i like every other democratic president.

Healthcare was inevitable and may have been stronger if Hillary won in 2008.

He got Bin Laden - thanks but isis is rolling along.

For the most part your big four will be footnotes in history - except healthcare.

On the other hand, poverty is up, wages are down, Social Security is under attack, healthcare is still too expensive for many and did little for the 85% that have health care coverage from jobs.

ACA is great but far from finished - the Heritage Foundation designed it so it is still way behind Europe.

Overall, this is not greatness. Check out Lincoln, FDR, Teddy, Washington, Jefferson and LBJ if you want to see greatness.

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Obama's Biggest Flaw [View all] WillTwain Apr 2015 OP

apologists have questioned whether "we knew" repukes would destroy the country via obstructionism Skittles Apr 2015 #1

Agreed, it is their history, every act they ever did was to stop progress. WillTwain Apr 2015 #2

Remember Newt Gingrich? PrefersaPension Apr 2015 #24

How about Tom Delay? WillTwain Apr 2015 #25

This started in 1994. WillTwain Apr 2015 #50

+1,000 n/t Admiral Loinpresser Apr 2015 #52

"Crayons and Condeleeza. " So true. bravenak Apr 2015 #3

I see your point and partially agree. WillTwain Apr 2015 #5

True. I'm known to jump up on chairs and get crazy with people. When they deserve it, of course. bravenak Apr 2015 #7

Have you ever considered running for office? WillTwain Apr 2015 #9

Maybe after I go back to school next fall. I have thought about it and decided I need a degree. bravenak Apr 2015 #10

Go for it. WillTwain Apr 2015 #12

History will beat up Republicans. WillTwain Apr 2015 #8

I don't think the Prez can do jack about the wealth gap, personally. bravenak Apr 2015 #11

We disagree, WillTwain Apr 2015 #13

his greatest flaw is that he's overconfident samsingh Apr 2015 #4

He may have over-estimated the general public, giving him too much confidence. WillTwain Apr 2015 #6

absolutely - but the reality is that the public is not that smart samsingh Apr 2015 #14

Which only makes it more confusing that he does not understand WillTwain Apr 2015 #16

I don't know. that would mean that he actually believed in 2008 that he would Doctor_J Apr 2015 #15

Insisting was never in his DNA. WillTwain Apr 2015 #17

You don't get to be president of the United States by being modest. Marr Apr 2015 #19

He has an intact ego but it was not from coming up the hard way. WillTwain Apr 2015 #21

He's Not RobinA Apr 2015 #26

Laid back is not a good thing for a president- makes a great surfer or professor. WillTwain Apr 2015 #30

I agree. So many of the people who defend him seem to think Marr Apr 2015 #18

Was his campaigning dishonest or simply not backed with guts born of passion WillTwain Apr 2015 #20

He picked the team that made up those meetings. Marr Apr 2015 #22

I am not freeing him from blame, but the team was sort of picked for him. WillTwain Apr 2015 #23

I Tend RobinA Apr 2015 #28

That is very true. WillTwain Apr 2015 #31

Obama will be considered one of the great Presidents... Mike Nelson Apr 2015 #27

Above average but no way great. WillTwain Apr 2015 #29

Um, wrong. MuttLikeMe Apr 2015 #32

Why? WillTwain Apr 2015 #33

He killed bin laden MuttLikeMe Apr 2015 #34

I would love to see the list. WillTwain Apr 2015 #35

It's greatness to me - and a lot of other people MuttLikeMe Apr 2015 #36

It's above average (B-) to me - and many others. WillTwain Apr 2015 #37

That's cool. Time will ultimately tell, though. MuttLikeMe Apr 2015 #38

Ridiculous, I am darker than him. WillTwain Apr 2015 #39

Nah. That ain't ridiculous. MuttLikeMe Apr 2015 #40

Well, you can always blame it on that Doctor_J Apr 2015 #42

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I know. We shouldn't have anymore black presidents for that reason. MuttLikeMe Apr 2015 #44

Man, do not go there. Who the hell said we shouldn't have anymore black presidents. Same old crap. WillTwain Apr 2015 #45

Calm down, man. MuttLikeMe Apr 2015 #48

I am sooooooooo tired of the racial references every time someone dares to question Obama. WillTwain Apr 2015 #49

The Affordable Care Act is the most important piece of social policy since the Great Society. (nt) Skinner Apr 2015 #51

Nobody is arguing that. WillTwain Apr 2015 #53

Actually, the person I was replying to did in fact argue... Skinner Apr 2015 #54

I think denying it is equally laughable. WillTwain Apr 2015 #55

Baucus controlled ACA becasue Baucus was the chair of Senate Finance. Skinner Apr 2015 #56

Heritage Care is a debacle, and that's a very kind assessment of it Doctor_J Apr 2015 #57

"Debacle" is a strange word for something that is working... Skinner Apr 2015 #58

comparing the VRA, CRA, Medicare and Medicaid to the heritage foundation health insurance Doctor_J Apr 2015 #60

And a lot of people still think Smirk was a great president. Doctor_J Apr 2015 #41

I think he isa darn fine president, but that isn't how he will be viewed Cosmocat Apr 2015 #63

That is a flaw on domestic issues only eridani Apr 2015 #46

Absolutely, The rest of the world is normal - no baggers. WillTwain Apr 2015 #47

This thread is Solomon Apr 2015 #59

I don't like how he favors business leaders over union leaders. What happened to the community liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #61

Obama's problem is that he's too stable? Cali_Democrat Apr 2015 #62

He didn't assume shit Cosmocat Apr 2015 #64

That's right, Cosmocat.. "he didn't squander shit his first two years". Thank you. Cha Apr 2015 #65

So you are saying you have no flaws or that the POTUS should be a perfect human being? Rex Apr 2015 #66