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Babel_17

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Fri Apr 17, 2015, 06:47 PM

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Fast Track Bill Would Legitimize White House Secrecy and Clear the Way for Anti-User Trade Deals [View all] Faryn Balyncd Apr 2015 OP

'Chief Transparency Officer' seems pretty 1984ish. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #1

It certainly is. Faryn Balyncd Apr 2015 #2

I just wish the defenders would choose between "this is good for American workers" and djean111 Apr 2015 #3

What about Paul Krugman who basically says, "Meh."? randome Apr 2015 #5

We have been running that race to the bottom now for a while zeemike Apr 2015 #7

They sure do seem to vacillate between those two memes a lot, don't they? Populist_Prole Apr 2015 #26

Nothing "liberal" about this, dgibby Apr 2015 #35

it's the same group that insists, "Hillary is really liberal", and "of course she's not Doctor_J Apr 2015 #67

I expected better of people who write for a living. randome Apr 2015 #4

It's trying to put in place many ways to bypass what our founders had intended for passing treaties cascadiance Apr 2015 #8

Well said. n/t fasttense Apr 2015 #12

I would vote Punx Apr 2015 #22

Yet you can't state WHY it's a bad bill. randome Apr 2015 #23

W Post: Trans-Pacific Partnership treaty will help neither workers nor consumers Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #47

Do you think Treaties are, or have been, worked out by Congress? ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #27

Or how I learned to stop worrying and love the TPP. zeemike Apr 2015 #10

The negotiations are secret for the same reason the Iran nuclear deal was secret. randome Apr 2015 #20

But that's un-democratic ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #30

Sure. Everything our government does should be put up for a vote. randome Apr 2015 #56

So moved. Is there a second? ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #60

Exactly. If we had told the other 11 parties to the TPP negotiations that our Congress Hoyt Apr 2015 #34

So our congress is the enemy because they might raise issues zeemike Apr 2015 #40

I sometimes think Congress IS the enemy, at least the Conservative part of it. randome Apr 2015 #58

I think you are confused. More Republicans than Democrats are supporting Obama pushing the TPP... cascadiance Apr 2015 #61

So then, why is OK for corporations to have a hand in writing this but LondonReign2 Apr 2015 #42

It isn't okay, from my point of view. randome Apr 2015 #53

And for that matter environmental groups should also be involved too... cascadiance Apr 2015 #62

WE don't get to see it until FOUR years after it is passed!!! Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #11

No, that four year secrecy regards the negotiations that led to the agreement. randome Apr 2015 #16

OOPS your wrong we don't have to listen to you make stuff up anymore Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #46

Thanks for that link Babel_17 Apr 2015 #64

You seem like a rose colored glasses kind of person. lark Apr 2015 #14

'Astronomically' is a big word in terms of meaning. randome Apr 2015 #18

Yeah, tell me how we've benefited by NAFTA? lark Apr 2015 #21

Obama described the TPP as a 're-write' of NAFTA to address those concerns. randome Apr 2015 #24

Described? lark Apr 2015 #25

Exactly. If Congress doesn't like some portion, they just say No, and Obama either Hoyt Apr 2015 #28

True ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #32

I'm really surprised people aren't getting this. It's really depressing and doesn't bode well for Hoyt Apr 2015 #33

Your right ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #36

The Republican party is in favor of universal wage floors, universal working condition protections, Fumesucker Apr 2015 #38

Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #39

Yes, and you've "decided" to support the same treaty that Republicans and Corporations support LondonReign2 Apr 2015 #43

Where have I said anything approaching, "I support the TPP"? ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #45

It's going to be like owning a patent Fumesucker Apr 2015 #48

Who said I favored the TPP? 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #49

AFL-CIO: "TPP Job Claims Earn 4 Pinocchios!" : Faryn Balyncd Apr 2015 #41

Question ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #44

When the track record is that of "trade" agreements not delivering on their promises, Faryn Balyncd Apr 2015 #50

Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #51

when will it be "released to the public for approval"? and how does "the public" go about ND-Dem Apr 2015 #29

The same way we approve or disapprove of anything -through our representatives. randome Apr 2015 #52

i see: when it comes to an up or down vote, that's the first we'll here of this thousands ND-Dem Apr 2015 #65

To Piss on the People. TPP.n/t jtuck004 Apr 2015 #6

It's definitely not a traditional "Toilet Paper Party" cascadiance Apr 2015 #9

There is no real trade reason for Obama to be pushing this ghastly deal fasttense Apr 2015 #13

"Who is he paying back with this?" MissDeeds Apr 2015 #15

That's what I want to know also. liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #17

Penny Pritzer? n/t dgibby Apr 2015 #37

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Apr 2015 #19

Well, at least we can dispense with the BS that the text won't be released to the public. Hoyt Apr 2015 #31

YOU said it...PLEASE post the document for us all to read then Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #54

The TPP document says the NEGOTIATING documents should not be declassified, of course they were. Hoyt Apr 2015 #55

From the USTR Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #59

Huh? Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #57

No offense, but the naysayers are only mostly convincing Babel_17 Apr 2015 #63

K&R n/t OhioChick Apr 2015 #66

K&R woo me with science Apr 2015 #68