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jimmy the one

(2,708 posts)
Sat Apr 18, 2015, 11:37 AM Apr 2015

Will you vote for Hillary, gun control advocate? [View all]

Many democrat gun enthusiasts have admonished democrat politicians who support gun control, often saying or suggesting or implying that they would not vote for such a person if they were running in their own district. Or that democrat politicians and the democrat party are somewhat doomed for taking on gun control positions.
How does this rationale sit with election 2016 & Hillary Clinton? presuming Hillary is heiress presumptive to the democrat nomination, will her gun control stance affect your 2016 vote against a surely far more 'pro gun' republican nominee? (third party candidates, regrettably, deemed negligible for this poll, but use your discretion).

Some background: Hillary Clinton lashed out at opponents of gun control regulations, saying they hold a viewpoint that “terrorizes” the majority of Americans. “We cannot let a minority of people, and that’s what it is, it is a minority of people, hold a viewpoint that terrorizes the majority of people,” http://time.com/2891821/hillary-clinton-2016-gun-control/

lapierre-head: I vow on this day the NRA will stand shoulder to shoulder with you and good, honest decent Americans and we will stand and fight with everything we've got and in 2016, by God, we will elect the next great president of the United States of America and it will not be Hillary Rodham Clinton,” Mr LaPierre said.

As Hillary Clinton mulls running for president in 2016, she has been careful to shy away from broad, sweeping policy declarations. But not when she delivered harsh criticism of gun culture in America and denounced the idea that "anybody can have a gun, anywhere, at any time." Clinton didn't dispute Americans' right to own guns. But she said access to guns in the US had grown "way out of balance." "We've got to rein in what has become an almost article of faith that anybody can have a gun anywhere, anytime..".

Gun rights groups have long considered Mrs. Clinton their foe. Her 2000 Senate campaign centered on a push to keep guns off the streets, and she was a forceful advocate of creating a national gun registry.. as she faced off against Barack Obama in the Democratic primary, she positioned herself as more conservative than him on gun control. She backed off the proposal for a national registry..


As presumed Democrats here on the Democrat Underground, will you or won't you vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016? .. expound upon your reasoning if you wish. I know it's an 'unscientific internet poll', just amongst ourselves, could be interesting.


15 votes, 0 passes | Time left: Unlimited
I WILL vote for presumptive nominee Hillary, no matter what
5 (33%)
I WILL vote for Hillary, despite her gun control advocacy
0 (0%)
I will ABSTAIN from voting, due her gun control position
0 (0%)
I DON'T KNOW if I will vote for her or not, due gun control issue
0 (0%)
I will NOT vote for Hillary, due her gun control position
1 (7%)
I will NOT vote for Hillary, for other reasoning
9 (60%)
Prefer not to answer
0 (0%)
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I am a Democratic Party animal madokie Apr 2015 #1
This is the reason why fake Dems as Hilarry still run. darkangel218 Apr 2015 #3
Umm... Cirque du So-What Apr 2015 #5
Me too. I believe that the Democratic party best represents my views OKNancy Apr 2015 #9
Belief is for religion and I am not going to believe in a candidate DrKZ Apr 2015 #29
I'm a pretty smart older woman, and no newbie OKNancy Apr 2015 #34
I will never ever ever vote for Hillary. Not in a million years. darkangel218 Apr 2015 #2
Why are you on DU, again? pintobean Apr 2015 #7
Why dont you ask other DUrs beside UnrepentedLiberal ,if they want my phone number, darkangel218 Apr 2015 #10
Why are you on DU, again? pintobean Apr 2015 #14
Seriously??? darkangel218 Apr 2015 #16
You have my number and admitted to asking UnrepentedLiberal if he wants it. darkangel218 Apr 2015 #23
* pintobean Apr 2015 #44
Yah, an *., Because you got caught in the lie. darkangel218 Apr 2015 #47
* pintobean Apr 2015 #52
Lolol!! darkangel218 Apr 2015 #55
Point out my lie pintobean Apr 2015 #63
Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #65
2 years ago, you told me you had changed it pintobean Apr 2015 #68
So why dont you just admit to what you did? darkangel218 Apr 2015 #72
I didn't alert on you pintobean Apr 2015 #88
it is DA drama Kali Apr 2015 #71
Stay out of it, kali. darkangel218 Apr 2015 #74
Hey, wake up call, this isn't junior high. MoonRiver Apr 2015 #75
Wake up call for you to mind your damn bussiness. darkangel218 Apr 2015 #77
You really do think way too highly of yourself. MoonRiver Apr 2015 #78
stop posting about it every chance you get Kali Apr 2015 #76
Youre the one acting "stupid". darkangel218 Apr 2015 #80
yes, I send strangers my phone number and then whine about it every chance I get Kali Apr 2015 #83
because she is on "time out" at DI Kali Apr 2015 #62
Im here because ive been a paying member for years and i have a right to be here. darkangel218 Apr 2015 #69
what a crock Kali Apr 2015 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Apr 2015 #46
... Kali Apr 2015 #51
Go try to flamebait someone else. darkangel218 Apr 2015 #59
oh sorry Kali Apr 2015 #64
Not sure, darkangel218 Apr 2015 #66
change the subject much? Kali Apr 2015 #42
We are not there yet. darkangel218 Apr 2015 #48
Ooooo, that is so upsetting and important, MoonRiver Apr 2015 #49
Exactly my thought. nt darkangel218 Apr 2015 #50
Glad you have some self insight. MoonRiver Apr 2015 #53
It aplies to everyone, not just me. Im not special. darkangel218 Apr 2015 #56
I question your motives for being here then madokie Apr 2015 #87
I will not be voting for Hillary (nt) bigwillq Apr 2015 #4
Will you be leaving DU if she is the nominee? leftofcool Apr 2015 #17
No. bigwillq Apr 2015 #35
Do you have an issue with an all-Republican federal government? okasha Apr 2015 #45
My vote will not matter bigwillq Apr 2015 #58
I may disagree with her on gun policies... NutmegYankee Apr 2015 #6
Ban all guns! PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #8
You know that is presently impossible, don't you? hack89 Apr 2015 #20
I don't do pledges. 99Forever Apr 2015 #11
She'll make a good Prez. Her stance against gun yahoos is a bonus. Hoyt Apr 2015 #12
I hope she will be a gun control advocate. sufrommich Apr 2015 #13
I really hope Hillary doesn't win the nomination, but if she does Quackers Apr 2015 #15
Ok. Bye. Good luck finding that fantasy land where all your wishes come true. misterhighwasted Apr 2015 #18
Well hello Mr. Snarky! Quackers Apr 2015 #21
HAAHA. No. Snark at all. You say you will leave, go ahead. misterhighwasted Apr 2015 #33
Thanks for the ignore. Have a nice day! Quackers Apr 2015 #43
Then all the people who support her are Republicans too treestar Apr 2015 #27
I agree with you DrKZ Apr 2015 #30
Not at all! Quackers Apr 2015 #31
Oh noes! onehandle Apr 2015 #36
Me? I'm just a registered voter. So basically no one of importance to Hillary. Quackers Apr 2015 #40
If eight years of Obama did not erode my gun rights hack89 Apr 2015 #19
Dems are not coming for your guns but repukes are damn sure coming for your Social Security leftofcool Apr 2015 #22
They are both coming for our Social Security, they just have different ideas on how TheKentuckian Apr 2015 #24
That is why I am a Dem. nt hack89 Apr 2015 #32
I think gun control, pro or con, is pretty pintobean Apr 2015 #25
There's a paragraph from The New Yorker that I think really sums up the gun debate here on DU Electric Monk Apr 2015 #54
It's an opinion piece pintobean Apr 2015 #57
Of course. I just think it was well said, and the evidence is, well, all around us. nt Electric Monk Apr 2015 #61
She is not presumptive heiress; she has supporters treestar Apr 2015 #26
She'll say whatever her media gurus and focus group pollsters tell her to say tularetom Apr 2015 #28
perhaps hillary never did shoot a gun, kerry/gore did jimmy the one Apr 2015 #89
I will vote for the Democratic nominee BainsBane Apr 2015 #37
Gee, I went to a GD gun discussion, and a purge broke out! Eleanors38 Apr 2015 #38
Not in the primary. Iggo Apr 2015 #39
Gun rights are important to me metalbot Apr 2015 #60
"Democrat" Underground? "democrat politicians"? Why the RW tags, jimmy? nt Hekate Apr 2015 #67
Glad others caught that. Pretty obvious tell tale sign that something is amiss. nt stevenleser Apr 2015 #90
Your use of "Democrat" appears to be taken from right wing Republican talking points. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2015 #70
have a nice day jimmy the one Jun 2015 #94
Gun control isn't even on my radar. Feron Apr 2015 #73
I am a one issue voter liberal N proud Apr 2015 #79
I try to tell my Friends who are against gun control, your guns orpupilofnature57 Apr 2015 #81
What's a "Democrat" Gun Enthusiast? brooklynite Apr 2015 #82
A politician trying to woo . orpupilofnature57 Apr 2015 #84
Needs another choice Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #85
Yes, I will vote for Hillary Clinton. NaturalHigh Apr 2015 #86
"democrat politicians and the democrat party" yuiyoshida Apr 2015 #91
I will vote for the Democratic nominee. Period. Full stop. 11 Bravo Apr 2015 #92
I will vote for the Democratic nominee but am undecided in the primary BainsBane May 2015 #93
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