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pampango

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28. By asking us if we prefer there to be dictators across north Africa so that desperate refugees can
Mon Apr 20, 2015, 08:38 PM
Apr 2015

be prevented from attempting to cross the Mediterranean and either drowning or, more likely, becoming refugees in Western countries which increases the popularity of the far-right, anti-immigrant political parties.

Friendly dictators, like Gaddafi, do a good job of controlling their countries and preventing unseemly things like throngs of refugees from Syria, Sudan, Nigeria, etc. from escaping their suffering. Friendly dictators have been a staple of American foreign policy for decades. I would hope we can one day transition away from that policy.

Gaddafi was being paid quite handsomely by the EU to prevent immigrants from transiting through Libya. And he gave them their money's worth. He was quite good at stopping refugees. I suppose Europeans knew that the departure of Gaddafi would start the flow of refugees again.

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Perhaps no more than you need to explain on why this question was ask. Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #1
Much better to have Gadaffi kill a few at a time? brooklynite Apr 2015 #3
How do you know they weren't isis troublemakers? n/t betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #10
How do you know they were? FarPoint Apr 2015 #22
why do we have any obligation to support wars in other countries we betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #23
+1000 Truth is, we need to use the military stuff we have, not "waste" the trillions. libdem4life Apr 2015 #25
They are mostly Libyan and Syrian refugees. betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #2
Benghazi!!!1!1 tritsofme Apr 2015 #4
Yes, her enabling of the neocons did nothing to stop them making up betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #7
Could you provide a list of the neocons she enabled? DURHAM D Apr 2015 #14
Start with Victoria Nuland and Robert Kagan. betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #15
Okay. I get it. DURHAM D Apr 2015 #24
I don't get you? betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #33
google it DURHAM D Apr 2015 #36
when was the kidnapping outed as fraud ? JI7 Apr 2015 #6
It was the Sunnies not the Shias. betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #9
It didn't fuel anything JI7 Apr 2015 #12
It fuelled our rush to arm the socalled "Syrian moderates" betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #13
wrong. the 'Arab Spring' movement was ongoing , quadrature Apr 2015 #16
Syria was already a war zone when Engel was kidnapped JI7 Apr 2015 #19
but we hadn't funded the "Syrian opposition" betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #21
Without American weaponry these two movements would have gone nowhere betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #20
Oh FFS... SidDithers Apr 2015 #8
the libyan bombings are a real fuckup betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #11
Seriously. FSogol Apr 2015 #18
Uh huh. zappaman Apr 2015 #17
Don't you mean? BainsBane Apr 2015 #26
Really? FFS! hrmjustin Apr 2015 #27
By asking us if we prefer there to be dictators across north Africa so that desperate refugees can pampango Apr 2015 #28
This sounds like RW logic. DCBob Apr 2015 #29
Only to people who confuse notions of left and right with partisan needs n/t betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #30
Odd how some people don't see a connection from the NATO actions in Libya to a refugee crisis... Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #31
There is a personal stake in not connecting the dots. n/t betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #35
She can always point out the pressure from the GOP like McCain, Graham, Cruz and others. kelliekat44 Apr 2015 #32
Maybe true, but McCain lost so Obama and Hillary betterdemsonly Apr 2015 #34
FOX says "What's done is done " and Kucinich isn't running jakeXT Apr 2015 #37
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