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Gothmog

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48. I will be happy to be wrong on this and see Bernie raise a great deal of money

Thu Apr 30, 2015, 03:36 PM

Apr 2015

I do not support Citizens United and think that the process is broken. However, we are stuck with this system and our nominee will neeed to raise over $one billion to be viable in November. That will likely involve super pacs and big money. Even President Obama's money machine was not sufficient in 2012 without super pacs and President Obama was one of the best fundraisers in the history of the Democratic Party.

Where the money comes from may be important in a theoritical sense but all money is fungible and the reality of the currrent system is that vast sums will be needed

Time will tell but I am very skeptical about Bernie's ability to raise the needed funds

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If Bernie wins the Democratic nomination, how do you gauge his chances of winning the general? [View all] MrScorpio Apr 2015 OP

The Country Is Breaking At The Seams - The Time For Change Is Now cantbeserious Apr 2015 #1

You have noticed that half the country votes Republican pretty much every election? brooklynite Apr 2015 #14

And the Republicans seem to be steady voters ... JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2015 #35

you mean half the country that even bothers to vote, votes republican. m-lekktor Apr 2015 #45

And when we had a dynamic candidate like Barack Obama, voting spiked.....to 57% brooklynite Apr 2015 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author cantbeserious Apr 2015 #18

Against the current Republican clown car, no contest. joshcryer Apr 2015 #2

if he wins the nomination i think he would win the general JI7 Apr 2015 #3

I think nomination will be the biggest challenge. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #4

I think it is too early and there are too many potential variables, to prognosticate. Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #5

Yup. Agschmid Apr 2015 #37

slim but not impossible gwheezie Apr 2015 #6

I personally like and admire Bernie but do not think that he could be viable Gothmog Apr 2015 #7

And by doing so, they prove Bernie's point. smokey nj Apr 2015 #23

Bernie may win the point but he will still lose the election Gothmog Apr 2015 #41

You don't know how much money Bernie's going to raise smokey nj Apr 2015 #42

I will be happy to be wrong on this and see Bernie raise a great deal of money Gothmog Apr 2015 #48

Depends somewhat on the GOP nominee.... Adrahil Apr 2015 #8

#3 madokie Apr 2015 #17

He would represent real change but would have the entire establishment Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #9

Maybe 'even'. He might have a shot. A big part of the issue is the Democratic Party KittyWampus Apr 2015 #10

No chance Renew Deal Apr 2015 #11

I'm thinking McGovern 1972.....a 49 state loss leftofcool Apr 2015 #30

McGovern was running against an incumbent Art_from_Ark May 2015 #49

It's his message madokie Apr 2015 #12

I think it's really early to be able to tell gollygee Apr 2015 #13

Less than "even", but more than "not likely at all" Recursion Apr 2015 #15

Hillary will be stronger this time TBF Apr 2015 #16

I like him and will probably vote for him in the primary davidpdx Apr 2015 #19

Did you even read the question? n/t Dawgs Apr 2015 #21

Yeah I did davidpdx Apr 2015 #32

Bernie is a populist that sticks to his message. Dawgs Apr 2015 #20

Very likely. H2O Man Apr 2015 #22

Not likely. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #24

How does someone win when... Chemical Bill Apr 2015 #25

I don't see him winning the presidenncy or the nomination. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #26

He'll make mincemeat of the talking points the Rs employ... Orsino Apr 2015 #27

It depends on how many Democrats don't vote for him in the general... kentuck Apr 2015 #28

"Very Likely" fredamae Apr 2015 #29

If people GET. THEIR. ASSES. OUT. AND. VOTE. Triana Apr 2015 #31

+1 Daniel537 Apr 2015 #43

I love him, but I'm not seeing his path to victory. Starry Messenger Apr 2015 #33

One should never rule out an implosion. joshcryer May 2015 #54

Nothing can be taken for granted any more nt fadedrose May 2015 #65

It depends on how dedicated and effective we are at getting Zorra Apr 2015 #34

Depends on who the other side picks in their primary n/t JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #36

All things being equal to what they are today? Around 25%. nt stevenleser Apr 2015 #38

It's up to Bernie to work for our votes. NCTraveler Apr 2015 #39

Senator Sanders will also get a large share of republican votes... TheProgressive Apr 2015 #40

Bernie can mobilize the Millenial vote far better than Hillary Cosmic Kitten Apr 2015 #44

If he can somehow get the nod he can win. PeteSelman Apr 2015 #47

If anything shows how out of touch with reality some DUers are oberliner May 2015 #50

Sanders is a top contender. joshcryer May 2015 #52

Ladbrokes lists 12 Democratic candidates with better odds oberliner May 2015 #53

It's been a day. joshcryer May 2015 #55

Get your money down while the odds are so good! oberliner May 2015 #57

I'll somewhat agree with Starry. joshcryer May 2015 #59

There are other websites where they felt this way about Ron Paul oberliner May 2015 #60

In the highly unlikely event Hillary imploded ... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #64

I think he could win get the red out May 2015 #51

We're about to find out. Enthusiast May 2015 #56

Kick Omaha Steve May 2015 #58

I have been to this rodeo quaker bill May 2015 #61

I think he has a better chance of winning the general than winning the primary. Vinca May 2015 #62

It depends a couple of things.. fadedrose May 2015 #63