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Bonobo

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38. I suppose it is in a way.

Thu Apr 30, 2015, 09:42 PM

Apr 2015

But my opinion is that that is a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Many said that a Black man with a Muslim name could not win.

Am I right?

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Wow! DU finally decided that bashing Democratic pres candidates might not be the best thing to do! [View all] DanTex Apr 2015 OP

It's amazing people can argue that with a straight face BainsBane Apr 2015 #1

I agree...I like Bernie...but zealotry turns me off...nt joeybee12 Apr 2015 #2

"zealotry turns me off" Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #9

Same here. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2015 #10

Considering the nutjobs for the republicans that cstanleytech Apr 2015 #90

Yup. Agschmid Apr 2015 #91

Seriously. DanTex Apr 2015 #8

"..lose their heads." is right. Top of the page.. ".. big heaping STFU.." And, that racist graphic Cha Apr 2015 #35

Who made a racist graphic? /NT DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #41

It was pointed out to us in another thread in GD that got locked for being meta.. only the Cha Apr 2015 #63

I could definitely say the same of Hillary Fumesucker Apr 2015 #11

I haven't seen that BainsBane Apr 2015 #15

I'm not sure collateral damage is really the best phrase to use regarding the Iraq war Fumesucker Apr 2015 #21

The Press is so important that it is enshrined in the Constitution. They have a responsibility equal Hekate Apr 2015 #39

Wanna make that claim an OP and see where it goes? Fumesucker Apr 2015 #43

Why, to play mud pies with you? It's not as much fun as you think. nt Hekate Apr 2015 #55

It's an interesting Constitutional interpretation that I haven't encountered before Fumesucker Apr 2015 #67

No hyrocrisy there. Some of us put things in perspective. We can't pretend like she had the okaawhatever Apr 2015 #31

What do you think would happen if I went on that thread and defended Miller? Fumesucker Apr 2015 #40

Not the same thing. If you believe Miller didn't know the truth when she was writing it then okaawhatever Apr 2015 #75

Another innocent victim cruelly taken in by the ever wily and smooth talking Dubya Fumesucker Apr 2015 #82

LOL nt okaawhatever Apr 2015 #84

yeah. tone changed when du focused on bernie Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 #3

There will be more. More voices make us stronger. onehandle Apr 2015 #4

The weird thing is I always thought the people bashing Obama 24/7 were secret Clinton loyalists. ucrdem Apr 2015 #5

You've got that right. It makes one wonder about their real motives. nt Hekate Apr 2015 #42

Trust me it's not over Andy823 Apr 2015 #6

The bashing will stop for a bit in the General.. I can't wait! Cha Apr 2015 #37

Well, define "democratic candidate" and you have your answer. nt Logical Apr 2015 #7

It's Democratic BainsBane Apr 2015 #12

I am glad you mentioned the Populist Candidate Sen Sanders. rhett o rick Apr 2015 #13

rhett, did you know Bernie Sanders has 100% ratings by both NARAL and HRC? nt Zorra Apr 2015 #14

Where? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #16

Right there. With your post. DanTex Apr 2015 #18

Actually I was pointing out that it goes both ways, and it's only to be expected. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #22

Like the OP that tells Sanders supporters NuclearDem Apr 2015 #27

What an absurd OP. woo me with science Apr 2015 #17

Yes that list is what I'm talking about. DanTex Apr 2015 #19

I won't call foul. I expect you to say such things. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #23

Actually, no I don't want to depress votes for Bernie. I'm glad he's running. DanTex Apr 2015 #24

If he can win the nomination, he can win the general. Ditto for anyone else who can win the primary. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #25

Well, no, that's not true. But since he can't win the primary, it's a moot point. DanTex Apr 2015 #26

+ a kabillion. nt Mojorabbit Apr 2015 #29

+1. "When you buy a hat like this I bet you get a free bowl of soup. Oh, but it looks great on you." GoneFishin Apr 2015 #69

This n/t Oilwellian Apr 2015 #94

hmm. PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #20

I am also pleased at this change of heart Gothmog Apr 2015 #28

Go Bernie! cherokeeprogressive Apr 2015 #30

Boink. Scurrilous Apr 2015 #32

Actually bashing them without justification is what is bad. Bonobo Apr 2015 #33

How about the truth that Bernie can't win a national election against the GOP. DanTex Apr 2015 #36

I suppose it is in a way. Bonobo Apr 2015 #38

I wish I had the power to make self-fulfilling prophecies about presidential politics. DanTex Apr 2015 #46

He had power only because he was given the place in the Democratic Convention. Bonobo Apr 2015 #48

OK, but he in fact was given that place. And he was far ahead of Bernie at this time 8 years ago. DanTex Apr 2015 #50

Anyway, whatever. Bonobo Apr 2015 #52

Yes, shifting politics back to the left is a good reason to support Bernie. DanTex Apr 2015 #54

+1 -I think the are both correct statements. nt Bonobo Apr 2015 #58

It is not the truth. It's a hunch on your part Generic Other Apr 2015 #44

Well said. nt Bonobo Apr 2015 #47

Who said anything about usurping a throne? Except you? DanTex Apr 2015 #49

I don't want to vote for someone with "cross-party" appeal Generic Other Apr 2015 #53

And I don't want a Republican president. DanTex Apr 2015 #57

Then don't vote for one with a D by their name Generic Other Apr 2015 #86

Oh goodie. Enjoy the next GOP administration. nt Hekate Apr 2015 #62

xactly - i'm for Bernie. 840high Apr 2015 #89

It is a hunch, or worse, a seed being planted. I am impervious to those mind games. I will vote GoneFishin Apr 2015 #68

Sorry, truth is based in facts, not in guesses and gut feelings. jeff47 Apr 2015 #59

No that is an opinon tiredtoo Apr 2015 #65

It would be nice to tout the candidates of our choice... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #34

Also, false equivalence. Bonobo Apr 2015 #45

True. For example, "Bernie can't win the GD" isn't bashing, it's basic reality. DanTex Apr 2015 #51

Again, an ounce of truth to your post... Bonobo Apr 2015 #56

"Bernie can't win" is truthful. Weren't you all about the truth a few posts ago? DanTex Apr 2015 #60

I don't agree it is true. nt Bonobo Apr 2015 #66

No, it's your opinion. jeff47 Apr 2015 #61

How is acknowledging that Bernie can't win "tearing him down"? DanTex Apr 2015 #64

Why couldnt he win? davidn3600 Apr 2015 #70

For starters, he's a self-described socialist, and he doesn't have the fundraising capacity. DanTex Apr 2015 #72

Secondly, do we know he really wants to? ucrdem Apr 2015 #73

It is "tearing down" because it currently has no facts to back it up. jeff47 Apr 2015 #71

Of course there are facts to back it up. DanTex Apr 2015 #74

Golly, it's almost like I specifically addressed those. jeff47 Apr 2015 #76

Yeah, but you were wrong. He won't even come close to winning the primary. You'll see. DanTex Apr 2015 #79

Electability isn't measurable. jeff47 Apr 2015 #80

It's estimatable, though. Like I said, you'll see. DanTex Apr 2015 #85

The rationale behind his candidacy is not compelling. ucrdem Apr 2015 #87

Unfortunately the bashing won't end soon. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #77

There is nothing about Bernie Sanders' policies or actions to "bash," as you call it. Jamastiene Apr 2015 #78

DU rec...nt SidDithers Apr 2015 #81

The DU!!!!!!!!!! Rex Apr 2015 #83

It's fine to hold Democrats ozone_man Apr 2015 #88

+1 840high Apr 2015 #92

I wont object to Bernie but we should be asking all of the candidates on what they plan to do cstanleytech Apr 2015 #93

Locking thread. TexasTowelie Apr 2015 #95