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jeff47

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61. No, it's your opinion.

Thu Apr 30, 2015, 10:06 PM

Apr 2015

At the moment, there isn't any evidence to back it up. The closest we could get to evidence is polling, and this far from an election polling is wrong far more often than it is right.

If you are so interested in elevating the debate, you would be doing so instead of tearing down a candidate you do not like.

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Wow! DU finally decided that bashing Democratic pres candidates might not be the best thing to do! [View all] DanTex Apr 2015 OP

It's amazing people can argue that with a straight face BainsBane Apr 2015 #1

I agree...I like Bernie...but zealotry turns me off...nt joeybee12 Apr 2015 #2

"zealotry turns me off" Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #9

Same here. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2015 #10

Considering the nutjobs for the republicans that cstanleytech Apr 2015 #90

Yup. Agschmid Apr 2015 #91

Seriously. DanTex Apr 2015 #8

"..lose their heads." is right. Top of the page.. ".. big heaping STFU.." And, that racist graphic Cha Apr 2015 #35

Who made a racist graphic? /NT DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #41

It was pointed out to us in another thread in GD that got locked for being meta.. only the Cha Apr 2015 #63

I could definitely say the same of Hillary Fumesucker Apr 2015 #11

I haven't seen that BainsBane Apr 2015 #15

I'm not sure collateral damage is really the best phrase to use regarding the Iraq war Fumesucker Apr 2015 #21

The Press is so important that it is enshrined in the Constitution. They have a responsibility equal Hekate Apr 2015 #39

Wanna make that claim an OP and see where it goes? Fumesucker Apr 2015 #43

Why, to play mud pies with you? It's not as much fun as you think. nt Hekate Apr 2015 #55

It's an interesting Constitutional interpretation that I haven't encountered before Fumesucker Apr 2015 #67

No hyrocrisy there. Some of us put things in perspective. We can't pretend like she had the okaawhatever Apr 2015 #31

What do you think would happen if I went on that thread and defended Miller? Fumesucker Apr 2015 #40

Not the same thing. If you believe Miller didn't know the truth when she was writing it then okaawhatever Apr 2015 #75

Another innocent victim cruelly taken in by the ever wily and smooth talking Dubya Fumesucker Apr 2015 #82

LOL nt okaawhatever Apr 2015 #84

yeah. tone changed when du focused on bernie Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 #3

There will be more. More voices make us stronger. onehandle Apr 2015 #4

The weird thing is I always thought the people bashing Obama 24/7 were secret Clinton loyalists. ucrdem Apr 2015 #5

You've got that right. It makes one wonder about their real motives. nt Hekate Apr 2015 #42

Trust me it's not over Andy823 Apr 2015 #6

The bashing will stop for a bit in the General.. I can't wait! Cha Apr 2015 #37

Well, define "democratic candidate" and you have your answer. nt Logical Apr 2015 #7

It's Democratic BainsBane Apr 2015 #12

I am glad you mentioned the Populist Candidate Sen Sanders. rhett o rick Apr 2015 #13

rhett, did you know Bernie Sanders has 100% ratings by both NARAL and HRC? nt Zorra Apr 2015 #14

Where? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #16

Right there. With your post. DanTex Apr 2015 #18

Actually I was pointing out that it goes both ways, and it's only to be expected. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #22

Like the OP that tells Sanders supporters NuclearDem Apr 2015 #27

What an absurd OP. woo me with science Apr 2015 #17

Yes that list is what I'm talking about. DanTex Apr 2015 #19

I won't call foul. I expect you to say such things. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #23

Actually, no I don't want to depress votes for Bernie. I'm glad he's running. DanTex Apr 2015 #24

If he can win the nomination, he can win the general. Ditto for anyone else who can win the primary. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #25

Well, no, that's not true. But since he can't win the primary, it's a moot point. DanTex Apr 2015 #26

+ a kabillion. nt Mojorabbit Apr 2015 #29

+1. "When you buy a hat like this I bet you get a free bowl of soup. Oh, but it looks great on you." GoneFishin Apr 2015 #69

This n/t Oilwellian Apr 2015 #94

hmm. PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #20

I am also pleased at this change of heart Gothmog Apr 2015 #28

Go Bernie! cherokeeprogressive Apr 2015 #30

Boink. Scurrilous Apr 2015 #32

Actually bashing them without justification is what is bad. Bonobo Apr 2015 #33

How about the truth that Bernie can't win a national election against the GOP. DanTex Apr 2015 #36

I suppose it is in a way. Bonobo Apr 2015 #38

I wish I had the power to make self-fulfilling prophecies about presidential politics. DanTex Apr 2015 #46

He had power only because he was given the place in the Democratic Convention. Bonobo Apr 2015 #48

OK, but he in fact was given that place. And he was far ahead of Bernie at this time 8 years ago. DanTex Apr 2015 #50

Anyway, whatever. Bonobo Apr 2015 #52

Yes, shifting politics back to the left is a good reason to support Bernie. DanTex Apr 2015 #54

+1 -I think the are both correct statements. nt Bonobo Apr 2015 #58

It is not the truth. It's a hunch on your part Generic Other Apr 2015 #44

Well said. nt Bonobo Apr 2015 #47

Who said anything about usurping a throne? Except you? DanTex Apr 2015 #49

I don't want to vote for someone with "cross-party" appeal Generic Other Apr 2015 #53

And I don't want a Republican president. DanTex Apr 2015 #57

Then don't vote for one with a D by their name Generic Other Apr 2015 #86

Oh goodie. Enjoy the next GOP administration. nt Hekate Apr 2015 #62

xactly - i'm for Bernie. 840high Apr 2015 #89

It is a hunch, or worse, a seed being planted. I am impervious to those mind games. I will vote GoneFishin Apr 2015 #68

Sorry, truth is based in facts, not in guesses and gut feelings. jeff47 Apr 2015 #59

No that is an opinon tiredtoo Apr 2015 #65

It would be nice to tout the candidates of our choice... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #34

Also, false equivalence. Bonobo Apr 2015 #45

True. For example, "Bernie can't win the GD" isn't bashing, it's basic reality. DanTex Apr 2015 #51

Again, an ounce of truth to your post... Bonobo Apr 2015 #56

"Bernie can't win" is truthful. Weren't you all about the truth a few posts ago? DanTex Apr 2015 #60

I don't agree it is true. nt Bonobo Apr 2015 #66

No, it's your opinion. jeff47 Apr 2015 #61

How is acknowledging that Bernie can't win "tearing him down"? DanTex Apr 2015 #64

Why couldnt he win? davidn3600 Apr 2015 #70

For starters, he's a self-described socialist, and he doesn't have the fundraising capacity. DanTex Apr 2015 #72

Secondly, do we know he really wants to? ucrdem Apr 2015 #73

It is "tearing down" because it currently has no facts to back it up. jeff47 Apr 2015 #71

Of course there are facts to back it up. DanTex Apr 2015 #74

Golly, it's almost like I specifically addressed those. jeff47 Apr 2015 #76

Yeah, but you were wrong. He won't even come close to winning the primary. You'll see. DanTex Apr 2015 #79

Electability isn't measurable. jeff47 Apr 2015 #80

It's estimatable, though. Like I said, you'll see. DanTex Apr 2015 #85

The rationale behind his candidacy is not compelling. ucrdem Apr 2015 #87

Unfortunately the bashing won't end soon. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #77

There is nothing about Bernie Sanders' policies or actions to "bash," as you call it. Jamastiene Apr 2015 #78

DU rec...nt SidDithers Apr 2015 #81

The DU!!!!!!!!!! Rex Apr 2015 #83

It's fine to hold Democrats ozone_man Apr 2015 #88

+1 840high Apr 2015 #92

I wont object to Bernie but we should be asking all of the candidates on what they plan to do cstanleytech Apr 2015 #93

Locking thread. TexasTowelie Apr 2015 #95