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In reply to the discussion: Pope Francis To Send Out Priests To Forgive The 'Sin' Of Women Who Have Had Abortions [View all]PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)98. So... You're saying they have no power in our legislative process? BS
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120399270
When Religion Collides With Legislative Process
But the bishops' conference still has clout. One big reason is its power over the church infrastructure. In Washington parlance, that would be the grass tops that influence the grass roots.
Late last month, the conference sent out nearly 19,000 notices for church bulletins that Sunday. They said that without strong anti-abortion language, Catholics should oppose the health care bill.
"Very few religions have the type of lobby machine that the United States Conference of Bishops have," says Jon O'Brien, president of Catholics for Choice. O'Brien says polls consistently show that a majority of Catholics are more liberal on reproductive issues than the conference is.
"Sometimes religious leaders are given a free pass, and it's as though we don't ask, 'Who do you represent, and is what you're saying factually correct?' " O'Brien says.
When Religion Collides With Legislative Process
But the bishops' conference still has clout. One big reason is its power over the church infrastructure. In Washington parlance, that would be the grass tops that influence the grass roots.
Late last month, the conference sent out nearly 19,000 notices for church bulletins that Sunday. They said that without strong anti-abortion language, Catholics should oppose the health care bill.
"Very few religions have the type of lobby machine that the United States Conference of Bishops have," says Jon O'Brien, president of Catholics for Choice. O'Brien says polls consistently show that a majority of Catholics are more liberal on reproductive issues than the conference is.
"Sometimes religious leaders are given a free pass, and it's as though we don't ask, 'Who do you represent, and is what you're saying factually correct?' " O'Brien says.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/1069406
A group of men with no real background in law or medicine, but blessed with a strong personal interest in womens bodies, have quietly influenced all of the major anti-abortion legislation over the past several years. The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops may be one of the quietest, yet most powerful lobbies on Capitol Hill, with political allies that have enabled them to roll back decades of law and precedent.
Over the past two years the GOP-controlled House of Representatives has launched one of the most extreme assaults on women's choice the U.S. has seen in decades. Republicans voted twice to slash federal family planning funds for low-income women, moved to prevent women from using their own money to buy insurance plans that cover abortion, introduced legislation that would force women to have ultrasounds before receiving an abortion and, most recently, passed a bill that will allow hospitals to refuse to perform emergency abortions for women with life-threatening pregnancy complications.
http://www.salon.com/2014/09/14/how_the_catholic_church_masterminded_the_supreme_courts_hobby_lobby_debacle/
How the Catholic Church masterminded the Supreme Courts Hobby Lobby debacle
It was the Catholic Church, more specifically the U.S. Catholic bishops conference, that largely engineered Hobby Lobby to block the legitimization of contraception as a standard health insurance benefita last ditch effort to prevent by law what it couldnt prevent from the pulpit: women from using birth control.
The Catholic bishops interest in conscience clauses that would allow employers to opt out of reproductive health care services began in earnest in the late 1990s, with the increased viability at the state and national levels of contraceptive equity measures designed to ensure that health plans covered prescription contraceptives like the Pill just like other prescription medications. For years, insurers had omitted contraceptives from prescription drug plansthe only entire class of drugs routinely and explicitly excludedwhich made womens out-of-pocket medical expenses some 70 percent higher than mens. Measures to ensure contraceptive equity had been stalled by male legislators and social conservatives who asserted that employers and insurers shouldnt be forced to pay for what they called a lifestyle choice, not a health care need. Despite that fact that nearly all women use contraceptives at some point in their lives98 percent, according to government surveysand that at any given moment two-thirds of women of child-bearing age are using a contraceptive method, the implication was that fertility management was frivolous or immoral and that other people shouldnt be forced to pay for it.
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Pope Francis To Send Out Priests To Forgive The 'Sin' Of Women Who Have Had Abortions [View all]
okaawhatever
May 2015
OP
It's odd. There's no acknowledgment of it being a two-way street, at all.
Arugula Latte
May 2015
#143
Yeah, it's RUDE and OBNOXIOUS to mock believers, but the reverse is not true at all.
Arugula Latte
May 2015
#147
Deflection is all you have, I guess. Your position is indefensible after all
Lordquinton
May 2015
#71
"no one - and I do mean no one - is the least bit interested in what DU has to say about anything"
beam me up scottie
May 2015
#92
Since one of the more contentious threads tonight was about insulting religious figures...
backscatter712
May 2015
#14
Fuck the pope and fuck everyone who tells me I have to respect his beliefs.
beam me up scottie
May 2015
#15
"The Church doesn't get to dictate what is or is not a constitutional right in this country."
beam me up scottie
May 2015
#40
He wants to restrict our rights to abortion and birth control. Talk about infringing on freedom!
Arugula Latte
May 2015
#57
Look at these assholes testifying in front of Congress against birth control ... Makes me sick:
Arugula Latte
May 2015
#111
"How the Catholic Church masterminded the Supreme Court’s Hobby Lobby debacle"
beam me up scottie
May 2015
#85
Nope, I said the Church spends millions lobbying against our rights.
beam me up scottie
May 2015
#89
Oh, I understand it. They are bullies who try to stomp all over the minority.
PeaceNikki
May 2015
#150
Forgiving the women he accused of committing "horrific" crimes against their children
beam me up scottie
May 2015
#136
but but but they don't hire corporate lobbying firms so it clearly means nothing.
PeaceNikki
May 2015
#120
Only an evil institution would say such slanderous things about an abused woman.
Dawson Leery
May 2015
#54
Do you have any links to articles about that period? I am very interested in what happened in Spain
StevieM
May 2015
#119
I once scooped a fetus out of a toilet after a friend miscarried while...going.
Solly Mack
May 2015
#70
Maybe we should all save our used pads/tampons etc and mail them to the pope.
beam me up scottie
May 2015
#72
I really think the organization that has spent hundreds of millions defending child abusing priests
Warren DeMontague
May 2015
#93
That's awful. I'm so sorry that happened to her and thousands of other women.
PeaceNikki
May 2015
#102
They absolutely used to. My grandfather was excommunicated for divorce in the late 40's.
PeaceNikki
May 2015
#118
Lots of DUers who claim to be Pro Choice and Pro equality have loudly endorsed this man.
Bluenorthwest
May 2015
#104