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nadinbrzezinski

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36. Ah, that explains it

Tue May 12, 2015, 10:54 PM

May 2015

the republicans who hate this with a passion are

1.- Our Libertarian isolationist types (Rand Paul, many members of the Tea Party, who barely realize their reasons are actually solid, and sound a tad like Ross Perot)

2.- Populist (Mike Huckabee)

You almost need a score card to keep track of who is who in the zoo. These Republicans, a good 1\3 in the House, and a few in the Senate, though Rand Paul voted for Cloture... his father would not I suspect, tend to agree that TTP is really bad as many Progressives do, but the agreement is superficial. It is for very different reasons. The isolationists types would like to go to 1939 in some respects.

The business faction (which still dominates in the US Senate) wants this like a bad dream.... or a dream paved in donations from the usual suspects.

My husband and I joke that we need a program, know your players, KNOW YOUR PLAYERS, get some popcorn... you cannot tell the players without a program!!!

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Hope so. PowerToThePeople May 2015 #1

How did it die? brooklynite May 2015 #2

I thought it was the Senate that voted against it notadmblnd May 2015 #3

It was the Senate Nite Owl May 2015 #23

I see. Thanks notadmblnd May 2015 #24

Not against the agreement; against the Trade Promotion Authority to negotiate the agreement brooklynite May 2015 #29

While do not know enough to support or oppose the TPP ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #38

What is this magical 'otherwise good trade agreement' of which you speak? X_Digger May 2015 #42

Not sure what your are talking about, 1SBM doxyluv13 May 2015 #52

I'm talking about with Fast Track being voted down ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #64

Thanks for clarifying doxyluv13 May 2015 #65

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Already a compromise in the works... TDale313 May 2015 #8

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I had read a possible deal... TDale313 May 2015 #22

Good. Let it die an ignominious death in Japan. Art_from_Ark May 2015 #60

Thank you. Jeezus. Iliyah May 2015 #12

Its not dead. DCBob May 2015 #4

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Not dead by a long shot, although I wish it were. TDale313 May 2015 #6

Yeah, fast track = extra constitutional authority pipoman May 2015 #20

Was this the vote on "fast track"? pipoman May 2015 #7

Yes, it was. TDale313 May 2015 #10

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They will compromise Iliyah May 2015 #14

It was a procedural vote, it is not dead nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #13

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I am just pointing the procedure nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #17

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Pro-trade Senate Democrats temporarily stood with Reid in a procedural battle tritsofme May 2015 #19

credible? willing accomplice to international corporations is more likely nt msongs May 2015 #21

Against the will of their constituents? Their very vocal pipoman May 2015 #25

The death of TPA has been greatly exaggerated. tritsofme May 2015 #27

Elimination of the extra constitutional fast track authority pipoman May 2015 #34

Fast track is in no way "extra constitutional," this is is incorrect. tritsofme May 2015 #44

You mean a credible voice at the operating table Elwood P Dowd May 2015 #30

It deserves to die Elwood P Dowd May 2015 #26

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You really want to read a thousand page novel these folks worship and recommend? Elwood P Dowd May 2015 #31

Yes Iliyah May 2015 #32

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Ah, that explains it nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #36

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I know what he said nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #40

I guess you do hate it. It shows where your loyalities lie. Elwood P Dowd May 2015 #37

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With the repukes and corporate DINOs. Elwood P Dowd May 2015 #43

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Its insulting to true Democrats and Progressives that some of our own are in bed with Elwood P Dowd May 2015 #46

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Pointing out the obvious is insulting? Elwood P Dowd May 2015 #48

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Why do you suppose it's classified? A Little Weird May 2015 #50

You got it. Elwood P Dowd May 2015 #56

Its not dead.. Jesus Malverde May 2015 #35

From what I have read, today's vote was on Fast Track Authority for the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #51

Pretzel logic. delrem May 2015 #53

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You sincerely want to see it signed into law, first! delrem May 2015 #55

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It's your OP!!!! delrem May 2015 #58

It's not dead. After a few tweaks it will pass. n/t Lil Missy May 2015 #59

Yes. It's still very likely the TPP will pass. nt Yorktown May 2015 #63

The 99% living in countries that trade with us are just as opposed to TPP eridani May 2015 #61

That would require critical thinking. What you are seeing is magical thinking of some sort, djean111 May 2015 #62