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In reply to the discussion: Yesterday was a deal breaker for me. [View all]jeff47
(26,549 posts)59. Ah yes, that bullshit. It's not in the TPP.
In fact, it's supposed to be what derailed "fast track". Yet it is not in the new "fast track" legislation. Instead there's a separate bill for it, which will fail to pass the Senate.
Also, limiting the power of China while building markets in Vietnam and some other countries are other pluses.
There is nothing in the TPP that limits the power of China. In fact, the TPP allows US corporations to boost the power of China in Vietnam - The TPP makes it easier for US capital to build a factory in Vietnam to sell goods to China.
Overall, it is better for the global economy, and thus the economy of the US, if the economies of poorer countries are expanded into new markets.
Again, there are already no significant trade barriers to the economies in the TPP. We already have free trade agreements with 80% of the "GDP" covered by the the TPP.
About 12% of the remaining is Japan, which has a whopping 1.2% tariff on US goods. If you want to claim 1.2% is crippling trade, you're going to have to explain how sales taxes aren't crippling the economy within the US.
That leaves 8% over the remaining 8 countries. Or 1% of the total GDP per country. Numbers that small are not going to do shit for US exports. "We exported 5,000 widgets to South Korea, but now we can export an additional 3!!"
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'the whole rotating villains theory' a perfect way to describe what we have been watching
sabrina 1
May 2015
#42
You can't look at votes and read a lot into it for many of them. Like the way they get their
brewens
May 2015
#77
I know what you mean- i was ready to compromise at May 13, but May 14? Just too high.
el_bryanto
May 2015
#3
The redstate poster you linked to was complementing Democrats for rejecting fast track on Tuesday,
pampango
May 2015
#22
Sorry. Just saw the date and went for it. It's hard to find stories on yesterday's reversal.
Ed Suspicious
May 2015
#32
Since hockey uses a puck rather than a ball, I can only assume you're referring to the team doctors
alcibiades_mystery
May 2015
#79
Thanks, it is a good day. A break from rain is always good, its fun to walk in wet grass!
Sunlei
May 2015
#24
After failure to secure 60 votes to stop debate on fast track authority on TPP....
ieoeja
May 2015
#38
Because the only thing in the world that matters is making sure there is no TPP!!!
MohRokTah
May 2015
#33