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Kelvin Mace

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60. Hmmmm

Thu May 14, 2015, 04:22 PM

May 2015

excoriate : to censure scathingly

I have criticized her actions as:

"unwise and tactless"

"a public communication lacking tact, sensitivity and compassion,"

"she DID do something to get herself into this mess

"People who do not want public censure should not make a public ass of themselves."

I also compared her actions to people who post stupid things on Facebook and then are surprised when it isn't well received.

Which statement counts as scathing censure?

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About that violinist on the derailed train many were so quick to pillory. . . [View all] markpkessinger May 2015 OP

Thank you for this very good post, Mark. K&R. n/t CaliforniaPeggy May 2015 #1

I do NOT approve of mob cyberviolence Kelvin Mace May 2015 #2

Sure, blame the victim... TreasonousBastard May 2015 #4

Once upon a time Kelvin Mace May 2015 #9

Once upon the time she would have used the telegraph nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #10

Yes, she might have used the telegraph to inquire about her violin Kelvin Mace May 2015 #31

And this penchant for public censure nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #33

People who do not want public censure Kelvin Mace May 2015 #49

Alas you are nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #50

Umm, I have no Twitter account Kelvin Mace May 2015 #51

You are excoriating her actions here nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #54

Hmmmm Kelvin Mace May 2015 #60

I think you hit for the cycle there... PCIntern May 2015 #63

Quite a bit of what you are doing here nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #67

Yeah, why the hell does everyone act like tweeting and Facebook is their LIFE? Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #23

There is actually a clear divide nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #34

They treated her like the classic yuppie joke... Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #44

classic. aikoaiko May 2015 #48

it wasn't an outburst. It was a polite tweet to AMTRACK. Not the rescuers. The business. KittyWampus May 2015 #68

Sarcasm is now considered being polite? Kelvin Mace May 2015 #79

Poor choice of words. phil89 May 2015 #25

Actually you should. nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #35

people are willing to make their thoughts public internet-wide Skittles May 2015 #12

Agreed Kelvin Mace May 2015 #32

How self-righteous rjsquirrel May 2015 #62

It was probably extremely valuable AnnieBW May 2015 #130

I agree, Kelvin Mace May 2015 #137

i understand she also wrote it not long after the crash JI7 May 2015 #3

Those that used this as an opportunity to attack are the ones disrespecting the dead. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #45

I know, right? People who don't understand what it's like to be in a deadly train accident kcr May 2015 #84

The ones that are the WORSE are the ones claiming to be speaking for some hypothetical flower.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #85

Again. You are so right. kcr May 2015 #89

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words May 2015 #5

Hersh comes to mind. Jesus Malverde May 2015 #8

As I posted in that other thread nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #6

Thank you, Nadin . . . markpkessinger May 2015 #11

Thank you for your perspective. F4lconF16 May 2015 #16

+1. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #26

I am fine with that but why not make an apology? Weird of her. nt Logical May 2015 #75

You do realize that like many women nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #76

Run out of town? She closed her account. And an apology on that account..... Logical May 2015 #103

Nope I have no doubt that if she were a man nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #105

Need some examples of men getting fired over tweets? nt Logical May 2015 #111

Apples and rocks nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #113

You send examples but don't want any back? Typical. nt Logical May 2015 #115

Yes U4ikLefty May 2015 #7

A few years back I was rear ended in my car bluestateguy May 2015 #13

+1 n/t markpkessinger May 2015 #14

I was coming back on a trip on my SUV Unknown Beatle May 2015 #15

Ms. Kim didn't "demand" her violin back either . . . markpkessinger May 2015 #17

Were those your life? F4lconF16 May 2015 #18

Yes, they were my life. Unknown Beatle May 2015 #20

I've still got a few score LPs hanging around, and probably some are 'rare', but probably not worth Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #27

Well, why didn't you try to get the albums back? Beaverhausen May 2015 #46

I was in bad shape after the accident. Unknown Beatle May 2015 #52

She is entitled to be worried. mindem May 2015 #30

I realize that it's her livelihood. Unknown Beatle May 2015 #57

That is rather melodramatic. mindem May 2015 #58

No, I'm not being melodramatic. Unknown Beatle May 2015 #66

Not everybody reacts the same way nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #40

You seem to believe that everyone reacts to shock in the same manner. LanternWaste May 2015 #42

Did you say anything odd within the first 15 min of your accident? uppityperson May 2015 #106

I was out for at least half an hour. Unknown Beatle May 2015 #122

"I was babbling and not making sense", rather like tweeting and not making sense? uppityperson May 2015 #123

The e-thugs disgust me LittleBlue May 2015 #19

I have a daughter who is a classically trained musician. murielm99 May 2015 #21

Thank you so much, mark. I thought it had to be something like this. Hekate May 2015 #22

I liken social media mobbing to long-ago public executions justiceischeap May 2015 #24

I would never judge anyone probably in a state of shock n/t WestSideStory May 2015 #28

Think before you tweet MoonRiver May 2015 #29

Yeah rjsquirrel May 2015 #64

Thank you. I was aghast at that Twitter rage mainer May 2015 #36

Would people have reacted the same way if she tweeted about... mainer May 2015 #37

It was also the "thanks a lot for derailing my train" sarcastic snark that people objected to Nye Bevan May 2015 #39

The problem with immediately posting all your thoughts on social media SheilaT May 2015 #38

You are from a different generation. nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #41

Who would have thought that our mothers were right? catrose May 2015 #43

I was taught never to wear underpants with holes in them in case of an accident. Let's just say libdem4life May 2015 #78

That has nothing to do with it. SheilaT May 2015 #69

Yes it does nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #70

I am not justifying cyber bullying, but any young person SheilaT May 2015 #71

Her post was directed at the company nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #72

Thanks, Mark catrose May 2015 #47

"Could she have not tweeted this, of course. Was it I bad taste the way it was written, yes" Demit May 2015 #53

Who is critiquing Patrick Murphy? bigbrother05 May 2015 #55

Thanks for this, Mark. hifiguy May 2015 #56

One can sure tell those with empathy in this thread, -none May 2015 #59

Proud to say rjsquirrel May 2015 #61

And if she weren't an Asian woman rjsquirrel May 2015 #65

A snarky, egocentric public tweet during a tragedy...we learn things about people... aikoaiko May 2015 #73

I don't think there is one thing "selfish" about a professional musician hifiguy May 2015 #81

Lots of people probably lost things -- some even their lives. aikoaiko May 2015 #87

The instruments used by orchestral professionals hifiguy May 2015 #90

Of course, and I'm sure it was insured. aikoaiko May 2015 #94

and a concert today catrose May 2015 #95

I am not a musician and I get it nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #98

Bass guitarist and former Alembic owner. hifiguy May 2015 #99

cellist & slave to 4 kittehs catrose May 2015 #104

A Professional Musician, Who, By The Way. . . ProfessorGAC May 2015 #120

I know. hifiguy May 2015 #121

Because we find professional level instruments in a box of cracker jacks nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #86

Did someone say that? Wow? aikoaiko May 2015 #88

What we are learning is that people are quite self righteus nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #91

Norm? Who else posted snarky, selfish tweets? Use your skills to ferret that out and.. aikoaiko May 2015 #92

You might want to read post 67 nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #93

Hey, you responded to me. You can duck and cover if you want. aikoaiko May 2015 #96

I am not, I pointed out where you can go read my views on this nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #97

Who posted "snarky, selfish tweets"? This woman posted 1 tweet, right after the uppityperson May 2015 #108

Not as far as I can tell nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #114

Okay, I guess I'm a bad, bad person just like her. haele May 2015 #124

Trust me, the media looks for the pious rocking victim nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #126

I said snarky and egocentric, not a bad, bad person aikoaiko May 2015 #129

Here's the problem. When one is in life/death situation one is egocentric. haele May 2015 #133

Well, it sounds like we agree she was snarky and egocentric during a tragedy. aikoaiko May 2015 #134

Again, just as I would be in her shoes. That's why the egocentricism of the critics should be noted haele May 2015 #135

You post you tweets and take your chances. aikoaiko May 2015 #136

She is certainly pretty stupid for not issuing an apology! People died and are in the hospital..... Logical May 2015 #74

Clueless nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #77

LOL, she should try empathy. And nice try on the sexist attempt. If a man would of done it he..... Logical May 2015 #101

And some are dead nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #110

You got run out of here? How did that happen? Or is it you just got annoyed? Maybe you..... Logical May 2015 #112

This is classic textbook behavior nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #117

LOL, OK. Maybe I see now why you left. nt Logical May 2015 #118

I give people who have just been in a serious accident a break as to what they say and do uppityperson May 2015 #109

An apology to who? First-rate whiners and drama queens on Twitter that can't wait Oneironaut May 2015 #116

LOL, She was the initial whiner. Dead people still on the ground and she whines about a violin. nt Logical May 2015 #119

The second person quoted sums it up nicely, but then again she knows the woman. Gormy Cuss May 2015 #80

And if she was a he, the reaction would have been quite muted nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #82

If we knew there was a Da Vinci painting on the train, would try hard to save it? on point May 2015 #83

I would have been frantic MuseRider May 2015 #100

Thanks for posting this! n/t RKP5637 May 2015 #102

Thank you for raising the bar of empathy. I hope she gets her violin back in good condition. MH1 May 2015 #107

here's the thing Skittles May 2015 #125

It is a very valuable violin. mindem May 2015 #127

I thought it was a valuable one nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #128

She was probably worried about it being damaged AnnieBW May 2015 #131

like a child or pet, i imagine ones instrument is very very important. pansypoo53219 May 2015 #132