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Divernan

(15,480 posts)
87. Signed Jan. 21, 2009 - the times, they've been a-changin'
Fri May 15, 2015, 07:04 AM
May 2015

Bill Clinton: "It depends on what your definition of "is" is. For Obama, it all depends on what your definition of "transparency" is.

Words and deeds, baby, words and deeds. I always vote based on the latter, not the former.
Or as the Marlon Brando character in the old film, One Eyed Jacks said, "Talk is cheap, Jack. Make your play."


http://govfresh.com/2009/12/white-house-transparency-and-open-government-memorandum/

That's astonishing. It must be REALLY bad for the average American. Vinca May 2015 #1
Hmm, I need an additional signature line: flor-de-jasmim May 2015 #77
America should be better than this. Good grief... think May 2015 #2
Yep, the transparency we were promised. n/t RKP5637 May 2015 #3
Well, Sherman A1 May 2015 #5
It is! Thav May 2015 #80
God Bless America deutsey May 2015 #4
Anyone who says that the TPP secrecy is bullshit, is either ignorant or cali May 2015 #6
Ignorant, prevaricating, trolling - maybe all three. Divernan May 2015 #7
Thanks for the link, Cali.. Check out this part on services. hedda_foil May 2015 #25
Industries deancr May 2015 #44
Time For A Group -- PUKE, Literally! ChiciB1 May 2015 #83
If the TPP passes, is there any conceivable way it can be challenged/rolled-back? erronis May 2015 #84
K & R & AzDar May 2015 #8
She should be yelling from the rooftops about this. dixiegrrrrl May 2015 #9
+1 Enthusiast May 2015 #11
this is nuts. why can't we get a someone with a photographic certainot May 2015 #10
Wouldn't THAT be exactly the staffer to have working for you? Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #26
Probably end up in jail for treason yeoman6987 May 2015 #38
Yes Punx May 2015 #12
Welcome to DU! lark May 2015 #46
One of them should let her/himself be arrested greymattermom May 2015 #13
OR.... Plucketeer May 2015 #16
Yes! A senatorial arrest or two for taking notes could make clear what's going on. hedda_foil May 2015 #35
This administration exhibits the transparency Plucketeer May 2015 #14
+1000 Angry Dragon May 2015 #47
That is disgraceful. yardwork May 2015 #15
Guessing that the DU pro-TPP contingent sleeps in late.. frylock May 2015 #17
I dont know who they are, but I do know that this president has been obstructed unlike any randys1 May 2015 #28
This is intolerable. blackspade May 2015 #18
K&R for exposure and bookmark. JEB May 2015 #19
Kick. Best democracy investors can buy. nt raouldukelives May 2015 #20
Whenever the people are well informed, they can be trusted with their own government; Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #21
+100 whathehell May 2015 #69
I can't believe this isn't front page news. jalan48 May 2015 #22
Hell, the TPP isn't even back-page news. KamaAina May 2015 #85
"Obama loves me, this I know..." Android3.14 May 2015 #23
This must be a pack of lies! Right here on DU I have been told by several members that A Simple Game May 2015 #24
+1 historylovr May 2015 #29
Bad Senator! Bad! Bad! RufusTFirefly May 2015 #27
Somebody knew moondust May 2015 #30
There have to be thousands of pages n2doc May 2015 #33
Exactly. moondust May 2015 #36
That's obviously a feature, not a bug. nt tblue37 May 2015 #40
+ a ton. that's the nub of it. cali May 2015 #74
I think we need to know who is fucking cleared for this. Orsino May 2015 #31
My, what a smart to get congresscritters to support a bill sarge43 May 2015 #32
Recommend! KoKo May 2015 #34
Thats standard for any classified area GummyBearz May 2015 #37
Congress did not have access to FDR's trade negotiations nor Obama's Iranian negotiations. pampango May 2015 #39
Well, then I guess it's okay... americannightmare May 2015 #42
If confidential international negotiations are 'wrong', we'll have to come up with another method pampango May 2015 #43
The Obama I voted for promised transparency and rule of law as touchstones Divernan May 2015 #41
But but but ..I just read on the White House website that Obama runs the most transparent in history LiberalLovinLug May 2015 #86
Signed Jan. 21, 2009 - the times, they've been a-changin' Divernan May 2015 #87
Fealty to the power structure is what is wanted. lark May 2015 #45
According to my Senator the TPP has not even been finished yet Angry Dragon May 2015 #48
I watched Senator Boxer's whole speeech yesterday. It was terrific. stuffmatters May 2015 #49
Just call me stupid turbinetree May 2015 #50
Do we know who the people are who are negotiating, and ARE allowed to look at it? arcane1 May 2015 #51
Remember, this is the issue Obama has chosen Kelvin Mace May 2015 #52
It really is absurdly simple. hifiguy May 2015 #55
Jimmy Carter Punx May 2015 #56
Succinctly and accurately stated. 1,000+ Divernan May 2015 #88
No privacy for citizens, absolute secrecy for the 1%. Marr May 2015 #53
nothing is safe that does not show how it can bear discussion and publicity. Lord Acton Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #54
We can't see it, congress members can't see it Tsiyu May 2015 #57
+1 whereisjustice May 2015 #63
"What ya in for, kid?" "Taking illegal notes". And they all moved away from her on the bench...n/t jtuck004 May 2015 #58
Prosense, er, I mean Hoyt, must be off their game Skittles May 2015 #59
Their side won. Only the gloating and boasting remains n/t n2doc May 2015 #61
they "won" the same way gun humpers "won" Skittles May 2015 #68
Yes n2doc May 2015 #75
spewing blue ink like a ruptured squid... whereisjustice May 2015 #65
This is Bullshit Bullshit Bullshit. People need to wake up. What is so damn secret that they don't YOHABLO May 2015 #60
play the two level game, Mr. President. Stop acting like some shady prick. Ed Suspicious May 2015 #62
Boxer was my Senator for many years, and my quess is she didn't quite believe or grasp what libdem4life May 2015 #64
They need to record this. It'd go viral so quick. joshcryer May 2015 #66
A good analogy for what is happening now ... nikto May 2015 #67
TPP is becoming our "cask of Amontillado" Art_from_Ark May 2015 #70
LET ME MAKE SURE I spell this right... yuiyoshida May 2015 #71
Or in Japanese Art_from_Ark May 2015 #72
Honto desu Ark san yuiyoshida May 2015 #81
Good thing, too, because Boxer takes good notes. Major Hogwash May 2015 #73
Common Sense Reasons for Keeping Detail Secret Evar May 2015 #76
Here is what is wrong - if it is not finished, then why the rush to have Fast Track? djean111 May 2015 #78
"I'm afraid I can't allow that, Dave." Smarmie Doofus May 2015 #79
Silly Senator ... DirkGently May 2015 #82
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