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16. Really sad that this is said to kids…

Fri May 15, 2015, 11:41 PM

May 2015

Kids are not supposed to be at school to learn to "toughen up" and "defend themselves."

They are in school to learn. Geez!

I'm sorry this happened to you. It's wrong.

I fail to see exactly what the school thinks they are preparing kids for? In the real world, outside of the confines of school--if someone physically abuses you, threatens you or harasses you--that's a crime. You file charges and the criminal is arrested. That's the real world. So, in no real-world scenario--do grown adults hit one another, stalk them, terrorize them, repeatedly harass them and get away with it.

Kids are vulnerable. Kids who are bullied are often shy or unable to communicate well and they are vulnerable. It's the school's job to protect them, not turn them into Rambo. Not all of us ARE Rambo. Some of us are shy or introverted and that's they way we like it.

It's the bully who needs to change. Innocent kids who are bullied are doing nothing wrong.

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Bullied 12-year old girl kills herself after school told her to "toughen up" [View all] davidn3600 May 2015 OP

May Alyssa rest in peace. In_The_Wind May 2015 #1

That is a statistic no school should have. Initech May 2015 #2

Maybe the School District hired Mitt Romney's Bain Capital as a consultant. I hear tell that KingCharlemagne May 2015 #33

Or maybe schools/districts are hiring outside consultants erronis May 2015 #48

The rise of the oligarchy is real, it's not CT when it is exactly what is behind all of what's mother earth May 2015 #58

"You can call me a 'conspiracy theorist' if I can call you a 'coincidence theorist' " (Quote attrib- KingCharlemagne May 2015 #66

I didn't call anyone a CT, and don't appreciate the other CT term you seem to be applying to me. mother earth May 2015 #68

Sorry, I used very sloppy word choice and poor punctuation. It's a saying by KingCharlemagne May 2015 #69

TY very much, you had me worried. mother earth May 2015 #70

FWIW, I love tossing 'coincidence theorist' at jerks who try to shut me KingCharlemagne May 2015 #71

I completely agree! n/t AwakeAtLast May 2015 #42

Still holding the students responsible???? What are adults for???? libdem4life May 2015 #3

I know. But it's been that way for many years. My poor kid, at age 12, was Nay May 2015 #29

I was there too, 50+ years ago erronis May 2015 #49

"...segregated facilities (by sex or interests or whatever)..." greiner3 May 2015 #64

That, of course, includes all of us. erronis May 2015 #65

14 dead kids and you say "toughen up"? mopinko May 2015 #4

That sounds like an invitation to create Ilsa May 2015 #34

I really want to be angry, but all I can be right now is sad. NuclearDem May 2015 #5

We live in a bully culture. Our TV and movie heros bully "the bad guys". People don't understand rhett o rick May 2015 #6

recommend nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #8

You know much better than I. I salute you Nadin. rhett o rick May 2015 #11

Yeah and they are back at it nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #12

I recommend your recommend. longship May 2015 #25

America is a half civilized country AZ Progressive May 2015 #13

We live in a sado-masochistic culture that celebrates torture and cruelty, so long KingCharlemagne May 2015 #35

I so agree. nm rhett o rick May 2015 #40

Freud caused many of our issues we see today. F4lconF16 May 2015 #41

Isaac Newton believed in and practiced alchemy. Shall we toss out Newton's contributions KingCharlemagne May 2015 #45

We are as backward a culture as exists on the planet. hifiguy May 2015 #43

Hey, just look at the most popular religion of our sado-masochistic culture. backscatter712 May 2015 #72

The problem is it goes too far in the other direction. kcr May 2015 #78

We all recognize the big brute bully. But many don't recognize the self-righteous bully. rhett o rick May 2015 #81

The problem is people don't recognize the self righteous bully when it is themselves kcr May 2015 #82

I just think that too many are too quick to jump in and dish out self-righteous retribution. rhett o rick May 2015 #83

I realize you were speaking generally kcr May 2015 #84

This is sad heaven05 May 2015 #7

How can this school face an epidemic of student suicides without acknowledging and responding? NBachers May 2015 #9

This is what schools basically tell kids, "your supposed to learn to defend yourself" AZ Progressive May 2015 #10

Really sad that this is said to kids… CoffeeCat May 2015 #16

And if you DO... sendero May 2015 #27

Yeah, learned that way myself. sakabatou May 2015 #61

But if a victim tries to defend himself or herself, the *victim* gets punished by the school for tblue37 May 2015 #38

Sometimes I think awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #44

Or the schools just put you in the Catch 22. backscatter712 May 2015 #73

Yeah, Alyssa! TOUGHEN UP!! AngryDem001 May 2015 #14

I have worked in this school before... CoffeeCat May 2015 #15

One would think that schools should protect kids, but it seems that that's not the school admin's... AZ Progressive May 2015 #20

I was bullied for six straight years, going to school felt like going to a warzone AZ Progressive May 2015 #23

i am so sorry you had to go through this etherealtruth May 2015 #37

I'm sorry you had to experience that, you should have been protected. Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #53

I don't think involving the police in these situations would help anything. nessa May 2015 #31

Not sure I'm completely down with "three strikes" rules for 12-year-olds and, KingCharlemagne May 2015 #36

Sadly, I recommend this. Lunabell May 2015 #17

I feel sick. cyberswede May 2015 #18

The people who speak of the need to "toughten up"... JHB May 2015 #19

What do you mean by "toughen up"? lobodons May 2015 #24

Grow a thicker skin of course justiceischeap May 2015 #26

... Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #55

Exactly. God help you if your kid takes a swing back at the bully. You'll find the school Nay May 2015 #30

too sad for words.... secondwind May 2015 #21

Who Should "Toughen Up" Is The Principal DallasNE May 2015 #22

This school is horrible Gothmog May 2015 #28

This kind of thing is going on everywhere--especially related to sexual identity/preference-- mnhtnbb May 2015 #32

Toughen up? 15 suicides in 12 years, that is horrific. RIP for this poor kid. n/t Jefferson23 May 2015 #39

Kicked Enthusiast May 2015 #46

K&R! Omaha Steve May 2015 #47

The culture of "Zero Tolerance" needs to be removed alphafemale May 2015 #50

Alyssa... Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #51

The principal needs to be re-assigned DFW May 2015 #52

Drag that principal into a dark alley... backscatter712 May 2015 #74

This headline is total BS oberliner May 2015 #54

This story is about a dead little girl, dead by her own hands, murdered by bullies. Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #56

Amen oberliner May 2015 #60

... Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #62

15 suicides in 12 years. kcr May 2015 #79

That is insane oberliner May 2015 #80

gah allan01 May 2015 #57

No words. Elmer S. E. Dump May 2015 #59

Mercy shenmue May 2015 #63

heartbreaking marym625 May 2015 #67

I couldn't even click on this thread at first. hunter May 2015 #75

+1 n/t Smarmie Doofus May 2015 #76

Poor girl. May she rest in peace bobjacksonk2832 May 2015 #77

Fifteen suicides and they don't recognize a problem? lpbk2713 May 2015 #85