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FlatBaroque

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121. Therein lies the problem

Sat May 16, 2015, 10:37 AM

May 2015

We, the people, have been deliberately and systematically disenfranchised by major forces in politics. Once we were cut off from influencing the debate, we were essentially left defenseless and unable to respond to their tactics ( though I will differ in verbiage in that they are rely on strategy as well as tactics). Even on discussion boards such as this where we thought we could organize and form collective action plans, they sent in infiltrators to prevent that from succeeding. I'm afraid the "system" has been corrupted beyond rehabilitation, which is why there will be a bloody revolution, because that is the only remedy they have left for us. (That's why the domestic police force is now more like an occupying force).

In the example of Moore's great film Sicko, I recall the attacks on Moore, but I sort of recognize that the "left" has far more infiltrators than we might imagine.

Anyway, love your posts, and keep fighting for all of us. People like you are candles in the darkness.

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MATT TAIBBI: The Democratic Party Would TRIANGULATE Its Own Mother [View all] Segami May 2015 OP

I saw the title to this article in the title of a DU post yesterday. MohRokTah May 2015 #1

Which means you agreed with it.... daleanime May 2015 #2

it means poster FlatBaroque May 2015 #3

Because he choose to post the article? daleanime May 2015 #9

Yes, I saw it posted a couple of times yesterday, also. blue neen May 2015 #4

Yep, Taibbi is a master at crafting stories he knows a certain segment wants to hear. stevenleser May 2015 #17

Yes, sadly Taibbi's articles are slanted in a certain direction. The sad part is they A Simple Game May 2015 #19

No, they are not slanted towards the truth. All you need to know about him is found stevenleser May 2015 #20

For you there is only one problem with his agenda, it doesn't fit yours. n/t A Simple Game May 2015 #23

perfect reply FlatBaroque May 2015 #25

+2 Segami May 2015 #31

No, the reverse. The only reason you aren't analyzing his writing is it perfectly dovetails with stevenleser May 2015 #26

Perfect reply! nt One of the 99 May 2015 #27

+2 Bobbie Jo May 2015 #36

Well to be honest my second excerpt is subjective, but I challenge you to A Simple Game May 2015 #32

I'll do a search and find that post by the DUer that was at an event he completely mischaracterized. stevenleser May 2015 #62

Please hurry, I plan to hold my breath until A Simple Game May 2015 #65

Actually, there are plenty of them. No need to hold your breath stevenleser May 2015 #66

Wow, you even went back to DU2 for your links to posts with links. A Simple Game May 2015 #70

And of course when proof is provided, you throw out ad-hominems and then beg out of the stevenleser May 2015 #71

All that work and you still leave my challenge unanswered. A Simple Game May 2015 #74

Oh I've answered your challenges and then some. The guy can't be trusted to tell the truth. stevenleser May 2015 #75

It appears you not only don't read the articles you link to, A Simple Game May 2015 #78

Oh I read them, as did the original DUers who posted them. Nice try. nt stevenleser May 2015 #80

Yet my challenge is still unanswered, again. A Simple Game May 2015 #85

Your point was about the truth of the first excerpt. merrily May 2015 #103

From your first article JDPriestly May 2015 #90

And here is more stevenleser May 2015 #69

Do you even pay attention to what you link to or are you just going for volume? A Simple Game May 2015 #72

So you are acknowledging he lied up a storm in 2003, 2004 and 2009 but think he suddenly stopped stevenleser May 2015 #73

I acknowledged no such thing and you know it. A Simple Game May 2015 #76

Its fair to say you did acknowledge it & It's the same generalized sneer at and smear of Democrats. stevenleser May 2015 #79

Warren was nothng in 03....& Obama didn't come onto the scene until 04.... Historic NY May 2015 #101

Try a Google search. JDPriestly May 2015 #89

Lets really turbinetree May 2015 #39

Because of that you don't care whether it is factual or not. AlbertCat May 2015 #86

Precisely what is not actual about it? JDPriestly May 2015 #88

Oh yes! Good one. 840high May 2015 #96

I totally agree. And I love the idea that it backfired. The unions and many of us were very angry jwirr May 2015 #43

Amazing the regressives that come out of the woodwork on the attack of those who speak out newthinking May 2015 #97

I think the Populist Movement will grow. Obama may get his job killing wish and rhett o rick May 2015 #100

Triangulation does more harm than good. The conservatives have the right idea. A Simple Game May 2015 #120

Matt Taibbi is one of the most honest reporters in this country today. Naturally he is despised sabrina 1 May 2015 #28

He is Carlin without the funny. Tells the truth, the whole truth and little else. randys1 May 2015 #53

Anyone who has been telling the truth over the past decade or so, instantly becomes a target sabrina 1 May 2015 #58

Sabrina, I view you as a top tier thinker and poster, but FlatBaroque May 2015 #116

You make a good point. And to be honest, many of us while watching these smear campaigns sabrina 1 May 2015 #119

Therein lies the problem FlatBaroque May 2015 #121

There is little we can do, but one thing we can do is to not allow good people to be smeared on sabrina 1 May 2015 #126

Yeah, Sunstein has been on my radar FlatBaroque May 2015 #128

I think Matt is pretty funny FlatBaroque May 2015 #115

Notice that one truth teller after another has been been trashed in washington (and on this forum) newthinking May 2015 #98

Indeed. hifiguy May 2015 #125

Like nobody else's articles have a slant? Everything has a bias. Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #40

The difference is, he completely mischaracterizes events to fit that agenda. stevenleser May 2015 #60

Depending on which "truth" one chooses to believe Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #63

I'll find the post. You will see, it is completely indefensible. nt stevenleser May 2015 #64

You will of course post information on the event with details and post Taibbi's article so WE sabrina 1 May 2015 #102

yeah he isn't a DEM party hack. nt m-lekktor May 2015 #45

Nope. See my #45 nt stevenleser May 2015 #61

So... kenfrequed May 2015 #93

I can understand why you would resent Matt Taibbi. 99Forever May 2015 #99

lolll FlatBaroque May 2015 #117

It's clever... sendero May 2015 #5

Based on Republican wins at the polls merrily May 2015 #104

spot on as usual by Taibbi FlatBaroque May 2015 #6

Interesting application of triangulation HereSince1628 May 2015 #7

Or, it cuts the baby in half. djean111 May 2015 #11

triangulation has traditionally pointed right because it's been used on more conservative opponents. HereSince1628 May 2015 #14

The real problem is how strategically stupid it is kenfrequed May 2015 #92

Yes, but that's sort'a the problem of relying on a tactic rather than a strategy.. HereSince1628 May 2015 #94

Oh gods, Exactly! kenfrequed May 2015 #106

I don't think they are going anywhere. HereSince1628 May 2015 #109

Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast May 2015 #8

K & R Duppers May 2015 #10

So much Triangulated I got to thinking FDR wrote NAFTA Octafish May 2015 #12

+1 nt rbnyc May 2015 #47

Not exactly news but worth keeping fresh in the publics minds (K&R) (nt) Babel_17 May 2015 #13

This guy, Taibbi is a national treasure. Ed Suspicious May 2015 #15

+1000 rbnyc May 2015 #48

Agreed, and we can admire and support Obama AND simultaneously acknowledge he is randys1 May 2015 #56

I know I am responsible for much of my disappointment in Obama... rbnyc May 2015 #77

He knew he couldnt get public option in more ways than one. randys1 May 2015 #81

believe or not rbnyc May 2015 #82

About Triangulation- if you are opposing a strong force, the only way to move forward KittyWampus May 2015 #16

But, of course rhetoric isn't physics HereSince1628 May 2015 #91

Physics, arithmetic. merrily May 2015 #105

No matter what the President does, he will never get the Republicans to love him. corkhead May 2015 #18

Welcome to Detroit Geronimoe May 2015 #21

I don't get it - Obama gets bashed for criticizing Warren, but Warren skates for criticizing Obama?? George II May 2015 #22

Or, Obama gets bashed for siding with the billionaires and transnationals, and Warren "skates" Doctor_J May 2015 #29

Obama called Warren "flat out wrong." So *exactly* what did she get wrong? magical thyme May 2015 #30

It's true FlatBaroque May 2015 #34

Up until he started attacking her she was attacking the TPP. Or at least that is the way I see it. jwirr May 2015 #49

Truth, but of course it will get ignored in the media because nonoxy9 May 2015 #24

+1,000,000,000 Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #41

And I'll raise you another million RufusTFirefly May 2015 #108

Yup, it's trifecta Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #123

RS destroyed itself with that one: everyone knows it's structured like HuffPo so the MisterP May 2015 #68

This is bad politics as well as bad governance, as shown by the 2009 congressional profile compared Doctor_J May 2015 #33

Sad but true. marmar May 2015 #35

Taibbi is back on the Obama apologist's official list of poopy heads. whereisjustice May 2015 #37

Democratic Party would hire some child labor in Vietnam to triangulate its own mother... whereisjustice May 2015 #38

It's gonna be Democrats who destroy The New Deal Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #42

TPP tennstar May 2015 #46

That is interesting bread_and_roses May 2015 #111

My God! I think you are right, it's so obvious when you see it in black and white. A Simple Game May 2015 #50

The DLC and it's evil spawn 3rd Way. Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #51

One of the most powerful tools FDR gave us to make sure we never had another Great Depression jwirr May 2015 #52

And Commodity Futures Modernization Act Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #54

Exactly. jwirr May 2015 #55

.....! KoKo May 2015 #83

Here is why Feingold running for Senate is so important. randys1 May 2015 #57

Yes and we need many more who will stand up for everyone equally. Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #59

Nice Distillation Matt colsohlibgal May 2015 #44

Kick and R. BeanMusical May 2015 #67

DURec! bvar22 May 2015 #84

K&R. Obama is really letting America down with this TPP agreement. JDPriestly May 2015 #87

Thank you JDP Bohunk68 May 2015 #113

K & R !!! Thespian2 May 2015 #95

Recommended democrank May 2015 #107

He actually uses the phrase "Third Way Dems"? ucrdem May 2015 #110

A note to Ucrdem: third way didn't originate at DU. m-lekktor May 2015 #112

Sure, but I've never seen the phrase "Third Way Dems" in print ucrdem May 2015 #114

Yes, Obama has shown plenty of evidence of his vindictive, short-tempered manner. randome May 2015 #118

Taibbi ought to be a political strategist, since he knows so much... Blue_Tires May 2015 #122

If only Senator Warren would quash the "not behind the POTUS desk" argument laserhaas May 2015 #124

kick woo me with science May 2015 #127