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RainDog

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17. What was the context of the time?
Thu May 10, 2012, 01:33 AM
May 2012

The abolitionist movement was not simply made up of religious groups, btw. Fredrick Douglass would beg to differ. Along with other former slaves.

However, what was a religious conservative in that time? In comparison to what?

You can certainly say that religious groups in the north were part of the abolitionist movement - but I don't know how you can label them as conservative in relation to other beliefs at the time.

so, how do you go about doing that? what made them conservative in that time?

In the 1700s the Quakers were anti-slavery and were aligned with the atheist, Thomas Paine. So, were they conservative then?

I don't think you can apply the term "conservative" to all religious groups and you need to look at their social beliefs in the context of the time. It seems to me that, by default, any religion that was staunchly anti-slavery even before the American revolution was not a conservative religious group.

On the other hand, the religious groups in the south that used the Bible to try to justify slavery could, following the logic of conservatism as the attempt to conserve the status quo, be considered social conservatives. And religious conservatives, due to the Great Awakening - but the Great Awakening influenced the entire nation - some to positive action and some to negative action.

So, again, I guess you need to provide an explanation of religious conservative in relation to that era for me to say... okay, maybe this is one instance.

Never. MrSlayer May 2012 #1
By their own admission, they'd like to stop the progress of history aint_no_life_nowhere May 2012 #2
great quote. I've never seen that one before n/t RainDog May 2012 #10
To answer your second question bupkus May 2012 #3
The next time will be hifiguy May 2012 #4
LOLOL!!!! RainDog May 2012 #11
That's probably why they're always so bitter, mean and petty Canuckistanian May 2012 #5
Selfishness is inherent to human nature. Many change, conservatives dont't. demosincebirth May 2012 #6
I think it's more about fear RainDog May 2012 #18
What the old-timer said... Mopar151 May 2012 #7
When Turbineguy May 2012 #8
Perhaps only their founding father was correct Rex May 2012 #9
I read quite a bit of his work oh so long ago RainDog May 2012 #16
I think he would cry if he knew that the Teabaggers Rex May 2012 #20
1861 scheming daemons May 2012 #12
Slavery was socially and economically conservative RainDog May 2012 #13
Staunch religious conservatives made up the abolitionist movement scheming daemons May 2012 #14
Uh.....I'm sorry, but what? AverageJoe90 May 2012 #15
What was the context of the time? RainDog May 2012 #17
you said it first and more eloquently than I eShirl May 2012 #24
more like what we would now call religious liberals eShirl May 2012 #23
A conservative who supports progress on an issue is simply a conservative NYC Liberal May 2012 #19
Prior to the 20th century, the political positions of 'conservative' and 'liberal' were coalition_unwilling May 2012 #21
When have conservatives EVER been on the "right side of history?" KAIXIN1 May 2012 #22
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