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harrose

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90. I do not believe that to be correct.

Sun May 17, 2015, 10:28 PM

May 2015

Firstly, the wording in Hebrew is "Lo Tirtzach" which is translated as "do not murder. If it were truly "do not kill," the wording would be "Lo Taharog." Murder is distinct from killing in that murder is the unlawful taking of a life, whereas killing is simply the taking of a life (justified or not).

Secondly, even a cursory reading of the Bible shows that there are numerous sins for which the death penalty is called for. Obviously one can be a Christian and support the death penalty.

Personally, I don't support the DP, but your argument is simply wrong.

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Boston in shock over Tsarnaev death penalty [View all] cali May 2015 OP

Most people in Maryland feel the same way. Koinos May 2015 #1

I am in Virginia and what Maryland did resonates with me. Raine1967 May 2015 #52

Death penalty isn't legal in Massachusetts, is it? PDittie May 2015 #2

No, it isn't. Not since 1984 sarge43 May 2015 #4

The answer to that is yes n/t PDittie May 2015 #11

You can make a case that enlightened individuals PCIntern May 2015 #3

Whenever I hear anyone advocating for the death penalty, I feel a strong impulse KingCharlemagne May 2015 #75

Very apt... PCIntern May 2015 #79

Too light a penalty. Jester Messiah May 2015 #5

Amen. n/t SylviaD May 2015 #8

Well we don't do that... Oktober May 2015 #9

+1000s DinahMoeHum May 2015 #13

Really? Why? What does suffering bring? Scootaloo May 2015 #55

Punishment, justice, and an object example. [nt] Jester Messiah May 2015 #74

Suffering is not justice. Suffering is a crude punishment. Suffering does not deter others. Scootaloo May 2015 #78

Those are certainly three assertions. [nt] Jester Messiah May 2015 #88

let's be sympathetic and just go with the death penalty samsingh May 2015 #67

it was a Federal jury.....not state irisblue May 2015 #6

That answer the question. Fed trumps state. n/t sarge43 May 2015 #7

I oppose the death penalty in 99% of cases... SylviaD May 2015 #10

Giving up to easily on your own beliefs. Agschmid May 2015 #18

Bullshit, either you are against it or for it. You are for it. Nice try. nt Logical May 2015 #19

Quoting simpleton George W Bush now? FLPanhandle May 2015 #27

Nope, not on the DP! Kill or not! Simple! nt Logical May 2015 #30

Life isn't simple FLPanhandle May 2015 #31

"no question of guilt" how clueless are you? Logical May 2015 #32

Do you think this guy is innocent? FLPanhandle May 2015 #34

I enjoy you justifying the DP so you feel better. Like I said, name another country that you.... Logical May 2015 #35

We are talking about this one particular case. FLPanhandle May 2015 #41

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and a bumper sticker reply FLPanhandle May 2015 #43

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Why are you so hostile to FLPanhandle? cwydro May 2015 #86

i oppose the death penalty 1000% of the time spanone May 2015 #21

I am against it when there is the remote chance the person is innocent. n/t SylviaD May 2015 #25

10,000% of the time. spanone May 2015 #26

That means you support the death penalty. City Lights May 2015 #22

I am not. I am only against it in all cases where a mistake could possibly be made. n/t SylviaD May 2015 #46

Which means you support it. Agschmid May 2015 #83

Peruse The finals of the innocence project dbackjon May 2015 #73

I feel the same way. nt woolldog May 2015 #81

It's barbaric marym625 May 2015 #12

a question irisblue May 2015 #14

Sorry, marym625 May 2015 #15

Won't catch any shit from me. That's pretty much my exact opinion on the matter. NuclearDem May 2015 #16

Thank you marym625 May 2015 #17

I agree with every word you've said. polly7 May 2015 #23

Thank you marym625 May 2015 #24

I don't want to see him tortured or killed. christx30 May 2015 #47

and if he were 24 or older marym625 May 2015 #48

19 years old is an adult. christx30 May 2015 #49

I said I would not respond to any shit marym625 May 2015 #50

I completely oppose the death penalty, but... TDale313 May 2015 #57

I'm not minimizing his crimes. marym625 May 2015 #59

I will add marym625 May 2015 #60

Agreed, totally. TDale313 May 2015 #61

Thanks marym625 May 2015 #63

Putting a murderer in prison christx30 May 2015 #66

That is not what I said, marym625 May 2015 #68

Hope he moves in next door to you phil89 May 2015 #53

That was completely unnecessary. DeadLetterOffice May 2015 #56

She came up with the scenario, not me. phil89 May 2015 #80

Lots of murderers have been paroled. Mariana May 2015 #87

I totally agree with you. Fantastic Anarchist May 2015 #28

Thank you marym625 May 2015 #29

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"This man is worthless and needs to be hung, drawn and quartered" BuddhaGirl May 2015 #64

No shit from me either IVoteDFL May 2015 #38

Why thank you marym625 May 2015 #39

Bravo! (Brava!) - I salute your forthrightness and self-awareness. - nt KingCharlemagne May 2015 #77

+1 N/T IL Lib May 2015 #91

You've encapulated my view on this topic to a 'T' /nt Dem2 May 2015 #92

How do other progressive countries respond to that? Or do you like China, Iran, etc better? nt Logical May 2015 #20

Here's how Norway dealt with it. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #33

Tierra_y_Libertad Diclotican May 2015 #70

Not sure why they're shocked SickOfTheOnePct May 2015 #40

Good point, the 'deck was stacked' against him. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #69

In a death penalty case SickOfTheOnePct May 2015 #71

True, but once you start 'weeding out' people the jury is no longer really representive of Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #72

I don't support the death penalty. But I'll sleep well tonight. Eleanors38 May 2015 #44

Surprised me too, elleng May 2015 #51

Would have been same reaction in Michigan. roamer65 May 2015 #54

Anyone who supports the death penalty is no different than Tsarneav, or the freaks who supported him Xithras May 2015 #58

...and one cannot be a Christian and support the death penalty. roamer65 May 2015 #62

I do not believe that to be correct. harrose May 2015 #90

+1 BuddhaGirl May 2015 #65

Well, that seems like a well-reasoned, rational position. Jester Messiah May 2015 #76

There's nothing extremist about it at all, and it's the most rational of positions. Xithras May 2015 #85

What a mindless assertion. phil89 May 2015 #82

And labeling it as "JUSTICE" doesn't make it so either. Xithras May 2015 #84

Well he was an other who practiced another religion and committed a crime that got people killed. craigmatic May 2015 #89