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MaggieD

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47. You can listen to what the right wing media says...

Tue May 19, 2015, 05:50 PM

May 2015

Or you can listen to what the candidate says:

"Speaking with small business owners in Cedar Falls, Iowa, the Democratic presidential frontrunner on Tuesday offered a full-throated defense of a law that's served as a thorn in the side of big banks: Dodd-Frank.

"It's not the big banks that need relief from Washington -- it's small banks and small businesses," Clinton said. "We should be doing more to rein in risky behavior on Wall Street and 'Too Big to Fail.'"

The former secretary of state also scolded what she said were attempts by congressional Republicans to roll back consumer protection provisions and regulations aimed at big banks in Dodd-Frank, calling them "a cynical attempt to game the system for those at the top."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/19/politics/hillary-clinton-big-banks/

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(HRC) is as liberal as Elizabeth Warren and barely more moderate than Bernie Sanders. [View all] Dem2 May 2015 OP

"while Obama is also a 'hard core liberal'" hfojvt May 2015 #1

Perspective is a wonderful thing tech3149 May 2015 #15

Liberalism is the new center. Makes sense. JaneyVee May 2015 #21

lol-- no kidding. /nt Marr May 2015 #94

On an American political plane he probably is... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #104

Wait! I thought he was a Muslim socialist! n/t RufusTFirefly May 2015 #126

I agree, but I also believe that our definitions are limited to what we have NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #2

HRC is a war-mongering corporatist. HooptieWagon May 2015 #3

But she is a "Liberal" war-mongering corporatist. That is why Wall St. supports her. Vincardog May 2015 #30

True, she's more "liberal" than McCain or Lindsay Graham. HooptieWagon May 2015 #50

You have to admit she is more liberal than any OTHER republican running. Vincardog May 2015 #54

She's more liberal than Bill and Obama too MaggieD May 2015 #68

Good one! MissDeeds May 2015 #81

The truth hurts. Vincardog May 2015 #89

Yes it does MissDeeds May 2015 #95

That disqualifies her as President to many. darkangel218 May 2015 #91

Bingo!! +1,000! Me too. n/t RufusTFirefly May 2015 #128

+1 840high May 2015 #131

bulloney. Hillary supports the TPP. She doesn't want to raise the income cali May 2015 #4

Tis truth. hifiguy May 2015 #7

Progressive icon FDR rounded up ethnic groups in internment camps. JaneyVee May 2015 #18

I really wish people didn't use anachronistic arguments cali May 2015 #23

Hey, if we're stripping purity credentials... JaneyVee May 2015 #27

do you have any idea what a historically anachronistic argument is? cali May 2015 #65

He also busted union strikes with federal troops uponit7771 May 2015 #26

That 'effin corrupt corporate stooge MaggieD May 2015 #70

That was Truman when he busted the steel strike./NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #105

And he was fucking wrong, Wrong, WRONG Jackpine Radical May 2015 #32

Yet he's a progressive icon and ranked #1 by presidential scholars. JaneyVee May 2015 #36

no, President Obama isn't close to being as progressive as FDR cali May 2015 #86

If you want to go down that road... AZ Progressive May 2015 #112

So you keep saying MaggieD May 2015 #101

Welcome to DU.. Fumesucker May 2015 #5

I was looking for a link to the Onion. AtomicKitten May 2015 #38

There seems to be a raft of new DU members pushing the meme that HRC is as liberal as Sen Warren. rhett o rick May 2015 #71

And its only the begining. darkangel218 May 2015 #93

You can say that again - Hillary represents phony liberalism at its worst. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2015 #135

Thanks :) Dem2 May 2015 #58

To quote that well-known philosopher hifiguy May 2015 #6

Yes, and to quote that fighter of injustice... bluesbassman May 2015 #109

Barack Obama and HRC would be seen as center right in most European countries. guillaumeb May 2015 #8

Thanks for posting this. hrmjustin May 2015 #9

ya gotta love the flat out lies in that piece cali May 2015 #12

She said she will wait to hear the full proposal before she makes a judgment. hrmjustin May 2015 #13

she already made a POST state department judgment. It's in her POST cali May 2015 #24

Well we shall see what she says. hrmjustin May 2015 #25

Yep, like standing on a train track and saying you will believe it when the train runs over you. nm rhett o rick May 2015 #137

Based on what? Exilednight May 2015 #10

"When she’s shifted positions, it has been in concert with the entire Democratic Party" arcane1 May 2015 #11

Yep. Leaders LEAD, they don't follow the herd. nt hifiguy May 2015 #63

Well bless Nate Silvers little blog Autumn May 2015 #14

Welcome to DU. GoneOffShore May 2015 #16

Thank you for the warm welcome. Dem2 May 2015 #52

Don't let them bully you... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #111

Pusilanimous Dem2 May 2015 #116

You should have told him to look at your journal... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #117

I'm new here though I would think one could see what I've posted to date Dem2 May 2015 #118

I can tell... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #119

Yes Dem2 May 2015 #121

Anchovies...yummmm. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2015 #136

Tell Mr. Roarke and Tattoo that I said wassup. TheKentuckian May 2015 #17

What kind of M&Ms does Tattoo like? KamaAina May 2015 #22

. arcane1 May 2015 #28

Sometimes I wish I were part of this culture Jackpine Radical May 2015 #35

Sometimes I wish I didn't understand them :) arcane1 May 2015 #39

Hillary, Bill, Obama, they are all probably more liberal than people know. joshcryer May 2015 #19

You are welcome to post this in the HRC room. hrmjustin May 2015 #20

I'm going to post pro-HRC stuff in GD MaggieD May 2015 #33

And you are always welcome in the HRC room. hrmjustin May 2015 #41

Thank you MaggieD May 2015 #51

My pleasure! Give them hell! hrmjustin May 2015 #53

I bought a new smart phone because I hated Autumn May 2015 #66

And you are well within the TOS Bobbie Jo May 2015 #115

You're more than welcome to post it there Dem2 May 2015 #43

Thanks. i will in a few minutes. hrmjustin May 2015 #45

Done. hrmjustin May 2015 #62

Yeah, sure. TDale313 May 2015 #29

On no - the truth - it burns (some people) MaggieD May 2015 #31

Funny, the only ones I hear calling out Wall Street CharlotteVale May 2015 #34

Well, to be fair, Jackpine Radical May 2015 #40

You can listen to what the right wing media says... MaggieD May 2015 #47

The Big Banks already have their Treasure Trove it was very important. It was called The Bailout. libdem4life May 2015 #55

Which she had nothing to do with MaggieD May 2015 #60

Should have put it like this "It's not the big banks that need relief from Washington, (they already libdem4life May 2015 #78

Then you aren't paying attention, perhaps MaggieD May 2015 #46

I've been paying attention to Clinton's ties to Wall Street since she CharlotteVale May 2015 #114

Not only that, she can get things done. More importantly, she can win. Hoyt May 2015 #37

The question is whether those things she can get done Jackpine Radical May 2015 #42

I think you can rest easy. She'll get a lot of good stuff done, if for no other reason that she can Hoyt May 2015 #44

Agreed MaggieD May 2015 #48

TPP, fracking, and having Serious Conversations abut the petty concerns of the Vast Unwashed? Jackpine Radical May 2015 #49

How very disappointing. I see no exploded heads Autumn May 2015 #56

Cool story bro! 99Forever May 2015 #57

She may be a liberal on social issues but tiredtoo May 2015 #59

Can you provide examples? MaggieD May 2015 #61

No word from her on TPP, Larry Summers tiredtoo May 2015 #67

She has had plenty of words about the TPP MaggieD May 2015 #73

Larry Summers and tiredtoo May 2015 #76

Is she recommending it be voted down? If so, I missed it. nm rhett o rick May 2015 #85

Sorry, that's just not true MaggieD May 2015 #156

here is a link concerning Hillary and TPP tiredtoo May 2015 #158

This is NOT a liberal stance! cascadiance May 2015 #155

Fail. Katashi_itto May 2015 #64

Funny how the new posters here in DU seem to all favor HRC. Maybe my imagination. nm rhett o rick May 2015 #69

Funny how the same people that thought Obama.... MaggieD May 2015 #72

Are you familiar with the website politicalcompass.org? truebluegreen May 2015 #77

Obama ran as a progressive and governed as a Conservative. While HRC may be on the same page rhett o rick May 2015 #80

I think she is dead on re: FP MaggieD May 2015 #84

Neither are liberal on Foreign Policy. Obama is killing people with drones like there is no rhett o rick May 2015 #87

Nah MaggieD May 2015 #97

Nah. Agschmid May 2015 #123

But neither of them are liberal on Foreign Policy are they? When people try to say she is rhett o rick May 2015 #159

. hrmjustin May 2015 #82

That is not true. hrmjustin May 2015 #90

Your argument lacks substance. nm rhett o rick May 2015 #138

So does yours but i am on mirt and see the knew posters daily and can tell you from hrmjustin May 2015 #140

You mean you have access to their ISP's and can tell if they are sock puppets? nm rhett o rick May 2015 #143

No that is the admins job. hrmjustin May 2015 #144

How can MIRT tell who a poster supports? nm rhett o rick May 2015 #147

Because we are required to read their posts when they join. hrmjustin May 2015 #148

Why do you think they are "paid shills"? Agschmid May 2015 #122

Heavens no. nm rhett o rick May 2015 #139

Definitely your imagination. giftedgirl77 May 2015 #157

Hillary's Koch funded DLC attacked liberals Mnpaul May 2015 #74

Koch funded DLC? MaggieD May 2015 #98

Yep Mnpaul May 2015 #102

Oh good lord MaggieD May 2015 #106

Figures Mnpaul May 2015 #113

Yeah but it's still a boogieman for some Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2015 #103

Yeah but 538 is all about numbers and realty. onehandle May 2015 #75

I know she is more liberal than Bill Clinton, and possibly more BreakfastClub May 2015 #79

She isn't progressive when it comes to the economy or the MIC, or foreign policy, or rhett o rick May 2015 #83

Got any links for that? MaggieD May 2015 #99

Yes there are many. But Homey don't play your game. Do you have any links to prove rhett o rick May 2015 #141

Breitbart? Fox News? Townhall.com? The "Factor"?? MaggieD May 2015 #142

If Breitbart said that HRC voted to invade Iraq, would it be untrue? rhett o rick May 2015 #146

Yes, it would make the claims BS MaggieD May 2015 #149

Fracking is destroying our water supplies. She supports fracking so oil companies can rhett o rick May 2015 #150

Do you have solar panels - are you off the grid? MaggieD May 2015 #152

Fracking is win-win for big corporations. The oil companies can get more gas and they can rhett o rick May 2015 #153

You didn't answer the question MaggieD May 2015 #154

You are trying to divert the subject. Fracking is bad for America. It may cost me more rhett o rick May 2015 #160

LOL! n/t Ruby the Liberal May 2015 #88

Though this has been posted the same wrong talking points of denial continues. Thinkingabout May 2015 #92

More like HRC wants to be a liberal but she has lived in the bubble for so long SomethingFishy May 2015 #96

Yup. So is President Obama. lovemydog May 2015 #100

So now Nate Silver's group, who has seldom been wrong about anything, is full of it because Number23 May 2015 #107

That was a mouthful. Agschmid May 2015 #124

Let's remember exactly where Nate Silver was in 2012... giftedgirl77 May 2015 #130

And also remember exactly WHO it was at the time screaming that Big Bad Nate had that agenda Number23 May 2015 #134

The liberals I know don't love big corporations and put business over workers AZ Progressive May 2015 #108

yep 840high May 2015 #132

hoo boy marmar May 2015 #110

hard core liberal frylock May 2015 #120

Source? Agschmid May 2015 #125

politicalcompass.org frylock May 2015 #133

Where only Kucinich and Nader are liberal.... MaggieD May 2015 #145

yeah, they just arbitrarily placed them there.. frylock May 2015 #161

lmfao!!! bunnies May 2015 #127

Construct validity issue MannyGoldstein May 2015 #129

I see a great career for you in stand up DJ13 May 2015 #151