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321. actually the only thing we know about turn out is what the spreadsheets tell us

Wed May 20, 2015, 02:42 PM

May 2015

and neo cons own the companies running those spreadsheets

neo cons own the companies counting the votes

overseeing our own elections is where we have failed...wether thru laziness or the desire to not buck the ptb we have failed to count our votes and i believe that is how we got into this mess since the mid 60s

current admin knew that...it is why he knew he had to win the caucus states

it is why they counted neighborhoods

http://bradblog.com/?p=9370

karenfromillinois said on 6/25/2012 @ 2:46 pm PT...

from bev's original article ...I have also posted a file with work orders and release notes which shows the Accenture software has a history of tripling votes in certain ("random&quot voter histories, going back to 2004. Except it is not random: Other files I have found prove it is with primarily white Republican precincts that votes are somehow being recorded twice and sometimes three times for certain voters in the voter history report. .....///tripling votes in certain primarily white republican precincts...what could possibly go wrong?
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as i said earlier we do not actually know what turn out is or if the legit winners are awarded the win

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+10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 Phlem May 2015 #26

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! Phlem May 2015 #32

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Again Projecting much? Katashi_itto May 2015 #243

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+1000000000 CharlotteVale May 2015 #62

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Barack Obama put Social Security on the agenda by talking about a "chained CPI" guillaumeb May 2015 #304

Moving goalposts, rewritten history, inverse logic, impossible standards, scapegoating. True Blue Door May 2015 #307

I wrote about certain positions that the President has actually taken. guillaumeb May 2015 #310

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nearing 5000 views and only 88 recs Skittles May 2015 #331

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