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16. I didn't call him establishment. I called him scummy

Thu May 21, 2015, 03:25 PM

May 2015

because he stabbed Unions in the back, pressed for cuts to social services, refused to work with the legislature which wanted to raise taxes on the wealthy, is working to make it illegal for teachers to strike and because he exploited a poor disabled neighbor in a land deal. I posted links to sources for every one of those charges, including links to VTDIgger- not that you have a clue as to what that is, Alternet, Seven Days and VPR. Yes, he's socially liberal and environmentally OK, but you and quite a few here seem to think that is the sum total of what it means to be a liberal.

Funny, how it doesn't bother you at all that this wealthy powerful man exploited his poor disabled neighbor.

You aren't like Vermonters. We thought that was a wretched thing to do- along with balancing the budget on the backs of Vermont's most vulnerable populations.

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Iowa Democrats flee Hillary Clinton over GMO support, Monsanto ties [View all] KamaAina May 2015 OP

From "The Ye Olde Journalist" LMAO! leftofcool May 2015 #1

So are they wrong? We are familiar with the 'attack the messenger' tactic, but unless you have sabrina 1 May 2015 #4

yes, they probably wrong and that site is full of shit cali May 2015 #9

Yes, it is, but the question is 'are they wrong on this'. Never mind, I have found that she sabrina 1 May 2015 #18

First of all, the "right wing" infects most of the major politicians. truedelphi May 2015 #35

+1,000,000,000! Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #44

Indeed. Also, lots of sources on this topic of Hillary's support of GMO's. TheNutcracker May 2015 #102

I am seeing this more and more: alerts on posts that simply merrily May 2015 #151

I think the OP might just be messing with some here. Those that look for any reason rhett o rick May 2015 #43

No one here is saying that she doesn't support them, Agschmid May 2015 #149

Sen Sanders and H. Clinton are not the same on this issue. rhett o rick May 2015 #152

How about this.... raindaddy May 2015 #53

I would put it this way cali May 2015 #60

That works for me.... raindaddy May 2015 #97

I'm a Bernie supporter, but I doubt that very many Iowa farmers oppose GMO seeds and Monsanto JDPriestly May 2015 #71

Smaller farms don't benefit that much Mnpaul May 2015 #98

+1 Agschmid May 2015 #148

The source is ridiculous. Agschmid May 2015 #147

Attacking the source, not the facts of the story, is, in and of itself, not going to do the trick. merrily May 2015 #153

I wonder who on my FB friends list would have posted that. KamaAina May 2015 #13

yep another Clinton smear post azureblue May 2015 #45

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2015 #47

Try the "About Us" Page leftofcool May 2015 #88

WTH? workinclasszero May 2015 #56

Ye Olde Journalist is a Scripture Based Libertarian DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #143

LOL! Another DUer sucked in by a right wing talking point MaggieD May 2015 #58

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Well gems like this are a clue MaggieD May 2015 #68

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What's clear is they are nutty MaggieD May 2015 #75

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Yeah, I think a belief that "Liberals are pushing pedophila in prep for Sharia law" in the U.S. MaggieD May 2015 #86

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Well I hope you enjoy the site MaggieD May 2015 #94

He won't be enjoying this one. hrmjustin May 2015 #96

LOL! MaggieD May 2015 #101

You joined DU to call Hillary supporters nutty? hrmjustin May 2015 #95

They didn't specify that the scriptures equals workinclasszero May 2015 #65

The implosion is imminent. 99Forever May 2015 #89

Ye Olde Journalist? MineralMan May 2015 #2

Are they right or wrong, that is the issue. We know about 'sources' and don't need lectures about sabrina 1 May 2015 #5

Are they right or wrong about what? MineralMan May 2015 #7

This morning that poster was calling one of the only.... NCTraveler May 2015 #15

Uff da!, as my Norskie in-laws say. MineralMan May 2015 #19

As it turns out, the criticism of the source led us to go investigate the story. And it appears sabrina 1 May 2015 #138

Just found out that Hillary has publicly supported GMOs. THAT is a surprise to me. Bernie otoh, sabrina 1 May 2015 #20

OK, sabrina 1 MineralMan May 2015 #24

Responses to this OP from posters who claim their primary candidate is Bernie, not Hillary, merrily May 2015 #154

Exactly, attacks on the source always make me even more interested in the topic. As in this sabrina 1 May 2015 #160

And refuting an incorrect story is often quite easy. merrily May 2015 #161

Don't expect an answer from this member. They never respond except in an emotional way. NYC_SKP May 2015 #11

Dude...look one post above yours. #7 MineralMan May 2015 #14

Uff da! Really. Your post #7 says nothing about GMO's or HRC. Looks to me like rhett o rick May 2015 #103

Okay, I just found out that HILLARY HAS PUBLICLY support GMOs! Wow! sabrina 1 May 2015 #25

I'm in no way surprised that Hillary supports things like "suicide seeds" and ruining small farmers. NYC_SKP May 2015 #32

290,000 Indian farmers dead, that looks like a genocide, exactly what monsatan specializes in. Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #50

Very disturbing indeed, especially given how "friendly" Clinton has been with Tata and others there. NYC_SKP May 2015 #52

Your posts here just keep getting weirder and weirder. I call it the DU:GD effect Number23 May 2015 #79

Because I'm in an environmental professional field, I'm knowledgeable about Monsanto's history. NYC_SKP May 2015 #85

So sources and their obvious agendas be darned, huh? Carry on, then. I'm sure you've made Number23 May 2015 #99

The poster you replied to ... Trajan May 2015 #109

Yes, we've gone from reilgious libertarian blog to Russia Today. Quite the list. Number23 May 2015 #112

... Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #90

One more attack on the source trying desperately to deflect attention away from the issue. rhett o rick May 2015 #106

That's so cute that you feel NYC Skp needs your help. Have you abandoned Manny or are you also Number23 May 2015 #111

And once again you try to goad me instead of discussing the issues. If you support HRC why rhett o rick May 2015 #115

How can I goad you when you took it upon yourself to leap into a conversation I was having with Number23 May 2015 #117

That left a mark./NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #145

Lol, me too Rhett. No Monsanto support from Bernie. This is going to be very good for him. sabrina 1 May 2015 #135

!!! zappaman May 2015 #136

The cliques on this board are evocative of high school DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #144

Unbelievable. Just learned she has appointed a Monsanto guy to her campaign, supposedly to help sabrina 1 May 2015 #134

Like Dick Morris, Clintons don't mind hiring sleazeballs. nt NYC_SKP May 2015 #141

Here's the thing. It truly wouldn't matter to you in any way. NCTraveler May 2015 #12

Yes, he is 'establishment' and a backstabber, a reprehensible character. Who appears to say what sabrina 1 May 2015 #27

How DARE you bring up uncomfortable facts. shame. nt clarice May 2015 #42

True, facts are very inconvenient. Though not for those of us who actually care sabrina 1 May 2015 #137

True. What bugs me though is the attack methods some folks use ...... clarice May 2015 #146

Discredit the source at the link. If that fails, try to discredit the poster. merrily May 2015 #155

I'm going to say they are not just wrong, but nutz MaggieD May 2015 #69

Actually they are right about her support for GMOs. And I have to say after doing some research I sabrina 1 May 2015 #123

I think she supports starving people having food MaggieD May 2015 #125

That I hope is not going to be her excuse. You know that this is a Monsanto argument AND a proven sabrina 1 May 2015 #126

It's not proven false MaggieD May 2015 #127

Like I said, I would not be using a very familiar Monsanto false argument if you want to sabrina 1 May 2015 #129

It's from the United Nations MaggieD May 2015 #131

That's what I like about Bernie. He's free to represent the people. hardcover Jun 2015 #162

The source is no doubt full of it. However, both Iowa and southern MN are full of Monsanto signs. jwirr May 2015 #21

I'm all for GMO labeling. MineralMan May 2015 #26

Agreed and I read that Hillary did talk about it. As to labeling - I am a diabetic and I have to jwirr May 2015 #36

Your Father... Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #54

Thank you. jwirr May 2015 #57

So you are attacking the source but actually have no evidence that the story is false. rhett o rick May 2015 #40

Isn't the Washington Times owned by the Rev Moon? workinclasszero May 2015 #67

Ah yes. Shame on me. Do you think that's more important than real issues? rhett o rick May 2015 #105

Well I sure as hell am never going to use the Moonie Times workinclasszero May 2015 #120

But how do you feel about HRC supporting Monsanto and GMO's. That's the issue. nm rhett o rick May 2015 #122

Don't like that position too much but workinclasszero May 2015 #133

Trying to deflect with an issue that has zero to do with this thread is a tactic that is easy merrily May 2015 #157

So I guess you stand with Bernie against the Sandy Hook parents workinclasszero May 2015 #158

no, but thanks for confirming my prior post. Your aim is deflection and not discussion. merrily May 2015 #159

Who is Jerry Crawford? Mnpaul May 2015 #87

From the same source: sufrommich May 2015 #3

LOL! MineralMan May 2015 #6

Sounds just like every politician. LanternWaste May 2015 #78

We've established that you don't like the source, what do you think about HRC support for GMO's? nm rhett o rick May 2015 #41

I agree with her support for GMOs,as does the vast sufrommich May 2015 #70

Then why are you upset when her support is discussed? By the way do you support labeling of GMO rhett o rick May 2015 #107

If certain members here would have posted this, it would be the definition of ratfucking. NCTraveler May 2015 #8

I didn't call him establishment. I called him scummy cali May 2015 #16

Where do you see your username in my post. NCTraveler May 2015 #17

because you posed as knowing more about cali May 2015 #22

That's why you thought you were being referenced in my post. lol. NCTraveler May 2015 #30

I called him 'establishment' and I'll add 'scummy' to that from what I've learned about him. sabrina 1 May 2015 #29

That's awesome. nt. NCTraveler May 2015 #31

I'm going to start a blog, too. I'll call it "Shark Jumping in America" MineralMan May 2015 #10

The LameBrain Centrist Democrats are so far from what most people really want. truedelphi May 2015 #23

Here's the latest post from that blog: MineralMan May 2015 #28

Hillary has publicly supported GMOs. I did not know that, in fact probably wouldn't have believed it sabrina 1 May 2015 #33

HMOs are not the same thing as GMOs. KamaAina May 2015 #37

Lol, thanks. I get myu 'MOs' confused at times. Though maybe the MOs are intertwined? sabrina 1 May 2015 #38

That's what many anti-GMO activists believe. KamaAina May 2015 #66

I believe simply that I have a right to know what I am buying to put into my body. merrily May 2015 #156

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2015 #51

You just did, LOL, to try to prove yourself Right. Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #59

This isn't an OP about the blog. Seems you guys will do absolutely anything to deflect from rhett o rick May 2015 #119

Be prepared for a whole lot of deflection, attacking the source, etc. when there's no defense. NYC_SKP May 2015 #130

It's really simple. There are two sides in this class war and the billionaires that are going to try rhett o rick May 2015 #132

The actual author of this, S. A. Miller, is a right-wing MineralMan May 2015 #34

� � � � � Hillary Clinton Tied to Indian Farmers' Suicides. 290,000 of them over the last 20 years. NYC_SKP May 2015 #39

Shall we add this to the Clinton Body Count? justiceischeap May 2015 #46

IDK, But since she was US Secretary of State, she probably knew NOTHING about these Indian suicides. NYC_SKP May 2015 #49

She "knew nothing " because they're a hoax. sufrommich May 2015 #74

Tell that to the farmers who now have to buy Monsanto products in perpetuity. NYC_SKP May 2015 #76

Way to deflect. You claimed almost 300,000 indian sufrommich May 2015 #77

Indian Famer Suicides is the Haitian Man Boobs of 2016 Renew Deal May 2015 #61

Yeah. Western corporate oblitheration of indigenous farming practices is fucking hilarious. Ha Ha. NYC_SKP May 2015 #82

what do a couple hundred thousand foriegn lives matter when stock prices go up? n/t PowerToThePeople May 2015 #128

One of the things I like about DU murielm99 May 2015 #48

I was not "smearing Hillary". KamaAina May 2015 #63

If the issue is so important, then you could have found a more worthy source IMHO riversedge Aug 2015 #163

GMO Corn = Yummy! Gamecock Lefty May 2015 #55

Lots wrong with that, lots wrong with gmos Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #62

OK FlatBaroque May 2015 #93

Getting sprayed with Roundup - yummy Mnpaul May 2015 #100

Farmers are beginning to see the effects of the poison. WDIM May 2015 #113

Farmers are being poisoned by GMOs? progressoid Aug 2015 #164

This Iowa Democrat thinks she has a LOT of 'splainin' to do! n/t slumcamper May 2015 #73

Nice post KamaAina guillaumeb May 2015 #80

No, they're far-left smear sources. KamaAina May 2015 #81

I have been so blind! guillaumeb May 2015 #84

Her stance on GMO's FlatBaroque May 2015 #92

Hillary Clinton Hires Former Monsanto Lobbyist to Run Her Campaign L0oniX May 2015 #104

and don't forget Tom Vilsack Mnpaul May 2015 #116

As Iowa Governor, Tom Vilsack was a leading advocate for Monsanto. OMG L0oniX May 2015 #118

Yes! Monsanto has been destroying and poisoning farming communities WDIM May 2015 #108

LOL, flee? So says some worthless no-name blogger. Sounds like wishful thinking. tritsofme May 2015 #110

Oh, c'mon! Dem2 May 2015 #114

And you wonder how the farming community might feel about the TPP being passed there... cascadiance May 2015 #121

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OH LOOK!!!! A story that came straight out of the Rev. Moon Washington TIMES!!! MADem May 2015 #139

^ Wilms May 2015 #140

IT'S OVAH DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #142

Iowa reacted favorably to Sanders during Harkin's retirement celebration last September, too. merrily May 2015 #150