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cali

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Thu May 10, 2012, 01:56 PM

May 2012

If you're well aware of the flags, you'd know that's a honking big red flag..

And I doubt you actually know "many" narcissistic mothers. What you're describing isn't even accurate as far as red flags.

What part of don't use your kids is so difficult to grasp?

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What do you think of the cover of next issue of Time? **Image may offend** [View all] cynatnite May 2012 OP

That's one big three-year old. nt msanthrope May 2012 #1

Or, he's a short 23 year-old. leveymg May 2012 #9

lol. looks to be about 5 Liberal_in_LA May 2012 #108

I thought it was the only good actor still alive on Game of Thrones. Octafish May 2012 #145

"Milk does a body good." Gidney N Cloyd May 2012 #19

... either that or ... surrealAmerican May 2012 #141

He's a bigun... Cave_Johnson May 2012 #176

What do I think? I think that Sachin Tandulkar is a great batsman, but THE cricket god? truebrit71 May 2012 #2

Is that kid winking? NightWatcher May 2012 #3

ya... that would be two eyes wide open. and then people wonder why there is an issue seabeyond May 2012 #6

Chill out (joking). My wife's practicing attachment patenting NightWatcher May 2012 #13

The "overreacting much" comment in 1, 2... Lost-in-FL May 2012 #14

sheeeit, even before you got it posted. its a joke.... lighten up francis. nt seabeyond May 2012 #21

I thinkyou are on to something. I have often wondered if some men DO feel as if they have to CTyankee May 2012 #98

i have seen things change. when i was growing up as a kid i would run up on moms breastfeeding and seabeyond May 2012 #100

Don't let those sad creatures get you down. CTyankee May 2012 #106

i have been telling myself this since last night seabeyond May 2012 #110

Aww, it's a variant of the old saying "living well is the best revenge." CTyankee May 2012 #114

sigh... i think seabeyond May 2012 #116

Hey, that's great! CTyankee May 2012 #117

i didnt scroll down. looking at the picture, i didnt know the kid was on a chair.... seabeyond May 2012 #4

At that age, isn't that child abuse? Quantess May 2012 #5

In many hunter-gatherer cultures kids breastfeed till they are 4 or 5. Odin2005 May 2012 #17

Yes, and its a natural form of birth control as well bhikkhu May 2012 #142

natural form of birth control ... "Lasts for up to six months after giving birth" not 3 yrs seabeyond May 2012 #143

Well, there are definitely better ways bhikkhu May 2012 #161

It does. You just can't depend on it after time as an individual vanlassie May 2012 #162

That's a really ignorant view laundry_queen May 2012 #23

Could you please post a reputable study demonstrating cali May 2012 #29

Shit, I knew someone would make me dig up the studies laundry_queen May 2012 #35

so the kid being ridiculed is justifiable? cali May 2012 #37

So what you are saying laundry_queen May 2012 #42

I'm saying that in our particular culture- in which Ms. Gruman happens to dwell- cali May 2012 #48

She's in jeans and a tank top with her hair pulled back. laundry_queen May 2012 #51

yes, dear she's got a ton of make up on. and yes it's a glamor shot. cali May 2012 #55

LOL. Okay. Say that again? laundry_queen May 2012 #66

right. because I said so much about child models cali May 2012 #84

Of course you said nothing about that. laundry_queen May 2012 #97

I see nothing wrong with any family having their picture taken together cali May 2012 #105

Glamor shot?!!! Doremus May 2012 #156

I was married to a narcissist laundry_queen May 2012 #62

.... cali May 2012 #88

I grew up with a narcissistic mother laundry_queen May 2012 #99

My mother is also a narcissist underseasurveyor May 2012 #191

Okay laundry_queen May 2012 #39

yes, you should see what else you can find. cali May 2012 #43

Is that so? How? laundry_queen May 2012 #47

hahaha. laundry_queen May 2012 #49

again, my objection is not to breast feeding a 3 year old cali May 2012 #54

That's your opinion laundry_queen May 2012 #56

that depends. Is the kid cali May 2012 #61

Depends on what the protest is about. nt laundry_queen May 2012 #67

Depending on the size of the crowd, the nature of the protest HappyMe May 2012 #124

K Dettwyler is a world renown expert cultural anthropologist vanlassie May 2012 #139

Dettwyler. Biological vs cultural perspectives in clin ob and gyn 2004 vanlassie May 2012 #103

"The WHO recommends AT LEAST 2 years." Not according to the World Health Organization 4th law of robotics May 2012 #83

Well, it's changed since I breastfed my kids. laundry_queen May 2012 #94

i heard two, too. didnt do two. but that is what i was told decade and half ago. though, seabeyond May 2012 #95

Thanks. I'm pretty sure laundry_queen May 2012 #102

yes... and i remember solid at 4-6 mo recomm at around 4. isnt it interesting. seabeyond May 2012 #113

I agree 100% queen. Edim May 2012 #127

Yes, agreed. underseasurveyor May 2012 #187

I think posing that way and using your kid that way is not a good thing. cali May 2012 #7

The pic? A bit weirdbut I guess that's the point - to attract attention dmallind May 2012 #8

I think Time has lost their minds and quinnox May 2012 #10

Holy shit laundry_queen May 2012 #24

Ugh. Incredibly naive. FarLeftFist May 2012 #41

Child porn? Are you for fucking real? TransitJohn May 2012 #50

omg, child porn? Whisp May 2012 #65

Child porn? nadinbrzezinski May 2012 #77

you just jet packed over the shark. and yes i do consider breastfeeding at that age a tad odd... dionysus May 2012 #150

We get that you think that it's odd. vanlassie May 2012 #154

at that age, it's not done a lot... here. i am aware in other cultures this is more common. dionysus May 2012 #181

Not JUST in other cultures vanlassie May 2012 #193

I think it's offensive that Time, like much of the media, keeps trying to make women hate each other Brickbat May 2012 #11

while they airbrush and sexualize for the men, all wrapped in one. nt seabeyond May 2012 #15

I don't see anything wrong with it. Odin2005 May 2012 #12

whatever. none of my business either. breastfeeding use to be simply nature back in my day seabeyond May 2012 #16

I don't see anything wrong with nursing your 3 year old cali May 2012 #18

I knew many many women who did it laundry_queen May 2012 #33

so do I. cali May 2012 #57

Great post. redqueen May 2012 #69

The boy seems a little young to be in porn photo shoots. FSogol May 2012 #20

Let me be blunt: No kid over 3 in our culture needs the tit. cali May 2012 #22

Needs? Who are you to dictate what a persons "needs" are? cleanhippie May 2012 #101

You have many opinions that are radical, Cali vanlassie May 2012 #111

Sorry, but you don't know what you're talking about. Ilsa May 2012 #131

"Let me be blunt" is often a paraphrase for... LanternWaste May 2012 #198

I learn a new thing or two everyday! Lost-in-FL May 2012 #25

One thing's for sure: Ms. Jamie Lynne Grumet simply HATES all of this attention. Romulox May 2012 #26

ding, ding ding. that's my problem with this. cali May 2012 #58

Her blog crashed from the traffic, so mission accomplished Blue_Tires May 2012 #112

Same thing happened to DeGaulle when he too was featured on the cover... LanternWaste May 2012 #199

Why?? rubberducky May 2012 #27

I think that child is going to be mortified when he nears his teens Solly Mack May 2012 #28

exactly. cali May 2012 #30

There are many women who have spent a LOT of money getting pregnant, and who may only ever have SoCalDem May 2012 #31

That is if you get to the pacifier first. If its one of the older HubertHeaver May 2012 #75

I think it will sell newsstand copies of the magazine. MineralMan May 2012 #32

I don't have a problem with women breastfeeding geardaddy May 2012 #34

Little Britain - Bitty... SidDithers May 2012 #36

lol cali May 2012 #40

cmputer says noooo..... dionysus May 2012 #151

Love Matt Lucas and David Walliams... SidDithers May 2012 #157

I think that is one huge 3 year old or that is one tiny mom. jp11 May 2012 #38

I do agree with that. laundry_queen May 2012 #46

I have more of a problem with the cover than the act. The act is beautiful. Feed your child. FarLeftFist May 2012 #44

Highschool is going to be fun for this kid 4th law of robotics May 2012 #45

I think he is a bit old to be breast feeding Marrah_G May 2012 #52

My problem isn't that mom is breast feeding her 4 year old cali May 2012 #60

Well, they are certainly going to sell a HappyMe May 2012 #53

What will be interesting is if I'll see this in any of the waiting rooms in the near future madokie May 2012 #59

I breast fed my two girls until they were a year marlakay May 2012 #63

Aaaaggghhhh. Arkana May 2012 #64

It is none of my business.. Bandit May 2012 #68

It would be none of anyones business if... brendan120678 May 2012 #194

Looks rather uncomfortable to me spinbaby May 2012 #70

So, is this Time story about dining at the Olive Garden? Bruce Wayne May 2012 #71

Smoking in the other room, HappyMe May 2012 #72

Offensive? GeorgeGist May 2012 #73

The real problem with this picture is RC May 2012 #74

wow. two babies and never had an orgasm while breastfeeding seabeyond May 2012 #82

Never? 4th law of robotics May 2012 #87

i edited due to a predictably creepy reply. nt seabeyond May 2012 #89

Creepy? 4th law of robotics May 2012 #90

Good call and accurate prediction... LanternWaste May 2012 #200

The post I responded to was significantly different than 4th law of robotics May 2012 #212

how we create stories to fit. since i was adressing a poster saying women breastfeeding seabeyond May 2012 #213

I responded to what you said 4th law of robotics May 2012 #214

what a crass and bizarre reply. dionysus May 2012 #189

The post I responded to was edited post-reply 4th law of robotics May 2012 #208

ah, i see wha you mean. makes sense now. dionysus May 2012 #209

Actually, I don't know any nursing moms who experienced sexual pleasure while nursing. gkhouston May 2012 #205

I wish I was that kid... n/t zappaman May 2012 #76

Natural activity, next. nadinbrzezinski May 2012 #78

I'll gladly swap places with the kid. -..__... May 2012 #79

If you like breast milk, I suggest the Human Milk Banking Association. Not sure if you'd qualify as Blaukraut May 2012 #92

meh... sounds like he might be just the right age. nt seabeyond May 2012 #93

I don't see the problem. All three of ours gave up the nip on their own. HopeHoops May 2012 #80

I think it is awful jberryhill May 2012 #81

Why? Rex May 2012 #85

She wants cheap, instant, trainwreck celebrity... Blue_Tires May 2012 #119

Sure does seem that way. Rex May 2012 #207

It's not offensive to me. Does seem a bit AWish 4th law of robotics May 2012 #86

My only comment is that is a little unnerving at first glance. n/t RebelOne May 2012 #91

Is that kid keeping her thin? nt ileus May 2012 #96

Yep, sucking all the nutrition out of her. RC May 2012 #104

I went from 160 to 115 after 6 months of exclsuively breast feeding my son Nikia May 2012 #192

crass, sensationalist, and a shameless use of cheap sexual thrills Blue_Tires May 2012 #107

You put it well- much better than I did cali May 2012 #118

What, might I ask, is a 'regular' looking woman? HappyMe May 2012 #120

The body/face/age ranges Time editors won't put in this pose Blue_Tires May 2012 #123

Which is what, exactly? HappyMe May 2012 #126

What did you have in mind for "deviant fetish of the week"? badtoworse May 2012 #135

+10 Myrina May 2012 #183

Some Twitter responses I found funny Union Scribe May 2012 #109

What else are you supposed to do while you're waiting on line at The Olive Garden? rug May 2012 #115

Looks like she's going to be on "Today" tomorrow morning MadrasT May 2012 #121

And so it begins Blue_Tires May 2012 #122

and even the BBC picked it up this morning Blue_Tires May 2012 #169

That kid seriously needs the Gussie badtoworse May 2012 #125

I know what you mean by that vanlassie May 2012 #146

It seems like you're the only one who does. badtoworse May 2012 #158

We're well read! vanlassie May 2012 #160

A Tree Grows in Brooklyn? smirkymonkey May 2012 #174

You got it! First thing I thought of too. badtoworse May 2012 #186

From Salon - an article about the article MadrasT May 2012 #128

women are really being attacked on all fronts. since men are the controlling factor, seabeyond May 2012 #129

Interesting to see the alternate shots they rejected MadrasT May 2012 #133

yes... it is. interesting. thanks. nt seabeyond May 2012 #136

They picked the most striking "wtf" one indeed. I'd like to see them comfortable together, not uppityperson May 2012 #165

"picked the most striking "wtf" one indeed." exactly, with such a stark background. lack of seabeyond May 2012 #175

That's similar to the point I was trying to make Blue_Tires May 2012 #170

It's good Edim May 2012 #130

Agreed FedUpWithIt All May 2012 #185

I think the more right wing a person is, the more likely they are to find some reason to complain. Prometheus Bound May 2012 #132

So it begins sadbear May 2012 #134

Irrelevant rag DainBramaged May 2012 #137

So when do they start potty training? progressoid May 2012 #138

I don't find it offensive. It is a mother breastfeeding her child. Jennicut May 2012 #140

Thank you. Just to be clear... vanlassie May 2012 #147

I don't think so. it's a glamor shot. It's deliberately provocative cali May 2012 #180

This thread is proof that many "progressives" still have backward attitudes... Odin2005 May 2012 #144

Why would it be offensive? MrSlayer May 2012 #148

Exactly- and this is what provokes the reactivity- women have unduplicatable power to nurture. vanlassie May 2012 #149

Eh. Men can be very nurturing, too. randome May 2012 #152

Of course. But then not all men have a problem with a woman nursing a three or four year old vanlassie May 2012 #153

Correct. Breast feeding reminds some people that we Humans are just another animal species. RC May 2012 #182

We need an Olive Garden story now to make the sacred DU trifecta complete! tjwash May 2012 #155

Actually, she needs to have a cigarette in her hand for it to be truly complete Hippo_Tron May 2012 #163

I'm dying laughing here, all of the indignant reactions to this mag cover... countryjake May 2012 #159

I have a question... AsahinaKimi May 2012 #164

Give it time (hee hee, I made a pun)... countryjake May 2012 #166

i hear this a lot on du, i think they leave an element out of the "nipple slip". seabeyond May 2012 #179

I'll be so glad when this type of thing is not even worthy of shock anymore. FedUpWithIt All May 2012 #167

I'm with you. Duppers May 2012 #168

My mother was a beautiful woman madokie May 2012 #171

No problem w/ breastfeeding, the photo bugs me nadine_mn May 2012 #172

I'd have no problem with it IF Ship of Fools May 2012 #173

I think that poor little bastard is going to spend the rest of his life Arkana May 2012 #177

I'm not offended by the photograph varelse May 2012 #178

i nursed my children until they refused the breast barbtries May 2012 #184

That kid looks closer to five than three cherish44 May 2012 #188

i was listening to NPR talking about this today. very unattached talking about attached seabeyond May 2012 #206

Her kid, her choice bigwillq May 2012 #190

If someone is offended by this, they should get out more Major Nikon May 2012 #195

If the kid is big enough to ask for it..... lastlib May 2012 #196

Why do you care what she does? MineralMan May 2012 #197

I don't really care--I just expressed my opinion that she's... lastlib May 2012 #201

It's not as uncommon a practice as you think. MineralMan May 2012 #203

At worst, I find it merely benign. On the other hand, at best I also find it merely benign. LanternWaste May 2012 #202

rather sensationalistic and in your face shanti May 2012 #204

yeah. Even nursing moms are trashing it. Some question if she's even lactating, saying it Liberal_in_LA May 2012 #211

Camouflage pants on a three-year-old. How gauche. nt Buns_of_Fire May 2012 #210