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144. The more homogeneous the state the better Bernie's chances.

Thu May 21, 2015, 05:14 PM

May 2015

NV and CO are heterogeneous states.

I was thinking of historical parallels to Bernie's candidacy in our generation (1984-present) and which candidates occupied the same political if not ideological space as Bernie, i.e., an outsider... In 84 you had Hart, an outsider, who did quite well but he was an incredibly charismatic guy with a cowboy aura however he couldn't beat the insider Mondale because of his strength among traditional Democratic constituencies and it was probably even harder for Mondale because Jesse Jackson stripped him of a significant Democratic constituency, African Americans... The 88 race is a little fuzzy to me now... I just remember Dukakis and Jackson. In 1992 you had Tsongas running an outsider race and while he did well with elites he eventually got crushed by Clinton because of his appeal to more traditional Democratic voters... 00, the insider Gore crushes the outsider Bradley for roughly the same reasons his boss vanquished Tsongas. In O4 the insider Kerry beat the outsiders...In 08 you had a lot of insiders; Obama, Clinton, Dodd, and Richardson and Obama emerged victorious.

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87% of African Americans view Hillary Clinton favorably [View all] Cali_Democrat May 2015 OP

This is excellent news. leftofcool May 2015 #1

I am scared to post a response on here lest I get attacked. akbacchus_BC May 2015 #321

I have to wonder who Obama will vote for. NYC_SKP May 2015 #331

well Robbins May 2015 #2

No, Civil Liberties doesn't mean more to Sanders than it does to the President. Cha May 2015 #200

Holy shit! zappaman May 2015 #219

wa wa wa wa.. the Cha May 2015 #220

Aha! So THIS is the post that gay posters, women and black folks are saying almost made them Number23 May 2015 #303

let the old white man educate the woman and black man about oppression? nt seabeyond May 2015 #304

Hey, why not? They've had to teach us everything else (or so they desperately love to think)! Number23 May 2015 #305

already bookmarked. it is a gem of example and explanation and oh... ya, education. nt seabeyond May 2015 #306

That you actually wrote those words and hit "post" and haven't self deleted by now... stevenleser May 2015 #308

Name Recognition. Among any group and voters at large, it's about the name "Clinton". NYC_SKP May 2015 #3

Creative allegation... LanternWaste May 2015 #6

As you wish. NYC_SKP May 2015 #8

her overall rating is down 9 points questionseverything May 2015 #31

I need a link because your post contradicts this DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #41

I would like a link as well. OilemFirchen May 2015 #136

i added it to the comment questionseverything May 2015 #284

I am in Los Angeles DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #47

As meaningless as the game Long Drive May 2015 #84

How is it meaningless that HRC will carry African Americans and Latinos DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #91

Lakers and Clippers are meaningless Long Drive May 2015 #92

Oakland is too far away./NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #95

So blacks support her only because of name recognition and nothing more? Cali_Democrat May 2015 #15

LOL. As if. NYC_SKP May 2015 #25

I'm not sure I understad your reply Cali_Democrat May 2015 #103

Wow! Are you trying to say minorities... MaggieD May 2015 #250

No ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #267

it's bs most black voters for Obama still loved her JI7 May 2015 #52

++++DING DING DING DING DING++++ !!!! uponit7771 May 2015 #324

It's insulting. Cha May 2015 #201

name recognition... quickesst May 2015 #66

It seems a bit patronizing to suggest African Americans DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #180

Blacks look at issues also uponit7771 May 2015 #325

with regard to the African American community, I think there is a deeper reason than CTyankee May 2015 #106

Hell, for the earlier primaries and caucuses in 2008, Clinton beat Obama in the black vote Recursion May 2015 #245

YES!! It wasn't until SC that Blacks as a majority even looked at Obama... My wife was with Hillary uponit7771 May 2015 #326

Is this today's meme? That the only reason Clinton has such high favorables is because people Number23 May 2015 #111

Good point. Cha May 2015 #202

Now you're using logic on people MaggieD May 2015 #251

you really wish to swipe an entire voting block as nothing more that "stupid" and .... Sheepshank May 2015 #116

Wow. It's your brain that took you there. AA voters historically go w Democrats. NYC_SKP May 2015 #117

I honestly think you are trying to shame the wrong person Sheepshank May 2015 #128

I put that same factor down on every single demographic, every voter. NYC_SKP May 2015 #132

African Americans support Hillary in higher proportions than do women, Hispanics, pnwmom May 2015 #145

Its a real shame if anyone is trying to associate black people with weakness. NYC_SKP May 2015 #146

Only you did that in this thread DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #194

Someone needs to go back to the Dojo ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #269

Nope Skip- the "many people" you dismissed as thoughtless are POC.... bettyellen May 2015 #232

Nope. I dismiss all pro Clinton numbers as based on name recognition, all groups. NYC_SKP May 2015 #233

awesome job you're doing alienating everyone! Good luck w that' bettyellen May 2015 #244

Sorry you're geting hit by the usual suspects. U4ikLefty May 2015 #322

That is an insult to African Americans who always liked the Clintons. They aren't idiots pnwmom May 2015 #130

The pheonomenon applies equally well to every single traditional Democratic leaning demographic. NYC_SKP May 2015 #133

African Americans approve of Hillary in higher proportions pnwmom May 2015 #143

no, they've heard of George W. and Jeb Bush and that name recognition CreekDog May 2015 #259

The short answer is NO he can't. I had this very conversation last night. This is not 2008 & Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #4

Thats true. The only real threat to Hillary's pursuit of the nomination is Hillary. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2015 #252

She's up 7% from the poll I saw yesterday. misterhighwasted May 2015 #5

She also has good polling in the Hispanic community, MineralMan May 2015 #7

Agree with your post. misterhighwasted May 2015 #12

Keep up the good work in Texas. MineralMan May 2015 #14

this is what i am seeing also. especially in texas and colorado. the difference in seabeyond May 2015 #28

Have her Texas events been announced yet? DURHAM D May 2015 #53

i read something in lubbock, but sounds like just the group for her and not clinton seabeyond May 2015 #56

she could easily take on the repugs in this state. maybe not with numbers, but damn, look good. nt seabeyond May 2015 #57

I think most are unaware of how pissed off the women folk are. DURHAM D May 2015 #65

ah, see? we have cruz talking in our neighborhood. lol. how easy to address. seabeyond May 2015 #68

The reaction by everyone I encounter is DURHAM D May 2015 #70

I have only heard from my son, with peers and teachers that listen. seabeyond May 2015 #74

Agree completely. misterhighwasted May 2015 #123

As far as I know Austin is the only one announced. misterhighwasted May 2015 #99

+1. thanks. nt seabeyond May 2015 #101

+1. The Obama coalition will back Hillary. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #27

Yes, probably. MineralMan May 2015 #29

I don't doubt the passion of Sanders supporters, but McGovern had very passionate supporters as well Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #40

Frankly, so did Kucinich. MineralMan May 2015 #42

yes. true this. i forgot. nt seabeyond May 2015 #45

Same supporters. Same outcome. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #81

Could be, I suppose. Different state, though. MineralMan May 2015 #82

That's the plan and I believe she can pull it off but not without difficulty... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #61

The moment Hillary accepted Obama's invite for Sec of State, all was forgiven & forgotten. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #72

This isn't "some of my best friends are black" posts but it is... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #85

What a terrific story. Having lived in the South, with brief relocations to Pittsburgh, most of.... Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #93

He was incredible... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #102

I posted that speech a short time ago, Taheel. sheshe2 May 2015 #172

I get chills to this day she. I remember coming in to work the next day, and it was all anyone could Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #175

I agree with you 100%, Tarheel. sheshe2 May 2015 #87

I love that picture. My favorite, however, will forever be the one where they welcomed home the.... Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #90

i agree with this also. nt seabeyond May 2015 #96

ITA. In every forum in Spanish I read Hillary is already seen as the next president lunamagica May 2015 #64

Thanks for your report. MineralMan May 2015 #67

I am so relieved to hear this news. 2016 cannot go to the GOP. misterhighwasted May 2015 #125

All my hispanic friends in Texas love her. Many people have been quietly waiting for her. n/t freshwest May 2015 #239

She definitely does - at least down here in Texas. TBF May 2015 #147

John Kerry Black vote 2004... nough said uponit7771 May 2015 #327

Bookmark this post DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #9

Nice to see some.... MaggieD May 2015 #11

i see clinton getting black and hispanic vote. i see sanders, youth, white, middle upper. sanders seabeyond May 2015 #13

That's the irony... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #20

yes the irony. that i am not allowed to say. here is the thing with the young vote... in my area. seabeyond May 2015 #22

Same dynamic we had in NY State with Cuomo. geek tragedy May 2015 #26

Hillary lost the nomination in 08 because she was hemorrhaging African American votes. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #30

i also think with her experience over the last 8 yrs, we are going to see a different campaign. nt seabeyond May 2015 #33

"Working class and lower middle class folks are more concerned about table issues" workinclasszero May 2015 #49

"rainbow farting leftist independent" who will save your job and win the election. NYC_SKP May 2015 #75

SKP, do you have any support for this position okasha May 2015 #224

Right now it's Sanders. O'Malley may gain speed, it's early yet. NYC_SKP May 2015 #231

I tend to agree...The data suggests Hillary will win but it's not a slam dunk... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #76

Don't hold back now! And I agree with you! Our voice needs to be heard. n/t freshwest May 2015 #242

You nailed it all right there. Those who have been dismissed are watching it play out. It's time! freshwest May 2015 #241

I think Bernie will do well with Black Lives Matter voters betterdemsonly May 2015 #21

i will be really interested to watch blacklivesmatter. i question that. but all these are guesses, seabeyond May 2015 #24

"Black Lives Matter voters" are the black community & 87% of us favor Hillary. Just ask these guys. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #36

another thing we fail at, is actually listen to the black lives that surely do matter. seabeyond May 2015 #38

Oprah has been critical of black lives matter. betterdemsonly May 2015 #100

FYI: Issues & personality aren't mutually exclusive. And I predict you're wrong. Try, as you may, Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #114

I think there is a class divide in the black community betterdemsonly May 2015 #121

The most reliable Democratic constituency will have much to be enthused about. It's the young... Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #124

I don't view myself as having much in common with Kim Kardashian so it is hard betterdemsonly May 2015 #131

It already transferred. 87% worth. You keep insinuating that "Black Lives Matter" is some behemoth Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #138

No I am not. I just don't think OFA is the black community. betterdemsonly May 2015 #149

Why are you conflating "OFA" & "the black community"? Is there some point to that? Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #153

ok whatever betterdemsonly May 2015 #156

WTF do the 60s have to do with 87% favorability among AA's for Hillary Clinton in 2016? Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #160

It's a variation of the "MLK was a Republican"/Byrd was a Democrat and a klansman" narrative ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #170

"Curious" indeed. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #179

The President who jawboned the Civil Rights Act okasha May 2015 #229

Well ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #169

So YOU think something about groups ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #168

Say this again ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #165

Exactly. Don't you just love it when folks of another race try to explain "black folks" to us. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #173

He is offering pie in the sky except it is pie in the sky with a wrinkle...It's pie right here. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #192

+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #207

Ever see the movie "Lakeview Terrace" DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #218

Yeah ... I liked that movie ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #234

Jackson had so many great roles DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #235

Mannn ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #260

I love the scene where he first meets Django but I am afraid to post it here./NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #261

Yeah ... I know. 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #263

We can watch the end DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #264

I must admit ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #265

It's just a movie... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #270

Yep ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #271

"Where's my beautiful sister? " DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #272

Okay. That does it ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #275

People who think education is a right are after a "free lunch?" Sounds like Rush Limbaugh betterdemsonly May 2015 #276

I would tell you what you could do with your ad hominem but I don't want to afoul... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #278

you want to reflect the discussion you jumped into, with this little fit? blackman talking basic seabeyond May 2015 #279

LOL ... Seriously? ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #280

I disagree on the class divide JustAnotherGen May 2015 #155

"just asking you to proceed with caution re class being a divider in the black community." Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #162

You are correct JustAnotherGen May 2015 #164

It's like that old joke - what do you call a black man with two PhDs? Nigger. Number23 May 2015 #166

So true JustAnotherGen May 2015 #176

Exactly. You think my advanced degree and experience living in multiple countries means one damn Number23 May 2015 #181

Well we do see it and we do know it JustAnotherGen May 2015 #183

"Bygones" ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #185

Earlier in this thread someone asked about the polling numbers for ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #182

Speak on it #23! I love how you just break it down to its natural essence. "Two PhDs". N*** Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #184

Well ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #186

Class "concern" will evaporate the moment they (personally) can afford to live in that gate communit Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #190

"So many of them never wanted to be associated with us, no matter what our class." Number23 May 2015 #187

I love that gif. I'm gonna have to steal that. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #189

I haven't heard that one before. Jamaal510 May 2015 #193

There's a thousand variations of it. It's a paraphrase of a Malcolm X comment Number23 May 2015 #195

well, you heard about the Google Maps problem when you put in the words ... kwassa May 2015 #204

then there is a group of our dems that just are not concerned with that. the man has money, so what seabeyond May 2015 #206

Thank you ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #177

yes, Blacks, hispanics, and asians who vote republican usually do so because of religion JI7 May 2015 #228

This message was self-deleted by its author Quayblue May 2015 #230

Not when it comes to the police, not matter how rich blacks are harassed equally..even black cops uponit7771 May 2015 #328

I don't disagree with your numbers, but they have to morningfog May 2015 #89

She will garner over 90% of African American and Latino voters regardless of where they live... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #94

I guess the question is how much of an impact morningfog May 2015 #119

The more homogeneous the state the better Bernie's chances. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #144

Don't be so polite ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #188

What are you suggesting? morningfog May 2015 #209

I'm SAYING that ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #215

He has limited appeal to higher income LGBTs too MaggieD May 2015 #254

I, admittedly, have limited contact with higher incomed gay folks ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #262

I always enjoy talking numbers and strategy. morningfog May 2015 #212

Also the group least represented on this site BainsBane May 2015 #10

ya. i am now walking, that gay/black/women are one. that gives us greater numbers seabeyond May 2015 #16

Hispanic community leaders have declared that their votes MineralMan May 2015 #18

Statements like this are why this place is great. NCTraveler May 2015 #44

And one critical look at how African-Americans ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #107

Yep. And there were even black posters that didn't like Obama that were still run off or left Number23 May 2015 #109

+1. I don't know how many times it must be said but "DU is not the real world". Not even close. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #126

DU ain't even the same DU it was a few years ago! I'm surprised we are even allowed to type Number23 May 2015 #135

"DU ain't even the same DU it was a few years ago!" Not since the Paulertarians took over. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #140

Girl, they are flat out not even pretending anymore. There's another thread in GD right now Number23 May 2015 #142

That doesn't shock me at all; nothing I read here actually shocks me anymore. The handful of.... Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #148

I understand and I respect that 100%. For the most part, I find most of the anti-Hillary stuff Number23 May 2015 #154

It feels like a board I left where the Cons kept insisting black people voted for PBO because they freshwest May 2015 #246

And we are told that Candidate Obama ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #198

'Too inferior to even be considered Democrats.' Hard words, but it feels that way at times. n/t freshwest May 2015 #243

Very happy to hear this. hrmjustin May 2015 #17

Where were they in 2010 and 2014? We lost states where their turnout was decisive and betterdemsonly May 2015 #19

They sat at home, like so many Democrats did. MineralMan May 2015 #23

Al Franken won in wipeout which was predicted. The Hillary clones in the Southern States all lost betterdemsonly May 2015 #32

I don't think you can lay the fact... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #35

She was the incumbent, elected for the first time in 2008 with Obama on the ticket betterdemsonly May 2015 #43

Precisely... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #50

Iowa and Wisconsin were close elections with high turnouts. The dems still lost betterdemsonly May 2015 #60

There was still a substantial drop off between general and mid term participation DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #69

Exactly. It could be argued that even Elizabeth Warren owes her Senate seat to Obama's.... Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #86

I never understood ticket splitting at an emotional level./NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #105

Yes, he did. He has become a popular Senator in MN. MineralMan May 2015 #37

yes jerry brown and other dems had huge wins but turnout JI7 May 2015 #48

I am in Cali... Even Repukes call it automatic Democratic.../NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #54

yes.it's always important to consider the political makeup JI7 May 2015 #58

I believe he won with around 59% of the vote. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #71

You left off Kentucky JustAnotherGen May 2015 #152

Another day, another poll showing the vast majority of democrats love Hillary workinclasszero May 2015 #34

Not interested in the Sanders comparison. NCTraveler May 2015 #39

black support moved from Clinton to Obama after he won iowa JI7 May 2015 #46

DU rec...nt SidDithers May 2015 #51

IMO Mr Dixon May 2015 #55

sanders would be an interesting choice for clinton. nt seabeyond May 2015 #59

are you f-ing kidding Robbins May 2015 #63

IMO Mr Dixon May 2015 #83

It appears you may have missed this. Number23 May 2015 #134

Your head is in the sand if you think the President has not spoken out against police abuses. Stop Cha May 2015 #227

Everything you have said here about President Obama lovemydog May 2015 #296

Hillary will need a much younger & much more exciting VP than Bernie. Just sayin'. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #120

VP doesn't have to be met in the middle or listened to at all Why sacrifice one of our best Senators TheKentuckian May 2015 #122

Plus 1000 JustAnotherGen May 2015 #256

Good news. Scurrilous May 2015 #62

If she want to keep the AA community in her corner... Stellar May 2015 #73

i agree. nt seabeyond May 2015 #98

Sanders doesn't know much about racial issues especially Black ones. BlackClouds May 2015 #77

Bernie was in the trenches on Civil Rights, why doesn't he know about inequality issues? TheKentuckian May 2015 #127

Bernie grew up in Brooklyn. m-lekktor May 2015 #150

He organized for civil rights and attended the March on Washington BrotherIvan May 2015 #247

Few would question Bernie's position on civil rights (vis-a-vis, PoC) ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #277

Honestly, what will Hillary Clinton do for the African American community? BrotherIvan May 2015 #282

I would be the wrong person to ask .... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #289

Any numbers on Sanders and AA voters? DCBob May 2015 #78

Too soon to tell, really. And not only with AA, but with all demographics. NYC_SKP May 2015 #88

Which is interesting ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #108

He doesn't appeal to me in the slightest, and here's the major reason: Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #129

Better hope they don't remember what happened in 2008. AtomicKitten May 2015 #79

I'm sure folks will be along to "remind" us ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #112

you're welcome AtomicKitten May 2015 #137

Great news. ucrdem May 2015 #80

Thanks Cali, great news. sheshe2 May 2015 #97

K&R! JaneyVee May 2015 #104

I'se Negra and I view Clinton (mostly) favorably. I still don't know if that means she needs to be Number23 May 2015 #110

Behave! ... LOL. N/T 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #113

Ha! I might gnash but I probably won't scream. NYC_SKP May 2015 #118

Huh? You won't scream and gnash if she wins? Cali_Democrat May 2015 #139

"Clearly you need a stern talking to from Bernie's overwhelmingly white supporters." Number23 May 2015 #141

Bernie Underground? leftofcool May 2015 #151

Yep. So "underground" that an OP with 200 recs is seen as the gospel truth! Number23 May 2015 #158

And who the fuck are these "good DUers" that I supposedly "attacked" with this post??! Number23 May 2015 #236

Oh my! JustAnotherGen May 2015 #163

Five brownie points if you know what the "I'se Negra!" quote is from!! Number23 May 2015 #167

I'm thinking Halle Berry got dragged for that JustAnotherGen May 2015 #171

And of course, my girl wins Number23 May 2015 #178

See! I had my hand raised, way in the back of the classroom, 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #221

JAG got the brownies but you get the gold star! Number23 May 2015 #238

She has a lot of support outside of DU. Rex May 2015 #115

Enjoy your dream while you can. L0oniX May 2015 #157

You know who else had a dream? JaneyVee May 2015 #159

Well then I am most certainly in the best of company. great white snark May 2015 #161

Yeah, if "Huh? Oh yeah, sure." counts as a "yes". nt Bonobo May 2015 #174

Another fine example of Americans voting... peace13 May 2015 #191

And your post is a fine example of the "liberal" line of thinking that many minorities Number23 May 2015 #196

And... peace13 May 2015 #208

pretty brazen to suggest if one does not vote sanders, they are uninformed. seabeyond May 2015 #210

I did not even mention Sanders. peace13 May 2015 #214

seriously? that is your answer and you are sticking to it? maybe you do think anyone not on seabeyond May 2015 #216

Have a nice evening. peace13 May 2015 #217

right, because who should we support. Ted Cruz? BainsBane May 2015 #292

The post is about Hillary's massive support in the black community Number23 May 2015 #240

She's insulting minorities as voting against their self interests. Like they're not informed voters Cha May 2015 #248

No wiggling. peace13 May 2015 #257

We're not talking about some people but 87% of a major sub group. That's a lot... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #258

The fact that we don't really have elections anymore adds to the problem. peace13 May 2015 #266

So DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #268

Enjoy the day! peace13 May 2015 #281

And, in denial of denial. Cha May 2015 #285

And not about Sanders BainsBane May 2015 #293

They are his greatest liability. seabeyond May 2015 #300

Bullshit BainsBane May 2015 #291

Wow! "Uninformed Voters". That kind of abuse is bound to have us lining up for miles. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #298

I don't know why the Clintons have done nothing for black people. As a matter of fact they got more craigmatic May 2015 #197

Not only that but they TM99 May 2015 #205

me neither craigmatic May 2015 #283

Must you menton that inconvenient truth? InAbLuEsTaTe May 2015 #253

I see some of the Bernie folks are trying to convince the African American folks on this board ... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #199

Just a few weeks ago I was talking with a friend DURHAM D May 2015 #211

This is a small world... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #222

I think I confused you. DURHAM D May 2015 #223

I understood that.... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #226

no worse than the passive-aggressive "Bernies all white supporters" m-lekktor May 2015 #213

Simply stating the fact that Bernie's supporters are "all white" is passive aggressive? Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #249

Race should never be a monolith seveneyes May 2015 #203

Yes... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #225

I think who ever wins the nom is going to want the Obama coalition.. it's mighty and it's Cha May 2015 #237

Thank God for these democratic voters workinclasszero May 2015 #274

Exactly, and then to have posters on here saying they're voting against their interests if they're Cha May 2015 #286

Very stupid workinclasszero May 2015 #287

Precisely, workingclasszero! Cha May 2015 #288

This may be the best thread I've ever read.... MaggieD May 2015 #255

Clinton has undeniable name recognition, nostalgia appeal and star power. Orsino May 2015 #273

This is a really interesting thread. lovemydog May 2015 #290

Incredible, isn't it? BainsBane May 2015 #294

Oh ... You really think that is their aim? ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #309

oooohhhhh.. Cha May 2015 #297

+1 Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #299

Hillary just may be the third black president. bigwillq May 2015 #295

I suggest we revisit this thread in the summer of 2016 BainsBane May 2015 #301

i get it all in hypocrisy. insist i hate sanders(only supportive of him). upper middle white so not seabeyond May 2015 #302

I wonder if any of them read these threads and learn a bit. lovemydog May 2015 #307

When one is smarter than, one does not have to read ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #310

+1 lovemydog May 2015 #315

And yet here you are saying that a fantastically wealthy white woman Bonobo May 2015 #311

Nope! Go back and read through the thread ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #312

Those would be absurd statements I admit. nt Bonobo May 2015 #313

No, that is not what I am saying BainsBane May 2015 #318

"I know that the vitriol and vapid attacks on Clinton here Bonobo May 2015 #320

This message was self-deleted by its author BainsBane May 2015 #318

I don't agree with those posters. joshcryer May 2015 #329

Yes. I agree. nt BainsBane May 2015 #330

I bet you didn't complain when Bill Clinton, a Governor from a rather small state was nominated karynnj May 2015 #314

Is this ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #316

I think Blacks prefer Democrats as opposed to conservatives! akbacchus_BC May 2015 #317

John Kerry Black vote 2004... nough said uponit7771 May 2015 #323