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73. I applaud the result heartily, but not so much the process

Reply to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)

Sat May 23, 2015, 09:26 AM

May 2015

Civil rights are not something that people should get to decide on. (They could just as well later decide they don't like it so much.) One group of people shouldn't get to "decide" whether another group should have equal rights.

Rights are something that a nation confirms on its citizens: either universally or not at all. I'm not sure what the Irish Constitution consists of, but I will be happier when the US Supreme Court rules that constitutional rights are to be confirmed for everyone, straight or gay. Then it will be a principle ensconced in the nation's laws in perpetuity--a PRINCIPLE, not a decision conferred by one group onto another. That's not what rights are about.

I hope I'm being clear.

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Ireland votes YES! [View all] Are_grits_groceries May 2015 OP

Yea! Great news to hear!!!!!!!!! RKP5637 May 2015 #1

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Hey Wigx... welcome to DU. lamp_shade May 2015 #3

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I was on the jury. It was a 7-0 hide. Ah, the smell of pizza in the morning... n/t freshwest May 2015 #58

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Get over yourselves. polichick May 2015 #9

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bye bye marym625 May 2015 #7

You forgot the sarcasm thingie. Enthusiast May 2015 #11

LoL!! Major Hogwash May 2015 #13

Great news! polichick May 2015 #5

Great, fabulous, wonderful news! marym625 May 2015 #12

Irish gay marriage referendum: 'No' campaigners concede defeat muriel_volestrangler May 2015 #14

Great news! TM99 May 2015 #15

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Jesus would be ashamed of your hate. Are_grits_groceries May 2015 #20

Enjoy your stay. cwydro May 2015 #24

Oy, this guy again. NuclearDem May 2015 #27

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The voice of reason has voted. What you akbacchus_BC May 2015 #17

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Oh shut up. Are_grits_groceries May 2015 #19

yeah, dude, you're on the wrong side of history. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #21

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Why don't you and Library Girl just kiss already?! NuclearDem May 2015 #30

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Daw. NuclearDem May 2015 #38

Lol, MIRT must be working overtime today. cwydro May 2015 #41

I'm actually disappointed 47of74 May 2015 #65

My dogs like to pull the squeaker cwydro May 2015 #89

As a three term mod awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #86

I don't get it either. cwydro May 2015 #88

You are probably right... awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #91

I'm gonna have to volunteer for that cwydro May 2015 #95

Yes, you do... awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #96

Lol! cwydro May 2015 #97

I would of re-upped this term... awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #100

As you pointed out - cwydro May 2015 #103

Here: Are_grits_groceries May 2015 #39

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Indeed it wasn't. It was an "abomination." NuclearDem May 2015 #45

Seriously? Are_grits_groceries May 2015 #49

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"fun"? FUN?!!?!?!?! Warren DeMontague May 2015 #46

Can't spell fundamentalist without fun! NuclearDem May 2015 #55

That flow chart is a hoot. hifiguy May 2015 #101

Is that you Josh Duggar? cwydro May 2015 #43

Hey, as long as he's busy being an asshole on the Internet... NuclearDem May 2015 #48

Lol! Good point. cwydro May 2015 #56

BWAHAHA! n/t freshwest May 2015 #70

Dude, that's a fucking fairy tale. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #32

Wow, you folks must be mighty skeered cwydro May 2015 #33

You do realize SoCalNative May 2015 #35

Ya know. GOD decides. Are_grits_groceries May 2015 #36

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If you want to play Bible games--God is love and when you love you are like him Maeve May 2015 #50

Dude, Jesus didn't write the Epistles. NuclearDem May 2015 #51

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And you know because... NuclearDem May 2015 #54

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Dude, give it a rest. NuclearDem May 2015 #61

Gosh, it took long enough to nuke him. Or was it a swarm of trolls? Lotta posts. n/t freshwest May 2015 #71

There were at least three. cwydro May 2015 #74

Thanks! freshwest May 2015 #76

Ah the old 'Word of God' default position. Are_grits_groceries May 2015 #57

You are a Christian? Are_grits_groceries May 2015 #53

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God decides? Arugula Latte May 2015 #98

The level of decency right now for many heterosexuals Skidmore May 2015 #23

I think they are the ones who find the TV outlets glowing May 2015 #28

You forget that most of the 'yes' voter were 'normal' Maeve May 2015 #25

A great first for Ireland! Maeve May 2015 #22

Great news! cwydro May 2015 #26

Bravo, Ireland. Well done. AtomicKitten May 2015 #34

I wonder if all these Irish gay-haters in the US will change their last names now. MNBrewer May 2015 #42

Congratulations to Ireland! jopacaco May 2015 #62

AND this vote came from a referendum of the people dixiegrrrrl May 2015 #78

I'm very proud to live on this planet this morning. The Irish truly have their shit together! BlueJazz May 2015 #63

That's great news! 47of74 May 2015 #64

Woot! knowledgeispwr May 2015 #66

Great news! hrmjustin May 2015 #67

Love Ireland Thespian2 May 2015 #68

Lets hear it for the Republic! Huzzah!! paleotn May 2015 #69

I applaud the result heartily, but not so much the process frazzled May 2015 #73

It's an amendment to a section that doesn't specify anything about sex at the moment muriel_volestrangler May 2015 #77

I'm not sure I made myself clear frazzled May 2015 #80

Nice idea in theory, but in practice, 'universal' can get left up to a politicised court muriel_volestrangler May 2015 #81

Really? frazzled May 2015 #83

There's no system guaranteed to produce equal rights for all muriel_volestrangler May 2015 #84

My people! mcar May 2015 #75

Ireland is at the other end of Europe, literally & figuratively, from Russia in terms of gay rights. pampango May 2015 #79

Ireland!!!!!!! Yes!!! Pisces May 2015 #82

Kick and rec! zappaman May 2015 #87

K&R! demmiblue May 2015 #90

Great image. Eleanors38 May 2015 #94

Now that is breathtaking! sheshe2 May 2015 #104

Ireland, the first nation to legalize gay marriage! sabrina 1 May 2015 #92

Way to go Ireland! lovemydog May 2015 #93

Bravo. Good news. nm rhett o rick May 2015 #99

Excellent hifiguy May 2015 #102