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Bluenorthwest

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23. Here's a story from November that explains where this toxic thinking comes from.
Tue May 26, 2015, 05:07 PM
May 2015

Vatican Strengthens Ties with Evangelicals and Mormons Against Gay Marriage
"The presence of American evangelicals and the LDS Church was particularly notable. Rick Warren, pastor of Saddleback Church, and Russell Moore, president of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, each gave speeches, and representatives from the Heritage Foundation and the Family Research Council in Washington attended. President Henry Eyring of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints’ first presidency spoke and Elder Tom Perry of the LDS’s Quorum of the Twelve also joined. In the United States, this trio of faiths has worked together to stand against the government’s Affordable Care Act’s contraception mandate, but it was the first time they were coming together at the Vatican to talk about marriage.
Pope Francis did not spearhead the colloquium, as many casual observers might think. It was organized and led by German Cardinal Gerhard Müller, a strong conservative voice at the Pope’s Synod on the Family last month. Müller is the prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the Vatican group that sponsored the event. Still, Pope Francis gave an opening address to attendees, in which he affirmed the Church’s teaching that children have a right to a mother and a father."
http://time.com/3597245/vatican-evangelicals-mormons-gay-marriage/

It's a virulent strain of bigotry being carefully nurtured by a large segment of the mainstream faith community. Note the Vatican invited FRC, NOM, etc, Tony Perkins, Maggie Gallagher...
This is why this bullshit keeps coming up. Straight religious people are far too willing to dismiss it.

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It's really ohheckyeah May 2015 #1
I'm a native of Maryland. KamaAina May 2015 #2
LOL ohheckyeah May 2015 #16
Don't worry, McAuliffe has been burning thru pens vetoing GOP bills. FSogol May 2015 #8
It's becoming quite bad. You might remember this from a few days ago, May 21 (sorry) appalachiablue May 2015 #9
P.S. Morrissey last year pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of contributing to the appalachiablue May 2015 #12
OMG ohheckyeah May 2015 #17
That is sick on so many levels. nt awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #85
The haters are everywhere.. mountain grammy May 2015 #18
I can't ohheckyeah May 2015 #19
It is sad, especially when I read a post like NanceGreggs' mountain grammy May 2015 #21
That's a great ohheckyeah May 2015 #22
A friend, and smart, successful businessman in OR told me his health insurance went waaaaaaay down! vkkv May 2015 #28
The monthly premium is $332 ohheckyeah May 2015 #29
It is, it's epidemic, this country feeds on hatred and hostilities. n/t RKP5637 May 2015 #57
I'm not embarassed given that the legislature killed the bill in committee onenote May 2015 #46
And so sad, because it's such a beautiful state. I used to love Virginia, did a lot of hiking and RKP5637 May 2015 #56
Did you dgibby May 2015 #79
No, I didn't. I was usuallly on Old Rag Mountain and Priest Mountain. It sounds RKP5637 May 2015 #80
This article is from January 13 and is out of date Ancashina May 2015 #64
The OP admitted down thread that he neglected to check the date Rhiannon12866 May 2015 #67
Yup. Agschmid May 2015 #71
Guess he/they missed Lawrence v. Texas, elleng May 2015 #3
Right, because it worked so well for Indiana. NuclearDem May 2015 #4
wtf is wrong with some people? Why even try this? It will be nice when this is no longer an issue. uppityperson May 2015 #5
Some people thrive on persecution, prejudices and hostilities. IMO it's sexual gratification for RKP5637 May 2015 #58
Oldie but Goodie from Marv Albert Trial HockeyMom May 2015 #6
It will be vetoed? Too bad rocktivity May 2015 #7
You mean like Michelle Bachmann's husband? dhol82 May 2015 #50
Michelle Bachmann's husband AKA The Poster man-child for Gaydar! RKP5637 May 2015 #59
Freepers are grandstanding because they know it will be vetoed. immoderate May 2015 #10
They use the word gay but want to add the word black and a few others too. nt TeamPooka May 2015 #11
More Focus on the family garbage n2doc May 2015 #13
FFS -- this is a story from January that was wrong when it was published. onenote May 2015 #14
Because he forgot to check the date on the story KamaAina May 2015 #15
Thanks for the update.. mountain grammy May 2015 #20
Here's a story from November that explains where this toxic thinking comes from. Bluenorthwest May 2015 #23
I was wondering how that escaped my notice. mahatmakanejeeves May 2015 #25
Theses dominionists are like a nasty virus spreading rapidly. Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #24
Fortunately, in this case it didn't spread and the legislation died in committee onenote May 2015 #33
Thank you, good news. Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #35
Even more than that, it's mental illness now recognizable by the numbers. n/t RKP5637 May 2015 #60
That it is, RKP! Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #75
Now just how will they know that a person is gay? rock May 2015 #26
THANK you!! That was my FIRST thought!! A written test? A declaration? MADem May 2015 #42
And would the burden of proof be on the person denied service? arcane1 May 2015 #47
I'm glad it died in committee (as a DUer updating this contributed) but it's bad that it even got MADem May 2015 #48
How will the business owners know the customers are gay? Do they have a gaydar? muntrv May 2015 #27
They have the Frank Fontana Gay-O-Meter KamaAina May 2015 #36
That show was so well written that it's stood the test of time... Rhiannon12866 May 2015 #39
Alas, it's only rerun on the obscure REELZ channel. KamaAina May 2015 #40
That's such a waste! Rhiannon12866 May 2015 #43
You and me both. KamaAina May 2015 #45
Post removed Post removed May 2015 #37
What do you mean by the normal gay? hrmjustin May 2015 #41
Okay, I have to ask these two questions again... KansDem May 2015 #30
Two criteria for admittance Zambero May 2015 #31
Half of Congress would be banned from Virginia! nt valerief May 2015 #32
Can I put a sign out there that says 'No Breeders who fondle their little sisters'? LynneSin May 2015 #34
Only if you change "fondle" to "molest," in the interests of accuracy. MADem May 2015 #44
Any business that wants to use such a law should be REQUiRED to post notice of intent front&center peacebird May 2015 #38
Arrrrrrrrh shenmue May 2015 #49
How will they be detected? Tattoos on the forehead. Fuck, I'm glad I don't live in VA. n/t RKP5637 May 2015 #51
Like this would be my guess... workinclasszero May 2015 #53
That's what they seem to want! Hatred never dies and is born again. Same type of RKP5637 May 2015 #55
Set to does not mean it did, did it? Horrific the hate people have for others they do not AuntPatsy May 2015 #52
This legislation was never "set" to be enacted. It died in committee onenote May 2015 #69
Once more: the "story" is WRONG!!!! Adrahil May 2015 #54
No, the story is old. KamaAina May 2015 #66
Old and inaccurate when written onenote May 2015 #68
So Bob Marshall is behind this Bartlet May 2015 #61
This is not true... Ancashina May 2015 #62
once again, I am going to ask, "HOW IN THE HELL CAN THEY TELL???" niyad May 2015 #63
"So Virginia's not for lovers?" Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #65
Fine, I don't want their business either. Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel May 2015 #70
Oh no, not again! This is so disturbing! akbacchus_BC May 2015 #72
That's sickening and stupid.. it worked out so well for Indiana and Pence. And, yes McAuliffe will Cha May 2015 #73
These laws need to get challenged in SCOTUS ASAP. Initech May 2015 #74
He didn't have to. Lawmakers killed the bill 4 MONTHS AGO. FSogol May 2015 #77
I bet Bob Marshall is Gay. Me thinks he doth protest too much Heather MC May 2015 #76
That never even became a bill. It was axed by a subcommitte on Jan 30, 2015. n/t FSogol May 2015 #78
Why does it violate their religious views? treestar May 2015 #81
Well, actually, it's news to some, but sodomy IS a civil right. Bernardo de La Paz May 2015 #82
then you hets need to knock off your back room and nite time forays allan01 May 2015 #83
At a minimum I hope they are required to prominently post their LGBT ban NorthCarolina May 2015 #84
Why is a six month old story that has a deceptive, untrue headline still on the DU front page? Leontius May 2015 #86
Because folks like you keep kicking it. KamaAina May 2015 #87
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