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karynnj

(61,075 posts)
116. This was a thread explaining a campaign announcement
Tue May 26, 2015, 08:23 PM
May 2015

Many people wanted to hear what was said, the crowd reaction etc. Until you interjected partisan politics, there was none.

In fact, this was a moment of joy both for people who are supporting Bernie Sanders and for the community of Burlington. Bernie is a very popular former mayor -- who won his first term as an extreme long shot against an incumbent 6 term Democratic mayor. By his last term, he beat a man, who had both the Democratic and Republican lines -- by a land slide.

Many people spoke of what he did as mayor of Burlington -- and it is clear that he has a very significant legacy --- and he changed the culture of the town to make it even better than it was. The people's park that we were congregating in existed because he and others argued that the waterfront should not be sold. This was an important fight and I can't really imagine Burlington without TWO very large public parks (Battery Park and Lakefront park) with fantastic lake views. - Battery park is right next to lakeside park, but as the land makes a steep climb, from Battery Park, you see the Lake unless you go to the edge and look down. Had high rises been built where Lakefront park is, Battery Park could have lost its view as well.

As to the crowd, there were people of all ages - including a healthy portion of long term residents of Burlington, who lived through the time he was mayor. There were also many college age people - even though the 3 colleges are long past the end of spring semester.
The atmosphere was friendly - like everything I have ever gone to here is. Things like an older couple getting two Ben and Jerry's to offer to a mom there with two young kids and a baby -- that absolutely made the kids' day were typical.

You should consider that this was a party -- that some attended in person and many remotely. Everyone was invited, but no one was forced to go. Do you go to party's and try to criticize others pleasure because it is not your prefered thing?

Consider that Hillary Clinton will have her announcement. She will pick the time and place and I have no intention of criticising the place -- though she will have to look pretty hard to find a nicer place than Burlington. In addition, she will have to look pretty hard to find a place where her personal actions contributed as much to what it is as Bernie did for Burlington.

Now, the reality is the party and the media are heavily behind HRC. It will be hard for anyone to be a serious challenge to her. That said, Bernie's speech recalls pure Rockwell American values. I suspect that if Bernie really does what he says with town halls and going door to door in Iowa, NH and then other states, there is a chance that his message AND HIM AS THE MESSENGER could resonate. If it does, it will be a major triumph of democracy over money.

Before I went, I liked Bernie and I have not especially liked the Clintons for years, but I was resigned to HRC being the candidate. It may be the glow of a beautiful late afternoon/ early evening, but I am now excited in what Bernie could mean the country.

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That is great news! City Lights May 2015 #1
Looks like fun! polichick May 2015 #2
watching the span nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #3
Ben and Jerry talking about how the game isn't broken, it's rigged! Gregorian May 2015 #4
It's in Burlington VT MaggieD May 2015 #5
Post removed Post removed May 2015 #7
LOL - good pic MaggieD May 2015 #9
perfect response cali May 2015 #13
Post removed Post removed May 2015 #16
no, something else,maggs cali May 2015 #24
No. You are the turd troll. morningfog May 2015 #47
indeed. I hope no Bernie supporters act that disgustingly when HRC has her big cali May 2015 #54
I'm bookmarking this thread because you know regardless of whether that happens, we will be accused smokey nj May 2015 #60
Will the "big kickoff" be invite only? I bet it will. n/t cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #79
And no questions from the press? MissDeeds May 2015 #97
hahaha! grasswire May 2015 #86
Nah kid, you are a troll nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #58
Here ya go Nadin... Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #96
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words May 2015 #100
Maybe it's the poster's support for cluster bombs that did it? Scootaloo May 2015 #103
that and so much more. cali May 2015 #110
Oh, no! Art_from_Ark May 2015 #151
I would like to pretend it is performance art but it is not nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #113
Luv Juror #2: MaggieD is so over the top obvious a troll, I'm a little surprised she hasn't been ban L0oniX May 2015 #109
Thanks that explains the sudden nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #112
"Reality" will hit once Mrs. Clinton is forced to start talking. cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #74
She's been talking for 25 years MaggieD May 2015 #78
Something tells me the LAST 25 years of ambiguity ain't gonna cut the mustard when she gets on stage cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #89
Martin is no liberal MaggieD May 2015 #91
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words May 2015 #11
they're scared.. frylock May 2015 #23
Bingo MissDeeds May 2015 #46
+1 Go Vols May 2015 #59
LOL - I'll be scared if the polls show him beating her MaggieD May 2015 #73
Then may I suggest you 840high May 2015 #77
Post them in the Bernie group.... MaggieD May 2015 #80
This was a thread explaining a campaign announcement karynnj May 2015 #116
shitting-their-pants scared frylock May 2015 #82
Whatever gets you through the night MaggieD May 2015 #130
Looks like you're gone until mid August Capt. Obvious May 2015 #154
"I liked Bernie a lot more before I started reading DU." Scootaloo May 2015 #105
Well I have to think if he attracts so many people who will smear Democrats MaggieD May 2015 #129
You're adorable n/t Scootaloo May 2015 #138
"I liked Bernie a lot more before I started reading DU"? Which time? arcane1 May 2015 #127
My post count was reset YEARS ago MaggieD May 2015 #128
Nothing silly about it. We've seen this tactic too many times. nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2015 #140
Her polls are going down, his are going up that is the reality. Wait 'til his campaign sabrina 1 May 2015 #147
Stay classy, Hillary supporters. smokey nj May 2015 #14
As classy as Bernie supporters... MaggieD May 2015 #17
Ooh, burn smokey nj May 2015 #19
You already failed. peacebird May 2015 #32
LOL - I'm not posting made up crap about him.... MaggieD May 2015 #34
But you do admit its crap, regardless of who it was made it up. marble falls Aug 2015 #155
Evidently too hard. Fearless May 2015 #76
That one is classless and clueless. morningfog May 2015 #49
My mother taught me to be kind to the less fortunate, so I just feel sorry for her. smokey nj May 2015 #55
One of my favorite cities in the USA. MelissaB May 2015 #67
Go away. 840high May 2015 #72
Nope. Sorry. MaggieD May 2015 #75
Wow, I'm hard to convince, cwydro May 2015 #102
I'm not concerned with what.... MaggieD May 2015 #108
I haven't sent any pms to anyone, cwydro May 2015 #119
Nah, I just don't like the right wing talking point based smears MaggieD May 2015 #121
Maggie probably isn't long for this board Scootaloo May 2015 #106
Hopefully! n/t Peregrine Took May 2015 #120
I'm sure there's another in cold storage as we speak. frylock May 2015 #124
Maggie is NOT a sock puppet. She has been around for a long time. leftofcool May 2015 #132
This message was self-deleted by its author A-Schwarzenegger May 2015 #133
She admitted to being previously banned. morningfog May 2015 #135
So, call attention to it. Go ahead, alert. It won't change how most of us see things. nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2015 #141
why not? it's a wonderful, gorgeous, livable town. I know I live there. karynnj May 2015 #95
I'm just saying a crowd in your hometown MaggieD May 2015 #98
You are part of the reason TM99 May 2015 #131
This message was self-deleted by its author A-Schwarzenegger May 2015 #134
that's...... unfortunate? frylock May 2015 #136
Good! TM99 May 2015 #137
Fuck yea! And when she comes back, she'll get put in the hold again! Now, watch to see ChisolmTrailDem May 2015 #142
From Ben and Jerry (not sure which is speaking) MelissaB May 2015 #6
Beautiful lake behind Bernie - makes me want to have a swim. polichick May 2015 #8
I hope Sanders can get more media coverage for the event, and long after - on issues that matter, America agrees with Bernie. Fred Sanders May 2015 #10
He's a viable candidate, they can't ignore him for long. mountain grammy May 2015 #117
No, they can not ignore Sanders for long and there is a long way to go. What I find sad is how Fred Sanders May 2015 #118
No one that calls themselves' a Democrat can be against Bernie Sanders.. mountain grammy May 2015 #125
Now I turned to Ed, better volume nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #12
Please update for those of us without teevee. Ron Green May 2015 #15
Bernie speaking about what politics should be cali May 2015 #18
Watching too MaggieD May 2015 #21
Hillary? Solutions? smokey nj May 2015 #25
Just watch it.... MaggieD May 2015 #26
So what's Hillary's plan? smokey nj May 2015 #27
Sounds like he is parroting HRC now MaggieD May 2015 #31
Seriously? smokey nj May 2015 #35
I had to take a break... MaggieD May 2015 #39
I feel sorry for you. Really. smokey nj May 2015 #41
I feel sorry for you, too! MaggieD May 2015 #45
Save your pity for yourself, honey. You need it. smokey nj May 2015 #48
Same to you, darling! MaggieD May 2015 #50
I feel sorry for you, too! Peregrine Took May 2015 #122
They will get banned eventually....again. morningfog May 2015 #52
let me know when. cali May 2015 #85
I was wondering about that MissDeeds May 2015 #101
The account is from 2001? Agschmid May 2015 #114
Yes, with 95% of all posts by that poster being made since ChisolmTrailDem May 2015 #143
Serious trolls usually have a few socks. Marr May 2015 #153
bwahahaha. now that was funny, maggs. performance art cali May 2015 #36
Uhm. It's more like HRC is starting to parrot Bernie. The problem is Cleita May 2015 #44
Hillary's plan? Why Hillary is on a listening tour, apparently because she doesn't yet A Simple Game May 2015 #64
Hillary's people are planning on planning their plan. frylock May 2015 #69
..... smokey nj May 2015 #70
Bernie DOES explain all the time how to pay for his ideas. TheNutcracker May 2015 #29
Name her solutions please. Amaze me. 840high May 2015 #81
Right here - just for you MaggieD May 2015 #87
Bernie talkin solutions? workinclasszero May 2015 #83
I know,....doesn't he know you have to buy the office? Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #111
Mods? C'mon. Marr May 2015 #126
She got a timeout. neverforget May 2015 #139
A timeout isn't good enough. nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2015 #144
agreed. nt. neverforget May 2015 #152
After he is done, transfering tape nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #20
The part I heard hit every topic this country needs to talk about. But unfortunately Sharpton cut it jwirr May 2015 #56
Prepared remarks nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #65
I switched to c-span then. grasswire May 2015 #92
He used the word "rigged" re the economy - excellent! polichick May 2015 #22
WOW! This is it! This is exactly what America needs!` TheNutcracker May 2015 #28
And he's not reading from no babylonsister May 2015 #30
He's reading from a piece of paper MaggieD May 2015 #33
I don't care if he's reading from a matchbook, he's awesome....n/t monmouth4 May 2015 #37
Well you're definitely entitled to your opinion! MaggieD May 2015 #43
You say the word "socialist" as if it carried the taste of shit in your mouth. nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2015 #145
+1000 n/t Peregrine Took May 2015 #123
your graciousness is so wonderful. cali May 2015 #38
You're too busy in your HRC bashing threads MaggieD May 2015 #42
no. It's about not wanting to ruin the pleasure people have in celebrating cali May 2015 #51
Great! MaggieD May 2015 #61
Are you that fucking LOW DOWN serious? The best news I've heard all day is your suspension! nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2015 #146
Where ya been, Mags? babylonsister May 2015 #62
Oh sorry - I thought you were serious MaggieD May 2015 #63
wow...I'm gonna use my block function for the first time ever. SoapBox May 2015 #88
keep it up grasswire May 2015 #93
I am beginning to think THAT is the point. Hell Hath No Fury May 2015 #99
Why the hostility across the thread? Nevernose May 2015 #84
Well a few reasons.... MaggieD May 2015 #90
Those are all valid points Nevernose May 2015 #94
Vermonters did Bernie proud cali May 2015 #40
From the campaign feed on you tube nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #53
Local news reported 6,000 to 8,000. cali May 2015 #66
Thanks nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #68
"This land was made for you and me." polichick May 2015 #57
now, THAT made me tear up. nt grasswire May 2015 #107
Bernie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 840high May 2015 #71
Go Bernie !!!!! orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #104
I actually went over to MSNBC's "Big Ed" Show to Watch... KoKo May 2015 #115
And then they cut it off and went to Al Sharpton, before the speech was finished. Fortunately I was sabrina 1 May 2015 #148
Speech is on site nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #149
I have already posted it. I watched the livestream, MSM coverage was terrible, what there was. CSpan sabrina 1 May 2015 #150
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