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WillyT

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Wed May 27, 2015, 10:58 PM May 2015

In Case You Missed This... 'People Who Say They’re ‘Fiscally Conservative But Socially Liberal’... [View all]

Here are 7 things people who say they’re ‘fiscally conservative but socially liberal’ don’t understand
Greta Christina - RawStory
22 May 2015 at 09:34 ET

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Well, I’m conservative, but I’m not one of those racist, homophobic, dripping-with-hate Tea Party bigots! I’m pro-choice! I’m pro-same-sex-marriage! I’m not a racist! I just want lower taxes, and smaller government, and less government regulation of business. I’m fiscally conservative, and socially liberal.”

How many liberals and progressives have heard this? It’s ridiculously common. Hell, even David Koch of the Koch brothers has said, “I’m a conservative on economic matters and I’m a social liberal.”

And it’s wrong. W-R-O-N-G Wrong.

You can’t separate fiscal issues from social issues. They’re deeply intertwined. They affect each other. Economic issues often are social issues. And conservative fiscal policies do enormous social harm.
That’s true even for the mildest, most generous version of “fiscal conservatism” — low taxes, small government, reduced regulation, a free market. These policies perpetuate human rights abuses. They make life harder for people who already have hard lives. Even if the people supporting these policies don’t intend this, the policies are racist, sexist, classist (obviously), ableist, homophobic, transphobic, and otherwise socially retrograde. In many ways, they do more harm than so-called “social policies” that are supposedly separate from economic ones. Here are seven reasons that “fiscally conservative, socially liberal” is nonsense.

1: Poverty, and the cycle of poverty. This is the big one. Poverty is a social issue. The cycle of poverty — the ways that poverty itself makes it harder to get out of poverty, the ways that poverty can be a permanent trap lasting for generations — is a social issue, and a human rights issue.

If you’re poor, there’s about a two in three chance...

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And at the end...

If you care about marginalized people — if you care about the oppression of women, LGBT people, disabled people, African Americans and Hispanics and other people of color — you need to do more than go to same-sex weddings and listen to hip-hop. You need to support economic policies that make marginalized people’s lives better. You need to oppose economic policies that perpetuate human rights abuses and make marginalized people’s lives suck.

And that means not being a fiscal conservative.


The Rest: http://www.rawstory.com/2015/05/here-are-7-things-people-who-say-theyre-fiscally-conservative-but-socially-liberal-dont-understand/

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I think it depends on what you're being "fiscally conservative" about. MADem May 2015 #1
When I Was A School Teacher, Many Moons Ago, I Was Asked... WillyT May 2015 #2
Well, if the money went "your way" that would be helpful. It often does not. MADem May 2015 #4
You're Preaching To The Choir... WillyT May 2015 #5
I think Whitney was right. "I believe the children are our future...." MADem May 2015 #6
Me Too... And I Hate What Kids Today Are Going Through... WillyT May 2015 #8
It's a nastyass world out there. MADem May 2015 #11
Know which side of the bread your butter is on HockeyMom May 2015 #28
Excellent post, MADem. nt brer cat May 2015 #20
Thanks! MADem May 2015 #23
They're idiots MFrohike May 2015 #3
That's often the description of a plantation owner or one of their lapdogs. n/t jtuck004 May 2015 #7
K&R..... daleanime May 2015 #9
Some people define "fiscal conservative" as opposing $3.4 million turtle crossings.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #10
It has always been stupid. kenfrequed May 2015 #12
Absolutely spot on! whereisjustice May 2015 #13
the people who say they are that way olddots May 2015 #14
My in-laws are a prime example. nt. RiffRandell May 2015 #15
Thank you for posting Thekaspervote May 2015 #16
You Are Quite Welcome !!! WillyT May 2015 #17
Except labels are just labels. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #18
Thanks, missed it the first time dreamnightwind May 2015 #19
Great Analogy !!! - Wonderful !!! WillyT May 2015 #24
A better term is "non religious conservatives" quaker bill May 2015 #21
How many people at DU have said they're fiscally conservative? gollygee May 2015 #22
It depends how you define "fiscally conservative" Martin Eden May 2015 #27
The Republican Party is NOT fiscally conservative Martin Eden May 2015 #25
Thank you, thank you, thank you for posting this..........I couldn't say it with such perfection.... a kennedy May 2015 #26
My thoughts exactly!! freeplessinseattle May 2015 #30
I always find these people vote for people like Reagan and W who were fiscally disasters. Johonny May 2015 #29
Kick !!! WillyT May 2015 #31
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