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HereSince1628

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Fri May 11, 2012, 08:15 AM May 2012

I’ve read much on the heroics of confronting bulliess recently, that too has a dark side… [View all]

My family name sounds like a summer dessert fruit, my siblings and I took a lot of petty name calling about it and learned an inordinate number of adjectives and adverbs that rhymed with it. We were taught to ignore such name calling.

My brother also had carrot red-hair and an inability to sit still in class. It regularly got him tossed into the 1st grade coat room of the old grade school where there wasn’t much opportunity for learning. His 1st year was a progressive descent into being ‘the class dummy’ that others picked on and he failed the grade.
He was marked as a target for physical bullying. It lasted for years. During which my parents regularly berated me for not protecting him. I was taught to confront bullying, and I did.

So one fine Saturday morning in May, the bullies who lived a couple blocks away came onto the dead-end street grabbed my brother and dragged him into the doorway of a dairy.

I heard him shout and went running for him. I found him held down by a boy sitting on him and punching him while the rest of the gang jeered and kicked at him. I straight away tackled and rolled the kid on top of my brother. I jumped up before he did and with all the might my 85 lb 5th grade body could muster I kicked him hard in the side.

He quit fighting and doubled up. His buddies then beat the ever-living crap out of me.

Someone in the dairy had call the cops. They showed up. Everyone scattered--except for me, now also on the ground, and the bully I had kicked. He was rolling in agony and couldn’t sit. I shouted at the police that the cowardly M***** F***** got what he deserved for beating on my brother.

It was not received well by the men in blue.

The cops stuffed me into the back of their black and white, an ambulance took the bully away. I took a ride downtown for the inevitable chat between my parents and ‘the authorities’… I don’t remember much about that other than sitting on a wooden bench in front of a wooden railing behind which was an enormous desk…

I remember returning to school the next week. No one would talk to me. In fact, no one would come near me.

A teacher whose class I’d been in several years earlier told me to go to the Principal’s Office. There was a woman there waiting to take me home. Turned out that I was expelled for the rest of the year.
I had broken a couple of the bully’s ribs and ruptured his spleen which had to be removed in emergency surgery.

I was officially more dangerous than the bully, I was in the phraseology of the day, “a juvenile delinquent.”

Bottom line...there's no certain good outcome to standing up to bullies and fighting them. It's not always going to be seen as heroic, it's usually going to be seen as violent.


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Wow. Thank you for telling that. mac56 May 2012 #1
No guarantees in life... Cave_Johnson May 2012 #7
Off campus should have out of bounds for the school ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #2
I jumped a man that was physically abusing a woman, got her free, Zorra May 2012 #3
A good self-defense class could teach you the proper way to act when the police show up slackmaster May 2012 #4
That sucks. You did the best you could. There are other ways Iris May 2012 #5
You did not do anything wrong. nt Deep13 May 2012 #6
I just wrote something like this on another thread. "Fighting back" these days means expulsion riderinthestorm May 2012 #8
That's why you don't fight back AT SCHOOL slackmaster May 2012 #15
The consequences of fighting back away from school could be even worse. JDPriestly May 2012 #28
+1000000 nt riderinthestorm May 2012 #39
Sometimes the path of least resistance is to communicate effectively with a bully's parents slackmaster May 2012 #44
So, what's your position? To 'take it'? I have self respect. Edweird May 2012 #9
My position is that there isn't a single outcome to confronting bullies. HereSince1628 May 2012 #12
Ok, but what happens when you DON'T confront them? Edweird May 2012 #13
I'm not sure you can be certain of an outcome there, either... HereSince1628 May 2012 #21
Your case, BTW, is EXACTLY why I support 'stand your ground' type laws. Edweird May 2012 #29
Too often, the person with the gun IS the bully. JDPriestly May 2012 #32
Who is 'the person with the gun'? Police? Military? Citizens? Edweird May 2012 #33
I think the point is that unintended consequences are a fact of life. mac56 May 2012 #23
Yep, shit happens. Edweird May 2012 #30
I think we agree, basically. mac56 May 2012 #34
In my view, bullying should be handled in one of two ways. JDPriestly May 2012 #31
I am intimately familiar with the mechanics of bullying - I was the 'weird kid'. Edweird May 2012 #35
All true. But what is also true is that bullies mostly pick on safe JDPriestly May 2012 #48
Non-violent communication against a bully? Are you serious? backscatter712 May 2012 #53
Non-violent communication is not about hugs, JDPriestly May 2012 #56
This. daaron May 2012 #16
There was an older girl, big for her age, who LuvNewcastle May 2012 #10
And that's the bottom line - "when parents don't get involved..." Iris May 2012 #11
When adults abdicate their responsibility for teaching and enforcing tblue37 May 2012 #27
Indeed. Happens here at DU too. nt patrice May 2012 #14
this is a place where good parenting should be helpful Voice for Peace May 2012 #17
There is a saying in NYC: "No good deed goes unpunished" KurtNYC May 2012 #18
+1000 mac56 May 2012 #24
It is true that there are other ways of confronting bullies varelse May 2012 #19
Yes, it went on for my brother. HereSince1628 May 2012 #45
Hey, I still dont see how you did the wrong thing Muskypundit May 2012 #20
I'll bet they certainly continued bullying. They simply picked another target. nt riderinthestorm May 2012 #40
Here's a question: Did the bully beat on your brother again? aikoaiko May 2012 #22
The group that was involved in bullying my brother continued at him HereSince1628 May 2012 #38
I'm sorry to hear that, but did the one you beat on continue to bully your brother? aikoaiko May 2012 #46
That's not the dark side. tcaudilllg May 2012 #25
I see it as dark. A kid of 8 maybe 9 ended up with a life threatening injury HereSince1628 May 2012 #42
Well I have a bully story too. zeemike May 2012 #26
You can kill someone with a hard strike to any part of the head. stevenleser May 2012 #49
And you can kill people with words too zeemike May 2012 #54
You dont have to tell me. I was also bullied. stevenleser May 2012 #55
There was a bigger kid who would bully me and my friends 40 years ago ... my friends still talk JoePhilly May 2012 #36
This is a tough one... Red State Prisoner May 2012 #37
I finally fought back against my bully after years of abuse TrogL May 2012 #41
Thank you. nt redqueen May 2012 #43
I had a similar experience in 5th grade (no police though). Dawson Leery May 2012 #47
I found myself wishing that the statute of limitations had not passed and you could sue stevenleser May 2012 #50
I was way out beyond the wierd kid... loose wheel May 2012 #51
One person looked up to you that day I imagine Generic Other May 2012 #52
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